Father kills teen daughter after she refused to delete TikTok account, Pakistan police say (www.cbsnews.com)
from babysandpiper@sopuli.xyz to world@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 11:38
https://sopuli.xyz/post/30231588

Pakistan police on Friday said a father shot dead his daughter after she refused to delete her account on popular video-sharing app TikTok.

In the Muslim-majority country, women can be subjected to violence by family members for not following strict rules on how to behave in public, including in online spaces.

“The girl’s father had asked her to delete her TikTok account. On refusal, he killed her,” a police spokesperson told AFP.

According to a police report shared with AFP, investigators said the father killed his 16-year-old daughter on Tuesday “for honor.” He was subsequently arrested.

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Buffalox@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 11:45 next collapse

It’s insane how twisted in the head you have to be to think that killing your daughter is the honorable thing to do!
Religion is harmful to both individuals and society. Extreme religion is extremely harmful to both individuals and society.

Saleh@feddit.org on 11 Jul 12:00 next collapse

One of the core societal demands of the prophet Mohamed, blessings and peace be upon him, was to end the practice of burying daughters alive. At the time a daughter was considered a disgrace, so some pre-islamic Arabs murdered their daughters this way.

The Quran is also very explicit about the rights of women and the correct behavior towards them, something that is often ignored in societies that claim to be muslim, but evidently did not read much.

“OG Islam” is fundamentally opposed to femicide. Femicides aren’t a religious but a cultural issue and prevalent outside of religious groups too.

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 12:09 next collapse

“Don’t kill women” making “OG Islam” somehow “better” is a pretty low fucking bar.

Nearly all religion is a regressive cancer on society used as a scapegoat to do terrible things.

bassomitron@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 12:28 next collapse

That’s ignoring their point, though. They are simply pointing out that the father in this article is not following the Quran, they’re following some other twisted ideology that uses the Quran as an excuse, despite the source material explicitly telling them not to do this type of behavior.

As a side note, I’m not religious, and I do believe that organized religion has been the cause of horrible atrocities. I just think your response isn’t really addressing what the other person was debating, but maybe I’m wrong.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 11 Jul 13:07 collapse

they're following some other twisted ideology that uses the Quran as an excuse,

Fun fact: The Quran doesn't feature into these, not even as an excuse. My reply to the parent comment has more details, but people who do these vile acts take "honor violations warrant death" to be an axiom on its own, just as a birthday warrants a celebration and a sick family member warrants a visit. I mean, there's a reason the words "Islam" and "religion" feature exactly 0 times in the article.

nao@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 13:36 collapse

To be fair, the article does start of with referring to Pakistan as “Muslim-majority country”. This is probably where the association came from.

worldistracist@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jul 16:31 collapse

What? That’s not what a scapegoat is, idiot

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 12:33 collapse

A scapegoat is someone used to blame as an alternative to yourself. Religion isn’t really a “person”, but it’s often used as a way to shift blame away with a “God told me to do it” and God is considered a person driving most religions.

It’s really not that hard to understand what I meant from context clues and, given my comment’s positive voting average and your negative one, you seem to be in the minority of not getting it.

6nk06@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 12:22 next collapse

fundamentally opposed to femicide

That’s not what the official guidebook says though. You can lie or be in denial, but we can read.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 11 Jul 12:47 collapse

I mean... no? Like, like it or hate it the Quran is pretty clear about this. If you disagree, then give me a verse number.

6nk06@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 12:59 next collapse

lol. Even scholars agree that its full of misogynistic bullshit that should be read in a symbolic way. Nice try though but we’ve had this debate for decades.

Maalus@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:15 collapse

Then give them the verse number like they asked.

6nk06@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 17:02 collapse

Good god, they haven’t read their own book?

Maalus@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:23 collapse

Nope, you haven’t. That’s why they are asking you for a verse that says what you claim it says.

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Eyekaytee@aussie.zone on 11 Jul 12:26 next collapse

It’s true, rights for women in the Islamic world and their treatment is far better than in the western world!

The Quran is also very explicit about the rights of women and the correct behavior towards them, something that is often ignored in societies that claim to be muslim, but evidently did not read much.

Exactly!

I really wish the west would catch up to the Islamic world with how it treats its women. I especially like how they are so progressive when it comes to gays and lesbians, inshallah !

