Israel, Hamas making headway in ceasefire talks (www.nzherald.co.nz)
from philo@discuss.online to world@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 2024 22:07
https://discuss.online/post/5167678

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philo@discuss.online on 13 Feb 2024 22:23 next collapse

Whoever downvoted this, is it because you want the fighting to go on?

theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me on 14 Feb 2024 06:20 next collapse

No, you’re just insufferable.

philo@discuss.online on 14 Feb 2024 10:26 collapse

so you admit to manipulating the voting system?

theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me on 14 Feb 2024 12:25 collapse

Lol, it’s not just me downvoting you, pal.

Edit: lmao

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jordanlund@lemmy.world on 14 Feb 2024 13:33 collapse

Downvotes are publicly visible, it’s not a conspiracy, it’s mathematics.

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Feb 2024 06:33 collapse

Who need a chill pill brother.

Arete@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 2024 22:47 collapse

Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It’s not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.

philo@discuss.online on 13 Feb 2024 22:52 next collapse

You don’t want a ceasefire?

Arete@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 2024 22:57 next collapse

I didn’t state any opinion at all. I only discussed what seems politically possible right now.

philo@discuss.online on 13 Feb 2024 22:59 collapse

The article says they are making headway, which contradicts your post outright.

Arete@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 2024 23:04 collapse

… I’m stating my reasoning for disagreeing with the article. What I wrote is my opinion, which isn’t something an article can contradict.

philo@discuss.online on 13 Feb 2024 23:07 collapse

Your reasoning needs work, it is more cynical than reasoning.

Arete@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 2024 23:15 collapse

Ok so that was where you should have picked a step in my reasoning that you disagree with and explained why.

philo@discuss.online on 13 Feb 2024 23:17 collapse

No , that is in a debate and that is if you used reason. There have been other ceasefires between Hamas and Israel. No reply is necessary.

otp@sh.itjust.works on 14 Feb 2024 12:52 collapse

No reply is necessary.

You really should’ve taken your own advice

PoastRotato@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 2024 23:34 collapse

“This thing seems to be true.”

“Actually, this thing doesn’t seem to be true, and here’s why.”

“So you don’t want this thing to be true, then??”

Maybe now you can see how ridiculous you sound here.

Cinner@lemmy.world on 14 Feb 2024 08:47 collapse

You do understand a ceasefire is temporary? It’s not an end. It’s temporary peaceful time so the starving can be fed and the wounded cared for.

Arete@lemmy.world on 14 Feb 2024 14:28 collapse

I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.

Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don’t see any path forward here.