What do you mean? There’s a whole generation of Yemeni children afraid of Sunny days because those are the days that people die. I’m a place that gets 300+ days of sunshine a year.
It’s not a genocide. Not defending what we’ve done, but I don’t think it’s fair to compare to genocide
jet@hackertalks.com
on 04 Apr 2024 04:56
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It’s 100% comparable. We’re talking about collateral budgets for strikes. That’s exactly what happened in both of these scenarios.
It just so happens they have different budgets, but they both had allowances for allowing innocent people to be killed alongside potential targets. On one hand it’s plus one two three maybe even five allowable collateral on a target. On the other hand it’s 100. But it’s the same thing
Plus one two three…?! I’d laugh if I didn’t know we were talking about innocent lives lost, and far more than +3. Or are you seriously going to tell me that 28k civilian casualties per year in Afghanistan didn’t happen. And USA was there for 6 years. IRAQ am too afraid to look up.
I’m not omniscient I don’t know everything that happened. But I do know the published ROE included a collateral budget for different strikes of one to two. 3 to 5 with extra approval for at least one theater of operation that I’m aware of
And for others it was decided it was within rules of engagement and washed their hands. Here’s a video from when USA killed those two Reuters reporters. Just skip to 17:05 and see the the casualty report from ground troops. Killed 11 civilians, one small child (in reality there were two)… for what? But this case was thrown out as “they acted within rules of engagement”. It’s just a shit excuse so no one is to be blamed when innocent people die and this video here shows just how frivolously they shot. One of the soldiers drove over a dead body and started laughing. Other guy said “well it’s their problem bringing child to a combat” when it’s them who engaged random group of people on the street.
I’m not sure I follow your argument. Yes it’s a terrible thing. Collateral damage should not be the cost of war. Especially when we’re fighting an asymmetric war. The occupying force should have stricter rules of engagement, no collateral allowed. They are after all the dominant occupying force
This entire discussion started when somebody compared US rules of engagement towards the current Israeli rules of engagement. Is the genocide terrible Yes absolutely. It is comparable however, to previous US military engagements. This is not to absolve the guilt of the current actions, but to castigate the previous actions
Argument is that I am not convinced what Israel is doing is genocide and it’s completely comparable to what USA and other countries did when it was also not called genocide. Collateral casualties are sad, but no war is without them. Whether war is bad or not is not ever arguable, but people can’t agree on Coke vs. Pepsi, let alone religion or other subjects so there will always be wars.
mwguy@infosec.pub
on 04 Apr 2024 07:03
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I would fully disagree. We targeted civilians, not in war zones at functions like weddings, funerals and other explicitly civilian gatherings. We (the US) had the intent to kill civilians, and our tolerances for civilian casualties were an order of magnitude larger than what the IDF is using.
If anything it’s not comparable because what we did was worse.
Thank you for knowing history and at least trying to educate others from it. People here are so willing to bend definitions and ignore events that were far worse just so it can fit their narrative.
MeanEYE@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 07:47
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How can you bend definition of genocide so much as to excuse yourself but blame Israel at the same time. Here’s a refresher for you.
All the starving people in Yemen would disagree with the not genocide comment. Like in Palestine, a religious nationalist is committing atrocities with full US support.
superfes@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 00:22
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“Error prone” is a funny way to say “Working as designed”
rockSlayer@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 01:14
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I see, so we’re just believing that it’s “faulty AI” rather than deliberate decisions? When it comes to war crimes, it’s not the fault of the AI.
Altofaltception@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 01:21
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You can’t prosecute an AI. - Israel probably
xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com
on 04 Apr 2024 02:00
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IDF: “Where is hamas?”
Chatgpt: “I don’t have knowledge of specific events or developments that occurred after my knowledge cutoff date of January 2022.”
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 08:08
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The original article had some really damning lines. Israel is beyond barbaric they try to bomb suspects inside of their family homes instead of trying to target active combatants
“We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity,” A., an intelligence officer, told +972 and Local Call. “On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.”
Killing as many civilians as possible is modus operandi for israelis.
MeanEYE@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 12:45
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No. That’s not killing “as many as possible”. That’s accepting civilians around the official to be killed. If anything it’s extremely targeted attack. Killing as many as possible would be carpet bombing the whole thing and calling it a day.
febra@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 12:58
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Still a war crime.
jorp@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 16:57
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fucking bootlickers man, what makes a person such a fascist apologist
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Apr 2024 17:10
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Images after bombing, the area was essentially carpet bombed. There have been thousands of more bombs dropped since this article. The IDF wouldn’t function without western support. This is plausable deniability, they can kill substantial numbers of people and blame it on this system or ‘collateral damage’. They have to maintain an image at least somewhat. So they kill as many as they can get away with.