/s

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:09 collapse

I think it’s best you include “/s” in this one!

Eyekaytee@aussie.zone on 11 Jul 14:18 collapse

updated thanks!

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:04 next collapse

Yawn. Now talk about Sharia courts and Sharia law, where a woman can be sentenced to death for being raped cheating, female genital mutilation is allowed and generally, women can be sentenced to death given appropriate sentences and outside Muslim men deny Sharia law to outsiders keep the sacred secrets of Islam between themselves.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:22 next collapse

Muhammad wanting to save all the young girls? For himself?

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 21:08 next collapse

Seems to me that Islam is discriminating strongly against women, and that could absolutely be a factor to prevent this sick culture from being abandoned.
I know there are Muslims who are good people, but I don’t think the religion is helping.
I knew many Muslims when I lived in Copenhagen, from many different countries, and common for the men were that they were way more discriminating against women than is normally acceptable among cultural Danes. They also commonly claimed that the women preferred it that way! For instance regarding very stereotypical strong gender roles.
I also don’t believe the honor thing is without heavy influence from religion, and religion is helping preserve these medieval standards in modern times.

I know there are Muslims that are more modern and more moral, and just like most Christians have abandoned ancient doctrines that are clearly bad.
It just seems to me that Islam has not progressed away from such practices as much as Christianity generally has.
For instance by far the most Muslims still believe apostasy is a sin that should be punished. In a modern society that is unacceptable.

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danc4498@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 12:50 next collapse

I’m willing to bet this is less about religion and more about an awful piece of shit human. There’s many cases of people killing their kids in the US that have nothing to do with religion. Just assholes that shouldn’t exist.

I do agree that religion sucks and encourages awful people, but to murder your kid you have to be a deranged human to begin with.

Eyekaytee@aussie.zone on 11 Jul 13:33 collapse

many cases of people killing their kids in the US

We can take a look at honour killings ?

In 1989 in St. Louis, Missouri, sixteen-year-old Palestina (Tina) Isa was murdered by her Palestinian father, Zein Isa

Amina and Sarah Said were the children of an Egyptian immigrant father Yaser Abdel Said

Sandeela Kanwal was a Pakistani woman living in the Atlanta metropolitan area in Clayton County, Georgia, who was murdered by her father Chaudhry Rashid[1] in an honor killing, on July 6, 2008

In February 2009, Muzzammil Hassan (Pakistani American) was arrested and charged with murdering his estranged wife Aasiya Zubair with a knife

Faleh Hassan Almaleki, an Iraqi immigrant, used his vehicle to strike and kill his daughter Noor Almaleki (aged 20) in a Phoenix valley parking lot in October 2009

Jordanian-American Ali Mahmood Awad Irsan was sentenced to death in a Texas court on August 14, 2018, for the murders of Gelareh Bagherzadeh and Coty Beavers in Greater Houston

en.wikipedia.org/…/Honor_killing_in_the_United_St…

Something in common with them all, I don’t know what 🤔

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:02 next collapse

You can listen to podcasts of Muslim “elders” and they openly laugh and boast about how women “should not even be heard” when those elders live in non-Eastern countries. Yes, England, I’m looking at you.

Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social on 11 Jul 14:46 next collapse

Yes, 'honor killing' happens at different rates in different cultures, and it being an important factor in Middle Eastern culture could explain a higher rates in these cultures. But I am wondering, do we kill our daughters and wifes less here in the West? Or do we just give up different motives than honor? The US certainly has a very high femicide rate, higher than most Middle Eastern countries. (according to this website. Haven't found infanticide rates yet.

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com on 12 Jul 00:28 next collapse

en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_countries_by_intention…

Doesn’t split it by gender. Obviously there are much worse places (looking at you, Caribbean), but the U.S. needs to look in the mirror.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 12 Jul 01:29 collapse

Okay I looked at these numbers and holy fuck, the only Middle Eastern country higher than America is Iraq, with 3.0 vs 2.5 per 100k women. For context the Iraqi data is taken from 2013, smack dab in the middle of the ISIS reign of terror. Like this isn't even a gotcha anymore I actually feel bad for American women who have to deal with this shit. There's no data for Pakistan, but for example Egypt is at 0.5, Jordan 0.6 and Palestine 0.3. With Egypt (which is middle-of-the-pack for the region) lower than most of Europe, a whole bunch of people should be doing a whole bunch of introspection before crying about other people's (admittedly vile) traditions.

Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social on 12 Jul 04:14 collapse

But it's got nothing to do with 'honor' so it's okay. /s

danc4498@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 15:19 next collapse

Ok, you specifically listed a small fraction of children murdered by their parents. Of course religion has issues and encourages and enables awful abuses. But if you are a parent who is capable of murdering your child, you are fucked in the head with or without religion. That’s all I’m saying.

TheOctonaut@mander.xyz on 11 Jul 15:35 next collapse

If you label “when people from the middle east kill family members for disobeying the family” as honor killings, then yes it’s going to be a list of primarily Muslim people.

If you replace “from the middle east” with “from Italian-American culture” you get a list of mafioso.

If you replace it with “from the Italian peninsula c.0 AD” then you get a list of Roman patriarchs who had the literal power of life or death legally over their offspring and numbered rather than named their useless daughters.

Islam did not make these people kill their families. It did however make an American decide to call it an “honor killing”.

worldistracist@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jul 16:29 collapse

You know exactly what you racist cunt. You just don’t want to say it because it would defeat the dogwhistling

BlackVenom@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 16:58 collapse

Islam is a religion.

worldistracist@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jul 18:59 collapse

Typical deflection. “We’re not racist we just hate islam”, said every nazi for 20 years

Eyekaytee@aussie.zone on 12 Jul 01:27 collapse

Islam is a religion.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 11 Jul 12:58 next collapse

Note: There is exactly zero religion involved in honor killings; this is a 100% cultural act. Here are some choice quotes from Wikipedia:

Honor killings are primarily associated with the Middle East, the Maghreb and the Indian subcontinent, but they are also rooted in other societies, such as the Philippines, Northern Caucasus, Latin America, East Africa, and historically in Mediterranean Europe.

In French culture, stories about such homicides were romanticized and featured prominently in French literature of the 19th century, and "In literature as in life, unconventional women needed to be severely punished lest their defiant attitudes inspire further acts of rebellion".[33] In Corsica, there was a strong custom of vendetta, which required Corsicans to murder anyone who wronged their family honor. Between 1821 and 1852 approximately 4,300 vendetta killings were perpetrated in Corsica.[34] France also had a strong culture of dueling meant to uphold honor, and France was called by the National Geographic "the dueling capital of Europe".[35]

Though it may seem in a modern context that honor killings are tied to certain religious traditions, the data does not support this claim.[95][93] Research in Jordan found that teenagers who strongly endorsed honor killings in fact did not come from more religious households than teens who rejected it.[93] The ideology of honor is a cultural phenomenon that does not appear to be related to religion, be it Middle Eastern or Western countries, and honor killings likely have a long history in human societies which predate many modern religions.[96] In the US, a rural trend known as the "small-town effect" exhibits elevated incidents of argument-related homicides among white males, particularly in honor-oriented states in the South and the West, where everyone "knows your name and knows your shame." This is similarly observed in rural areas in other parts of the world.

Provocation in English law and related laws on adultery in English law, as well as Article 324 of the French penal code of 1810 were legal concepts which allowed for reduced punishment for the murder committed by a husband against his wife and her lover if the husband had caught them in the act of adultery.[101] On 7 November 1975, Law no. 617/75 Article 17 repealed the 1810 French Penal Code Article 324. The 1810 penal code Article 324 passed by Napoleon was copied by Middle Eastern Arab countries. It inspired Jordan's Article 340 which permitted the murder of a wife and her lover if caught in the act at the hands of her husband (today the article provides for mitigating circumstances).[102] France's 1810 Penal Code Article 324 also inspired the 1858 Ottoman Penal Code's Article 188, both the French Article 324 and Ottoman article 188 were drawn on to create Jordan's Article 340 which was retained even after a 1944 revision of Jordan's laws which did not touch public conduct and family law;[103][104][105] article 340 still applies to this day in a modified form.[102] France's Mandate over Lebanon resulted in its penal code being imposed there in 1943–1944, with the French-inspired Lebanese law for adultery allowing the mere accusation of adultery against women resulting in a maximum punishment of two years in prison while men have to be caught in the act and not merely accused, and are punished with only one year in prison.

