If the rest of the civilized world is failing to put pressure on the US, maybe we are reliant upon China now. In this scenario the enemy of an enemy is indeed a friend.
Eldritch@piefed.world
on 09 Apr 12:26
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China just executed a number of Canadians. Don’t rely on large immovable hierarchies of power to deliver anything resembling justice.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Apr 22:17
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What I’m saying is you can’t un-kill someone, everything else up to that point is a lot more reversible if that does end up coming into question. Now I’m not saying the whole experience isn’t going to leave its mark but there’s literally no going back once you’ve made someone dead. It’s one of the bigger issues behind the ethics of the death penalty.
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
on 09 Apr 22:23
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While that is a point that can be made, if you’re bringing into question the validity of the judgement of a state you have bigger problems that need to be addressed first; because it is not more ethical to torture someone that knows they’re innocent for decades in hopes a less corrupt society magically develops to save them.
Absolutely false. Hilarious. To the very best of my knowledge my country has never attempted to colonise anywhere (edit: nor has it ever allowed slavery).
You keep digging that hilarious hole though. Grasp at those straws! Defend the death penalty for drugs offences! I’m sure your favourite authoritarian government loves you for it.
It came up in the new feed on the fediverse a lot recently. But I think it got regularly buried by the people who defend and glaze China constantly. Yes they were accused of drug crimes. The death penalty isn’t a deterrent. As long as the underpinning social problems exist, someone will always rush to refill the gap. Not to mention China’s courts are as corrupt and big a joke as any in the west. Rehabilitation would have been the correct answer. Barring that, China could have just stripped them of citizenship and denied them re-entry. Turning them over to Canada as Canada wanted.
Well… if you risk a crime punishable by death somewhere you can’t really be surprised that you’ll die if you get caught. I for one am grateful to live in a country that doesn’t have the capital punishment. But even here gettting caught trafficking drugs would land you in jail for a long time.
I technically agree with you but that’s not remotely the point. I’m against the death sentence in totality myself. I think even the petite bourgeoisie would be better handled by hard labor than death. And that the only acceptable time to kill is in actual self-defense. The death penalty for drug crimes is especially stupid. And so are unforced errors like not just sending them have to be another country’s problem and not yours.
When killing becomes an acceptable solution it also becomes the easy solution and the regular solution. Which should be the opposite of what a just Society goes for.
I’m also against the death penalty, if my previous message didn’t made that clear. Also the war on drugs is very very stupid… so much money, time and lives wasted fighting windmills.
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If the rest of the civilized world is failing to put pressure on the US, maybe we are reliant upon China now. In this scenario the enemy of an enemy is indeed a friend.
China just executed a number of Canadians. Don’t rely on large immovable hierarchies of power to deliver anything resembling justice.
Got any sources? This one says you’re wrong.
You mean the death penalty that they don’t have anymore?
Prison is objectively more reversible too.
What I’m saying is you can’t un-kill someone, everything else up to that point is a lot more reversible if that does end up coming into question. Now I’m not saying the whole experience isn’t going to leave its mark but there’s literally no going back once you’ve made someone dead. It’s one of the bigger issues behind the ethics of the death penalty.
While that is a point that can be made, if you’re bringing into question the validity of the judgement of a state you have bigger problems that need to be addressed first; because it is not more ethical to torture someone that knows they’re innocent for decades in hopes a less corrupt society magically develops to save them.
You just keep licking those murderous boots. Slurp slurp.
en.wikipedia.org/…/Capital_punishment_in_Canada
There is no death penalty in Canada (edit : and hasn’t been for over 60 years). What a week assed argument. Hahaha.
Just listen to yourself defending the death penalty for your favourite authoritarian government. I’m rolling around here. Hahahaha.
I think you’re mistaking me for someone Canadian or American or something.
I just don’t like the death penalty and there isn’t one where I live.
You keep defending that death penalty for drugs related crimes though because you don’t want to criticise your favourite authoritarian government.
I’m out now o/
Absolutely false. Hilarious. To the very best of my knowledge my country has never attempted to colonise anywhere (edit: nor has it ever allowed slavery).
You keep digging that hilarious hole though. Grasp at those straws! Defend the death penalty for drugs offences! I’m sure your favourite authoritarian government loves you for it.
Or, you know, a nation that was colonised.
Keep ignoring your death penalty for drugs offences cheering through any ridiculous argument you can drag out of your ass though. You’re nailing it.
Edit: and I just want to add … Blaming people for the sins of their forefathers is bullshit. So is the death penalty.
I’m not aware of this, could you please share a source?
Sure
https://thewalrus.ca/canadians-killed-in-china/
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/20/nx-s1-5334313/china-canada-executions
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c204ywyl4kvo
It came up in the new feed on the fediverse a lot recently. But I think it got regularly buried by the people who defend and glaze China constantly. Yes they were accused of drug crimes. The death penalty isn’t a deterrent. As long as the underpinning social problems exist, someone will always rush to refill the gap. Not to mention China’s courts are as corrupt and big a joke as any in the west. Rehabilitation would have been the correct answer. Barring that, China could have just stripped them of citizenship and denied them re-entry. Turning them over to Canada as Canada wanted.
Well… if you risk a crime punishable by death somewhere you can’t really be surprised that you’ll die if you get caught. I for one am grateful to live in a country that doesn’t have the capital punishment. But even here gettting caught trafficking drugs would land you in jail for a long time.
I technically agree with you but that’s not remotely the point. I’m against the death sentence in totality myself. I think even the petite bourgeoisie would be better handled by hard labor than death. And that the only acceptable time to kill is in actual self-defense. The death penalty for drug crimes is especially stupid. And so are unforced errors like not just sending them have to be another country’s problem and not yours.
When killing becomes an acceptable solution it also becomes the easy solution and the regular solution. Which should be the opposite of what a just Society goes for.
I’m also against the death penalty, if my previous message didn’t made that clear. Also the war on drugs is very very stupid… so much money, time and lives wasted fighting windmills.
Absolutely.
Because we’re looking at stopping far worse from the US. There are less bad routes to progress.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Those in the west unironically said the same things.
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy
So… autodefenestration has come to the US.