The Israeli state has made it clear for years they don’t believe in the long-term existance of Palestine. This is part of their project to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible to more easily take territory.
If they can track them then they can wait. This is the definition of a proportionate force war crime.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 04 Apr 2024 18:25
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Killing as many as possible is very untrue. If the aim was to kill everyone, the conflict would have been over within a week and 2 million people would be dead.
Israel has tolerances how many civilians can be killed for one Hamas member. Issue is that I don’t believe that 100 lives are worth for a single unimportant terrorist. That’s worth condemning.
Also, targeting homes should be the last resort if nothing else is possible. Not the first option. This is worth condemning, as well.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 19:22
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They want to make life as cruel and horrible as possible for everyone in Gaza. Also their goal is to kill as many as possible while having people defend them for “not targeting civilians”.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 04 Apr 2024 20:34
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Rather it seems to me they don’t really care. They just want to get the job done while testing how far can they go. And they know they can go very far because otherwise west would lose a close ally in mideast.
And it’s quite sad because despite the fact that Israel has the right to defend itself, it should not have a right to do what it is currently doing.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 04 Apr 2024 21:21
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As an occupier israel does not have the right to defend itself.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 05:00
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Israel has the right to defend itself like every country. It does not occupy Palestinian territories, just undisputed ones (which is also illegal).
In terms of Gaza, they withdrew in 2005.
So whilst starting the war against Hamas was fully understandable, it has to be done in accordance with the international law. And Israel fails to do that.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 06:15
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Israel has blockade Gaza since 2000s. They are an occupier. And Gaza has the right to defend itself and this barbaric occupier.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 06:17
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No, they left Gaza in 2005.
There are 0 Israelis in Gaza. The only thing Gaza can defend against is Hamas.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 06:52
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Strange i recall there being a giant fence around Gaza and israel controlling everything that goes in and out. Maybe I’ve read a few too many Human Rights Organisation reports.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 06:55
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It’s pretty understandable that there is a fence. Also, Israel does not have all borders and even allows millions of dollars to get in.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 06:56
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Strange you justify worlds largest concentration camp where israel systematically murders and starves innocent civilians.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 08:02
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Have you ever been to a concentration camp?
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 08:07
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Have you ever been to one? Have you learned anything about the Holocaust? It seems not.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 08:11
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I have visited several ones - Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sereď (work camp).
If you visited one, you would know the comparison is absurd.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 08:13
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Wow that’s really cool.
If only you opened your eyes and learned anything during your visit.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 08:45
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I learnt a lot, for example, I know how a concentration camps look and don’t draw comparisons between incomparable.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 09:05
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You have learned nothing and should be ashamed.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 09:30
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Ad hominem is usually used when someone lacks a factual argument, so they just attack the person.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 09:34
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theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 10:08
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It’s horrible but it’s still far from a concentration camp.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 10:12
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I’ve read a lot of stories of Jews surviving concentration camps, you must think they weren’t all that bad either.
The amount of children being killed each day in Gaza matches that of a concentration camp.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 10:16
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Compare size of Gaza to the size of a concentration camp.
Edit: The number of people killed is also not the best metric because it does not take into consideration the brutality.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 10:19
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The brutality of israel is indeed at the same level of those of the Nazi’s. Shooting desperate people for food. Starving people to death. Mass bombing families at night.
When we look at brutality this is directly comparable to the Holocaust and israel is comparable to the Nazi’s
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 10:23
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Not at all.
Is israel:
a) changing people’s eye color by injecting a needle to their eyes?
b) stitching together twins?
c) using hungry dogs to eat people while alive?
d) doing useless surgeries on healthy people without anesthesia?
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 10:28
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Yes israel is systematically blocking anesthetics and bombing children, having them undergo amputations without anesthetics and sufficient medical equipment.
Yes they have let dogs eat people at Shifa recently and even more recently this video of israel shooting a Palestinian trying to collect food and then having dogs eat him
The doctor, at the field hospital set up at the Sde Teiman Detention Camp in the Negev desert, said Palestinian detainees face deplorable conditions and violations at the facility.
“Just this week, two prisoners had their legs amputated due to injuries from leg irons, which unfortunately is a routine event,” he said in a letter to the defence and health ministers and the attorney general cited by Haaretz.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 10:29
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Yes, so it’s not comparable.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 10:31
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It is sad that you are this much in denial of reality. You have been linked evidence.