-Wikipedia

So yeah, this is a big problem in many parts of the world and if your reaction to innocent women losing their lives is to make a tired and irrelevant point, then please don't.

Cypher@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:10 next collapse

Duelling was rarely to the death, and between consenting individuals whom were both armed.

Seems odd to draw a comparison between that and unarmed children getting murdered by family members.

burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org on 11 Jul 15:14 next collapse

Yeah I guess dueling is totally fine then?

Cypher@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:39 collapse

If I need to explain to you that two completely unrelated acts can be judged differently you might want to head back to pre-school, which is where most humans generally learn these sort of lessons.

burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org on 11 Jul 18:36 collapse

I mean I’m not defending honor killings because why would any sane person but you sound pretty apologetic towards yet another archaic patriarchal tradition just because it happens to have been part of your culture

Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth on 11 Jul 16:05 collapse

It's more about extreme actions done in the name of "protecting honor".

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 18:21 collapse

honour ego.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 16:12 collapse

Funny then that when they move to another culture, and take it with them, it is always muslims.

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 18:20 next collapse

I live in a country where I’ve heard a 15-16yo Pakistani kid on a packed bus state he was going to kill his sister because he didn’t like who she was dating - and that he had hit her before because of it. I don’t think most people have any idea how normalised it is in their culture. The country is England.

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 02:40 collapse

Not sure if this is relevent, but I just wanna share my story.

My mom wants me dead because I have depression.

Not schizophrenia, not sociopathy/psychopathy, just being a little more sad than “normal”.

The reasoning? “Because you wouldn’t be able to enjoy life anyways, and your life is meaning less”, threatning to leave me out of the will because “you can just get welfare from the government”, despite me helping her with a lot of her stuff like bussiness licenses, filing taxes, translation (they are first-gen immigrants), etc. Like wtf is this concept of leaving someone with nothing when they have been so helpful throughout your life, just because “you have depression and you are no longer useful to society”. Then put obstacles in me getting antidepresdants because “you can’t be relying on meds for the rest of your life, just go outside” bitch wtf? Go outside to the ICE agents swarming the streets?

(I’m Chinese-American)

I mean at lesst I’m not dead yet, so I probably don’t deserve to complain too much, some people have it worse than me, I mean this person in the article literally got murdered. Tbh there were moments when I was a teen that I thought my mom was gonna stab me when I sleep. The fact I’m even alive is a miracle.

This toxic culture is why I never want to return to PRC, not to mention, the CCP problem.

But… now… the USA is also on fire becauses… I mean… you know… current events…

Life is going great! 🫠

Can’t complain! (literally can’t complain else you get arrested)

ReiRose@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 06:53 next collapse

My goodness! This is a lot for you to have to go through any day of the week, let alone also with depression. You’re doing great that you can talk about it, and I hope you have a community and/or friendship group to fill in the void she has created.

Leaving (or even threatening to leave) you out of the will is super messed up, I hope you have siblings/family that would stand up for you, even if only after the fact.

She may have her own mental issues or even past trauma that she’s projecting onto her relationship with you and your depression. I dont say that to excuse or justify her, just to acknowledge that you aren’t who she thinks you are, your depression isn’t what she thinks it is, and your journey is within your control (relatively speaking), not hers.

Regarding the united states: we can’t really control it. However, we can control our own ‘back yards’. Find one thing, no matter how small, that you dont like and try to fix that in your life or your community. Something obtainable. (Eg, dont like single use plastics bc planet, dont want to pay for reusable bags bc oligarchs…then make reusable bags 🎉 - instructions Its ok to start small. 1000 people doing little things as a start is way better than a nobody doing anything because it ‘WoNt MaKe A dIfFeReNcE’

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 07:23 next collapse

That’s horrible, I don’t really know what to say, except best wishes to you.
I always thought Chinese were a more pragmatic people than most, but this is not pragmatic of your parents, this is cynical and evil.

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 08:40 collapse

Chinese culture is like you pretend to be very nice to other people, but the abuse is within the family.

Like the 红包 (red packets) for Lunar New Year is so… wild.

