Gsus4@mander.xyz
on 17 Aug 2024 02:26
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It’s funny to see how this is reported in different countries. Some don’t focus much on the “unpleasantness” remark, they focused on this pearl also in the article:
“It’s different to a dictatorship—it is a government with an authoritarian slant but it isn’t a dictatorship the likes of which we know so many in this world.”
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 17 Aug 2024 16:42
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This is so funny, they almost said “no no, I mean yes, this is a dictadorship but it is a GOOD one”
Siegfried@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 06:04
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You would surprise your self. In latin america every party riggs ellections. Maduro did it before. Everybody knew it. The only difference here is the margin.
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Aug 2024 10:43
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Then in Latin America, there are no leftist parties.
I’m not saying “leftists are too pure to rig elections” what I’m arguing is that from the definition of leftist it immediately follows that rigging elections is fundamentally incompatible. Leftist believe in workers having control. If the workers have control, it implies the existence of a democratic process. From this it immediately follows that officials who don’t have qualms rigging elections are acting in ways that are fundamentally incompatible with leftism.
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 17 Aug 2024 16:45
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Pretty much this, all these parties will call themselves “leftists” but they are centrist at most.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 15:17
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No true Scotsman would do this
Sorgan71@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 16:26
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It’s funny to see how this is reported in different countries. Some don’t focus much on the “unpleasantness” remark, they focused on this pearl also in the article:
This is so funny, they almost said “no no, I mean yes, this is a dictadorship but it is a GOOD one”
“Fellow Leftist”?
Leftists don’t rig elections.
Everyone rigs elections
You would surprise your self. In latin america every party riggs ellections. Maduro did it before. Everybody knew it. The only difference here is the margin.
Then in Latin America, there are no leftist parties.
I’m not saying “leftists are too pure to rig elections” what I’m arguing is that from the definition of leftist it immediately follows that rigging elections is fundamentally incompatible. Leftist believe in workers having control. If the workers have control, it implies the existence of a democratic process. From this it immediately follows that officials who don’t have qualms rigging elections are acting in ways that are fundamentally incompatible with leftism.
Pretty much this, all these parties will call themselves “leftists” but they are centrist at most.
No true Scotsman would do this
the parties they support so often do.
Who the fuck is calling Maduro a leftist?