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 11:07
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Yes, evidence that is by far not as brutal.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 12:11
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“Israel has a right to self defense”
“Yes israel is running a concentration camp but the Nazi’s were more brutal!”
Crazy how that works
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 13:08
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It doesn’t have a concentration camp and it has right to defend.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 13:11
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Oh no every 50 last comments were quickly forgotten and Hasbara is back.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 18:14
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The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972.
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
on 05 Apr 2024 20:17
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Israel cannot blockade whole Gaza as there is a border with egypt. Also, Israel allows a lot of money into gaza.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
on 05 Apr 2024 20:32
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Israel is still in control of all air, water, and borders of Gaza. And it’s policies of De-development are directly responsible for the conditions Gaza is in today.
Specifically, experts from the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory found “noting” positions held by the UN Security Council, UNGA, a 2014 declaration adopted by the Conference of High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention, the ICRC, and “positions of previous commissions of inquiry,” that Israel has “control exercised over, inter alia, [Gaza’s] airspace and territorial waters, land crossings at the borders, supply of civilian infrastructure, including water and electricity, and key governmental functions such as the management of the Palestinian population registry.” They also point to “other forms of force, such as military incursions and firing missiles.”
For the Gaza-Egypt border, they hold that while the Palestinian Authority operates the crossing under the supervision of EU monitors, Israel ultimately has control. Israeli security forces supervise the passenger lists—deciding who can cross—and monitor the operations and can withhold the “consent and cooperation” required to keep the crossing open. In that vein, experts note that Israel’s “coercive measures” have further “impeded efforts to build proper democratic institutions,” and that Israel still has not transferred sovereign powers and instead maintains control over “the [Palestinian Authority]’s ability to function effectively.” Based on the actual exercise of effective control, they, therefore, find that Israel has occupied Gaza since the broader occupation of Palestine began in 1967.
Through 1993 Israel imposed a one-way system of tariffs and duties on the importation of goods through its borders; leaving Israel for Gaza, however, no tariffs or other regulations applied. Thus, for Israeli exports to Gaza, the Strip was treated as part of Israel; but for Gazan exports to Israel, the Strip was treated as a foreign entity subject to various “non-tariff barriers.” This placed Israel at a distinct advantage for trading and limited Gaza’s access to Israeli and foreign markets. Gazans had no recourse against such policies, being totally unable to protect themselves with tariffs or exchange rate controls. Thus, they had to pay more for highly protected Israeli products than they would if they had some control over their own economy. Such policies deprived the occupied territories of significant customs revenue, estimated at $118-$176 million in 1986. (Arguably, the economic terms of the Gaza—Jericho Agreement modify the situation only slightly.)
page 240
In a report released in May 2015, the World Bank revealed that as a result of Israel’s blockade and OPE, Gaza’s manufacturing sector shrank by as much as 60 percent over eight years while real per capita income is 31 percent lower than it was 20 years ago. The report also stated that the blockade alone is responsible for a 50 percent decrease in Gaza’s GDP since 2007. Furthermore, OPE (com- bined with the tunnel closure) exacerbated an already grave situation by reducing Gaza’s economy by an additional $460 million.
Page 402
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
There are so many things that were horrifying about the US’s prosecution of the Global War on Terror, but at least when confronted with the same problem the US was like, “what if we invented a knife missile that can hit a guy in the driver’s seat of a car without hurting anybody standing next to the car?” whereas the IDF took the position that a 100:1 ratio of innocent bystander to presumed militant is totally acceptable (in an environment where fully half of those innocent bystanders are children to boot). Just absolutely ghoulish levels of inhumanity.
Blackmist@feddit.uk
on 05 Apr 2024 09:58
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Something that surprised me is the sheer size of a “family home” in Gaza.
We’re not talking an apartment or even a house. We’re talking a decent sized apartment building. Six floors or so. A hundred people.
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Pretty sure that’s a feature, not a bug. Evil fucks.
Sounds like the equivalent of US drone strikes.
Yeah, but US drone strikes aren’t so intense on one small area or group of people
What do you mean? There’s a whole generation of Yemeni children afraid of Sunny days because those are the days that people die. I’m a place that gets 300+ days of sunshine a year.
We we’re much worse.
It’s not a genocide. Not defending what we’ve done, but I don’t think it’s fair to compare to genocide
It’s 100% comparable. We’re talking about collateral budgets for strikes. That’s exactly what happened in both of these scenarios.
It just so happens they have different budgets, but they both had allowances for allowing innocent people to be killed alongside potential targets. On one hand it’s plus one two three maybe even five allowable collateral on a target. On the other hand it’s 100. But it’s the same thing
It’s either okay to kill civilians or it’s not.