Like so you give your friend’s kids $50 and their parents give your kids $50 then pretend like this is an actual gift, but then when they go home, the parents are like: “给我帮你保管” (Let me help you safeguard it)

Like… what is the point of the red packets then? Money gets shuffled but it just end up in the same people’s hands.

I mean at least that’s how my parents did it, I think my aunt’s more Americanized family actually let their kids buy stuff?

I went to my cousin’s house once (not willingly btw) and their family arrived in the US earlier than mine, so they cousins were born on US soil (as opposed to me who is first-gen immigrant), their father (my uncle) was from Hong Kong, so basically very western-minded.

They had an entire game system (Nintendo Wii something) in their house, I never had a game system lol, I was so jealous. Tbf they are slightly richer (like “middle class” rich), but even later on when my parents got more disposable income (like teenage years), I never got any games, or toys.

Like the vibes I was getting was that their household was still very strict, but not they actually get to have fun sometimes.

I think its this “filial piety” thing that is fucking toxic as hell.

I guess I see this with politics as well. I mean on the surface you never see Xi acting like the buffoons in the US-Republican party (I mean y’all know those crazy trump tweets and thinnly veiled racism, that sort of crazy stuff). The CCP might not outright do crazy shit like that, they do put up this act that make them look good, but deep down, they are both the same. In this analogy, the country is like the family, the civillians are like the children, children gets yelled at or even beaten (police harassing dissidents), but then the parents (the CCP) talks to everyone else (other countries) like everything is fine.

Family, Country, these patterns repeat.

I mean on the other hand, the US is like that conservative man in the suburb that open-carries a gun everywhere (the 18 aircraft carriers and hundreds of military bases world wide) and sees everyone as a threat (“inverventions” in other countries)

Seems like culture and politics are so intertwined.

(I feel like I’m rambling… idk if this wall of text even makes sense)

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 21:36 collapse

A lot of that makes sense, and the issue of just pretending to be nice is absolutely also an American thing. That’s being superficial, and that’s just about stereotypical American.
And absolutely for many countries culture and politics are intertwined. IDK so much about China, but for USA the culture of violence is absolutely both in politics and in the population. USA is a very atypically violent country for a democracy.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 09:21 next collapse

Nazis. Those Nazis that want to hurt you, have NO value whatsoever.

Tryenjer@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 22:08 collapse

In my country you can’t disinherit your children.

Flamekebab@piefed.social on 11 Jul 12:11 next collapse

A family with a child murderer as its head is obviously more honourable than the alternative. Morons.

nebulaone@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 12:33 next collapse

Must have been one of those fanatic atheists again, right? They are evil and probably worship Satan. /s

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 11 Jul 13:34 next collapse

The atheist urss wad responsible of killing million

Eyekaytee@aussie.zone on 11 Jul 13:40 collapse

I have no doubt the atheists of USSR were inspired by the writings of Richard Dawkins, his seminal book “The Selfish Gene” was likely what inspired the killings

worldistracist@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jul 16:32 collapse

Even he is less annoying than some stupid internet atheist

HuskerNation@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 12:36 next collapse

Can we all agree that every religion is cancer

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 11 Jul 13:34 next collapse

Extremism is cancer

HuskerNation@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 16:44 collapse

No all religion is cancer

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 11 Jul 16:57 collapse

Actually humanity is cancer. Let’s all self destruct and let animals lives peacefully

Ironfist79@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:59 next collapse

Most of them certainly can be but Buddhism seems to be pretty practical and reasonable.

anon6789@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 16:01 next collapse

I think it’s just less talked about because it seems to be going on so far from most English speaking places.

I’m not super familiar on any details, but of course there is a wiki for Buddism and Violence and there is plenty of current day stuff going on.

People are always going to eventually act their worst when enough refuse to back down on their personal beliefs, no matter their religion, or lack thereof for that matter. It’s sad seeing all the discrimination in the comments.

veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 19:18 collapse

Except when it comes to dealing with Rohingyas in Myanmar

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com on 12 Jul 00:31 collapse

I think the issue is the very foundation of religion leads to an “us vs them” mentality.

Zephorah@discuss.online on 11 Jul 13:55 next collapse

Insanity. Pure, unmitigated insanity.

