Putin says China is Russia's ally, backs its stance on Taiwan (www.reuters.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 00:28
https://lemmy.world/post/21756464

Summary

Russian President Vladimir Putin reinforced Russia’s support for China, backing Beijing’s claims over Taiwan and downplaying concerns about Sino-Russian cooperation.

At the Valdai forum, Putin stated that Russia views China as an ally with a “reasonable” policy on Taiwan, accusing Taiwan of provoking a Ukraine-style crisis in Asia.

He highlighted the strong trade and security ties between Russia and China, asserting that joint military exercises between the two nations are defensive and comparable to U.S.-Japan drills, and pose no threat to other countries.

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PugJesus@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 00:42 next collapse

Wow, I’m sure this announcement coming right after his puppet was elected to the US presidency is just a coincidence.

reddig33@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:09 collapse

See also Elon Musk pulling out of Taiwan.

www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/…/2003826435

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:14 collapse

If the US under the Trump/Musk regime supports China’s invasion of Taiwan, will all the tankies suddenly decide American imperialism is Worthy Of Critical Support, Actually?

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Nov 2024 13:36 collapse

It’ll finally answer the age old question:

Is their ideology primarily driven by being pro-Russia/China or is it primarily driven by being anti-America?

Or since they seem to not mind getting Trump elected, and support capitalist dictatorships, is it simply pro-authoritarianism?

Enkers@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 01:32 next collapse

Isn’t this a bit of a predicament for Trump? Traditionally the US has supported Taiwan’s independence, and it seems to me that’d be continued under Trump’s “China bad” rhetoric/policy. However, getting chummy with Putin might require rescinding support for Taiwan’s independence.

Am I missing something here?

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 01:36 next collapse

Traditionally the US

There’s your mistake. Trump doesn’t give a fuck about what the US traditionally does, and neither do his supporters. Same as Trump being blatantly pro-Russia despite the US, and the US right in particular, traditionally being anti-Russia.

They don’t give a fuck if they’ve always been at war with Eurasia or Eastasia. All they care about is having the proles crushed beneath them, and whatever Big Brother figure promises them that, they’ll gleefully bootlick for.

Enkers@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 01:54 collapse

Yeah, sure, he doesn’t care about tradition, I get that. But it also seems to me Trump has always been fairly anti-China. Ofc he’s also plenty happy to misrepresent his intent if it makes his base happy, so maybe that part was just a facade?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 08 Nov 2024 02:23 collapse

www.google.com/search?q=trump love china

Take your pick of instance of him expressing his love for Xi and China.

Now, he did set some trade tariffs on Chinese goods, but that’s all. Otherwise, it’s all fellatio.

Enkers@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 03:06 collapse

Good point. Guess it just indicates how unpredictable he is. Just like how he said he’d build a wall, then built a little chunk of wall. It’s all about doing the minimum possible to placate his base.

I’m just here trying to get a grasp on what the actual implications of his presidency are going to be. :/

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 02:20 next collapse

Trump will fuck Taiwan because that’s what the boss wants.

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yeahiknow3@lemmings.world on 08 Nov 2024 05:59 next collapse

This comment is such a blatant lie that I’m going to assume it’s disinformation.

wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:06 collapse

Prove me wrong

yeahiknow3@lemmings.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:07 collapse

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wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:11 collapse

That is not proof. It is also a cropped photo. The uncropped version shows Tiananmen Square at the top but it doesn’t show what your propagandists want it to show. I’ll post it for you when I get home.

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barsoap@lemm.ee on 09 Nov 2024 03:58 collapse

The majority of Taiwanese don’t want the status quo, but prefer kicking the can down the road over the autonomous mainland provinces throwing a fit.

Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc on 08 Nov 2024 06:06 next collapse

I wonder when they will fight each other. As the chinese idiom goes: two tigers cannot hide in the same mountain, with two egocentric leader going so close together, when their perceived threats is not there they will start stepping on each other’s tail.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 12:48 next collapse

Funny, I said in another thread that I think Trump isn’t going to start WWIII, he is going to create Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

Looks like I could be right.

Voyajer@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 13:37 next collapse

Right on cue

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 14:07 next collapse

I wonder how much Trump is going to sell the Seventh Fleet for. I’m sure it will be the best deal ever, right?

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 18:20 collapse

China’s 100% gonna shoot their shot at invading Taiwan in the next few years

foggy@lemmy.world on 09 Nov 2024 03:48 next collapse

Been saying it for over a year now. My prediction was sometime between January 1 of 2024 and January 1 2030 at the absolute latest.

It will be the flashpoint of WWIII

Badeendje@lemmy.world on 10 Nov 2024 00:34 collapse

The US military predicts april or October 2027 or 2028 as several things coalesce.

The month is determined by the weather in the Taiwan strait The year because china ordered it’s military to be ready to take Taiwan by force in 2027. But October 2028 means the US should be either in chaos due to an upcoming election, or because there will not be an election.

So if I would have to bet, it’s Oct 2028. Unless the maga party shits the bed real bad before then… they might open an Oct 2027 or April 2028 window.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 10 Nov 2024 04:24 collapse

Yeah, after Tuesday, I think that’s a pretty shrewd estimate tbh