Plus one two three…?! I’d laugh if I didn’t know we were talking about innocent lives lost, and far more than +3. Or are you seriously going to tell me that 28k civilian casualties per year in Afghanistan didn’t happen. And USA was there for 6 years. IRAQ am too afraid to look up.
I’m not omniscient I don’t know everything that happened. But I do know the published ROE included a collateral budget for different strikes of one to two. 3 to 5 with extra approval for at least one theater of operation that I’m aware of
And for others it was decided it was within rules of engagement and washed their hands. Here’s a video from when USA killed those two Reuters reporters. Just skip to 17:05 and see the the casualty report from ground troops. Killed 11 civilians, one small child (in reality there were two)… for what? But this case was thrown out as “they acted within rules of engagement”. It’s just a shit excuse so no one is to be blamed when innocent people die and this video here shows just how frivolously they shot. One of the soldiers drove over a dead body and started laughing. Other guy said “well it’s their problem bringing child to a combat” when it’s them who engaged random group of people on the street.
I’m not sure I follow your argument. Yes it’s a terrible thing. Collateral damage should not be the cost of war. Especially when we’re fighting an asymmetric war. The occupying force should have stricter rules of engagement, no collateral allowed. They are after all the dominant occupying force
This entire discussion started when somebody compared US rules of engagement towards the current Israeli rules of engagement. Is the genocide terrible Yes absolutely. It is comparable however, to previous US military engagements. This is not to absolve the guilt of the current actions, but to castigate the previous actions
Argument is that I am not convinced what Israel is doing is genocide and it’s completely comparable to what USA and other countries did when it was also not called genocide. Collateral casualties are sad, but no war is without them. Whether war is bad or not is not ever arguable, but people can’t agree on Coke vs. Pepsi, let alone religion or other subjects so there will always be wars.
jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
I would fully disagree. We targeted civilians, not in war zones at functions like weddings, funerals and other explicitly civilian gatherings. We (the US) had the intent to kill civilians, and our tolerances for civilian casualties were an order of magnitude larger than what the IDF is using.
If anything it’s not comparable because what we did was worse.
Thank you for knowing history and at least trying to educate others from it. People here are so willing to bend definitions and ignore events that were far worse just so it can fit their narrative.
How can you bend definition of genocide so much as to excuse yourself but blame Israel at the same time. Here’s a refresher for you.
Ok, here’s a refresher for you
All the starving people in Yemen would disagree with the not genocide comment. Like in Palestine, a religious nationalist is committing atrocities with full US support.
“Error prone” is a funny way to say “Working as designed”
I see, so we’re just believing that it’s “faulty AI” rather than deliberate decisions? When it comes to war crimes, it’s not the fault of the AI.
You can’t prosecute an AI. - Israel probably
IDF: “Where is hamas?”
Chatgpt: “I don’t have knowledge of specific events or developments that occurred after my knowledge cutoff date of January 2022.”
IDF: “is it where the food trucks are?”
Chatgpt: “I don’t have sufficient information.”
IDF: “just say yes”
Chatgpt: “yes.”
I feel really really bad about laughing at this
The original article had some really damning lines. Israel is beyond barbaric they try to bomb suspects inside of their family homes instead of trying to target active combatants
Killing as many civilians as possible is modus operandi for israelis.
No. That’s not killing “as many as possible”. That’s accepting civilians around the official to be killed. If anything it’s extremely targeted attack. Killing as many as possible would be carpet bombing the whole thing and calling it a day.
Still a war crime.
fucking bootlickers man, what makes a person such a fascist apologist
Being raised by propaganda will do that.
Images after bombing, the area was essentially carpet bombed. There have been thousands of more bombs dropped since this article. The IDF wouldn’t function without western support. This is plausable deniability, they can kill substantial numbers of people and blame it on this system or ‘collateral damage’. They have to maintain an image at least somewhat. So they kill as many as they can get away with.
The Israeli state has made it clear for years they don’t believe in the long-term existance of Palestine. This is part of their project to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible to more easily take territory.
IDK slaying 100 civilians per target sounds like a fuckload of war crimes if you ask me.
If they can track them then they can wait. This is the definition of a proportionate force war crime.
Killing as many as possible is very untrue. If the aim was to kill everyone, the conflict would have been over within a week and 2 million people would be dead.
Israel has tolerances how many civilians can be killed for one Hamas member. Issue is that I don’t believe that 100 lives are worth for a single unimportant terrorist. That’s worth condemning.
Also, targeting homes should be the last resort if nothing else is possible. Not the first option. This is worth condemning, as well.