Aimeeloulm@feddit.uk on 11 Jul 15:16 collapse

I’m not sure he had any sanity in the first place to go insane, these kinds of ‘creatures’ only look human, if he can murder his daughter then he can murder anyone, hes a danger to everyone around him, should be locked up for life 😠

GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 21:02 collapse

Dehumanizing people is the first step in treating them like animals, and then extermination them - genocide. Don’t go down that path. It always ends the same way.

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 13:59 next collapse

Media needs to give a new term to the concept of Pakistani “honor”. Governments are afraid to touch it (esp. the UK govt.) with regard to Pakistanis in particular and Islam. Probably for fear of being victims of ‘honor’ killings themselves given recent history.

ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 14:08 next collapse

My proposal is “legal cause to slit the dad’s throat in self-defense”.

x00z@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 15:10 collapse

Well in this case it would have been a 16 year old girl against an adult man with a gun.

Not the best chances for self defense.

ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 20:13 collapse

Some chance is better than none. If a dude was pointing a gun at me, fully intending to blow my head off, I’d fight him with my bare fists if I had to.

Oh, and adrenaline is a powerful thing. Eye and throat are excellent targets in a fight to the death, and any weapon you can get your hands on is allowed.

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 11 Jul 16:08 collapse

Exactly, Australia did this. We used to call hidden punches from the side “king hits”, and now they are called “coward punches”, which is far more appropriate. In the same way that Australian men who do it are absolute cowards, these family members who kill their daughters are absolute filth of humanity.

I don’t know the appropriate term, but it has to be changed.

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:56 collapse

Yep, unfortunately, media have the right to be afraid following the Charlie Hebdo nonsense, here are some examples of criticisng Islam:

  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie - Now Sir. a man who wrote some books Islamists didn’t like. So they threatened to kill him. A fatwa. Multi-million pound bounty and a failed assassination attempt. All because of a book. All through the 80s he was in hiding, covered by the police, paid for by the tax payer. When he emerged from hiding like in the 90s or so, everything had died down and was cool, yes? Nope, he got attacked by a guy with a knife and he lost an eye in 2022 in NY. Read this, it states “a man has been charged”, it (cowardly?) failed to mention that the 24 yo man was a Muslim with ties to Lebanon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Salman_Rushdie
  • Charlie Hebdo - a French magazine was raided and people there were shot by two young Muslim men who killed 12 and injured 11. “It published cartoons of the Islamic prophet Muhammad in 2012, forcing France to temporarily close embassies and schools in more than 20 countries amid fears of reprisals.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting. More Muslim-led violence continued after the Charlie Hebdo raid where jews were targeted and killed. Most of the muslims involved were unfortunately killed (so they think they go to a heaven, full of virgins or something… is that meant to be appealing to young men? - Islam knows how to market itself to an audience of rapist men)
  • 2020, A French teacher beheaded for showing his students the Charlie Hebdo cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed. Yes, beheaded and disemboweled. Not by the French peasants for a revolution, but by a former 18yo Muslim student who was shown such pictures in a lesson on free speech. france24.com/…/20211015-france-honours-quiet-hero… - It was seen as “an attack on the core values drilled by teachers into generations of schoolchildren, including the separation of church and state and the right to blaspheme.”
AmidFuror@fedia.io on 11 Jul 14:13 next collapse

Yeah, right. Like I'm going to believe anything the pigs say. ACAB.

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 12 Jul 04:44 collapse

Lots of bootlickers on here.

worldistracist@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jul 16:34 next collapse

Imb4 a bunch of pigs starts whining about religions and suddenly care a lot about women rights when it comes to shitting on brown people.

Anything but to confront your own misoginy innit?

ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 17:17 next collapse

Sure, this event on the other side of the world is tragic or whatever, but isn’t the real story here that my political opponents are bad people?

worldistracist@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jul 18:57 collapse

Given that those political opponents once uttered shit like “palestinians deserved it because they threat women badly”, yes, yes they are.

But hey i’m sure you will remembet that girl when the US will bomb pakistan

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com on 12 Jul 00:29 collapse

Can also be repeated with LGBTQ. People will pontificate about these cultures oppressing them even as rights are eroding here in the U.S.

Schmoo@startrek.website on 11 Jul 18:04 next collapse

Doesn’t anyone find the recent uptick in articles about Islamic fundamentalist crimes odd? There are billions of people in the world and these sorts of things happen frequently, yet they rarely receive non-local news coverage. It seems to me like the media is capitalizing on rising Islamophobia (due to the escalating conflicts in the Middle East) by releasing sensational articles about Islamic extremism, which has the effect of drumming up more Islamophobic hate. When crimes like this are committed in the US by Christians the media tends to blame mental illness.

catty@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 18:17 next collapse

Are you daring to suggest that posts on Lemmy by certain accounts are only to manipulate public opinion. No!!!1

  • "Lemmy is too small, why would bots bother?" etc, etc.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 03:00 collapse

Yeah now that I look at it, OP is a bot that just posts toxic news. It’s also not self-tagged as a bot account.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 12 Jul 00:18 next collapse

Yeah, I have no idea why CBS is reporting on this Pakistan stuff. I don’t need to hear about murders in random countries.

PS: 1000 people are murdered every day all over the world. Roughly 30% of those are intrafamilial.

StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:42 next collapse

What is this Meta media literacy? Real talk though, I bet you could find the Christian equivalent if you looked hard enough.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 09:16 collapse

Recent news of Cristian parents letting a daughter die of disease

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 09:15 next collapse

Probably prepping for a global genocide

McDropout@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 09:33 collapse

I mean a white christian german man killed an algerian med student in Germany 3 days ago and we don’t see much news about it.

Murder of Algerian woman in Germany prompts protests, calls for justice

5in1k@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 22:53 next collapse

What a religion. God they’re poisonous.

13igTyme@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 01:10 next collapse

All religions are poisonous.

Outwit1294@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 08:51 collapse

Yes, all other religions are very peaceful and have never caused deaths

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 09:18 next collapse

Maybe we should ban religions.

5in1k@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 11:39 collapse

Yes hence my comment on religions being poisonous comment. It was barely 2 sentences, please keep up.

DrDystopia@lemy.lol on 11 Jul 23:56 next collapse

They call it “honour killings” but it sure is a disgrace…

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 09:15 next collapse

Anyone who can do that to their daughter on a whim, I simpy can’t see as human.

outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 09:45 next collapse

Im glad i live somewhere civilized and that could n-

…shit.

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 09:52 collapse

Honour is just their excuse, of course - it’s really just about controlling women. These weak fuckers feel their control slipping and their go-to is murder.

SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 00:16 next collapse

What a fucknut

Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 00:44 next collapse

She probably thought it was toss up to be murdered immediately and quickly or suffer a slow death by daily anti-women injustices. She was dead anyway for simply having a brain as well as a vagina.

Rivalarrival@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 00:56 next collapse

She was dead anyway for simply having a brain

TikTok

There is no evidence she had a brain.

OmegaLemmy@discuss.online on 12 Jul 06:24 next collapse

Shame on anyone who upvoted this

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 06:37 collapse

Holy shit, show respect for your fellow human. God damn.

jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 22:57 collapse

respect is earned, not given

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Jul 01:26 collapse

As individuals who are personal, yes. As the concept of a human life? No.

darthsidious@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Jul 01:09 collapse

I’d say it was because she had both a brain and vagina at the same time. Patriarchy supporters go insane when they’re forced to realize women can use their brains.

Zacryon@feddit.org on 12 Jul 21:49 next collapse

Now tell me again about how peaceful religions are.

Hellsfire29@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 22:11 next collapse

Alright virtue signallers, pack up and head to Pakistan to voice your displeasure!! Bonus money if you’re a part of the LGBT community! Whoever survives the longest gets a shiny new prize!!

BigBenis@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 22:16 next collapse

When I think of somebody as a parent I tend to subconsciously assign them the traits of a loving, caring and well-meaning adult even if their actions are less than perfect. But in reality, any psychopath with functional sex organs can be a parent.

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Jul 01:29 collapse

Yeah, this is proven by the ultra Christian types who lets their kids die “because it’s what god wants”, or the abusive parents, or the ones who are absent 99% of the time, or the ones who leave their kids in the car to do dumb shit, and on and on.

Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 23:17 collapse

I get it. TikTok is trash.