They want to make life as cruel and horrible as possible for everyone in Gaza. Also their goal is to kill as many as possible while having people defend them for “not targeting civilians”.
Rather it seems to me they don’t really care. They just want to get the job done while testing how far can they go. And they know they can go very far because otherwise west would lose a close ally in mideast.
And it’s quite sad because despite the fact that Israel has the right to defend itself, it should not have a right to do what it is currently doing.
As an occupier israel does not have the right to defend itself.
Israel has the right to defend itself like every country. It does not occupy Palestinian territories, just undisputed ones (which is also illegal). In terms of Gaza, they withdrew in 2005.
So whilst starting the war against Hamas was fully understandable, it has to be done in accordance with the international law. And Israel fails to do that.
Israel has blockade Gaza since 2000s. They are an occupier. And Gaza has the right to defend itself and this barbaric occupier.
No, they left Gaza in 2005.
There are 0 Israelis in Gaza. The only thing Gaza can defend against is Hamas.
Strange i recall there being a giant fence around Gaza and israel controlling everything that goes in and out. Maybe I’ve read a few too many Human Rights Organisation reports.
It’s pretty understandable that there is a fence. Also, Israel does not have all borders and even allows millions of dollars to get in.
Strange you justify worlds largest concentration camp where israel systematically murders and starves innocent civilians.
Have you ever been to a concentration camp?
Have you ever been to one? Have you learned anything about the Holocaust? It seems not.
I have visited several ones - Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sereď (work camp). If you visited one, you would know the comparison is absurd.
Wow that’s really cool.
If only you opened your eyes and learned anything during your visit.
I learnt a lot, for example, I know how a concentration camps look and don’t draw comparisons between incomparable.
You have learned nothing and should be ashamed.
Ad hominem is usually used when someone lacks a factual argument, so they just attack the person.
You have learned nothing and should be ashamed
It’s horrible but it’s still far from a concentration camp.
I’ve read a lot of stories of Jews surviving concentration camps, you must think they weren’t all that bad either.
The amount of children being killed each day in Gaza matches that of a concentration camp.
Compare size of Gaza to the size of a concentration camp.
Edit: The number of people killed is also not the best metric because it does not take into consideration the brutality.
The brutality of israel is indeed at the same level of those of the Nazi’s. Shooting desperate people for food. Starving people to death. Mass bombing families at night.
When we look at brutality this is directly comparable to the Holocaust and israel is comparable to the Nazi’s
Not at all. Is israel: a) changing people’s eye color by injecting a needle to their eyes? b) stitching together twins? c) using hungry dogs to eat people while alive? d) doing useless surgeries on healthy people without anesthesia?
Yes israel is systematically blocking anesthetics and bombing children, having them undergo amputations without anesthetics and sufficient medical equipment.
Yes they have let dogs eat people at Shifa recently and even more recently this video of israel shooting a Palestinian trying to collect food and then having dogs eat him
1,000 children have undergone amputations without anaesthesia in Gaza
Limbs of Palestinians detained by Israel amputated because of injuries caused by shackles, doctor says
Yes, so it’s not comparable.
It is sad that you are this much in denial of reality. You have been linked evidence.
Yes, evidence that is by far not as brutal.
“Israel has a right to self defense”
“Yes israel is running a concentration camp but the Nazi’s were more brutal!”
Crazy how that works
It doesn’t have a concentration camp and it has right to defend.
Oh no every 50 last comments were quickly forgotten and Hasbara is back.
The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972.
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
The Blockade is still Occupation
The Gaza Strip − why the history of the densely populated enclave is key to understanding the current conflict
Israel cannot blockade whole Gaza as there is a border with egypt. Also, Israel allows a lot of money into gaza.
Israel is still in control of all air, water, and borders of Gaza. And it’s policies of De-development are directly responsible for the conditions Gaza is in today.
Israel claims it is no longer occupying the Gaza Strip. What does international law say?
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
There are so many things that were horrifying about the US’s prosecution of the Global War on Terror, but at least when confronted with the same problem the US was like, “what if we invented a knife missile that can hit a guy in the driver’s seat of a car without hurting anybody standing next to the car?” whereas the IDF took the position that a 100:1 ratio of innocent bystander to presumed militant is totally acceptable (in an environment where fully half of those innocent bystanders are children to boot). Just absolutely ghoulish levels of inhumanity.
Something that surprised me is the sheer size of a “family home” in Gaza.
We’re not talking an apartment or even a house. We’re talking a decent sized apartment building. Six floors or so. A hundred people.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68400463
Was this AI programmed by the fucking Israeli Peter Gibbons?