China hits Lockheed Martin and Raytheon with export ban after US arms sales to Taiwan (www.independent.co.uk)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 02 Jan 2025 23:21
https://lemmy.world/post/23823169

Summary

China has imposed an export ban on dual-use products to 28 U.S. defense contractors, including Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, and General Dynamics, in retaliation for U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.

Ten firms were barred from trade and investments in China.

Beijing condemned the arms sales, citing violations of the One China principle and threats to Taiwan Strait stability.

The ban follows Taiwan’s recent receipt of advanced U.S. military equipment, including Abrams tanks, as the island bolsters its defenses against China’s military activities.

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tal@lemmy.today on 02 Jan 2025 23:43 next collapse

I imagine Washington and Beijing are probably in some degree of concurrence about US defense contractors not having a supply chain that goes through China.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 00:09 collapse

Not really, they’re the one country besides Israel that the US will never invade or go to war with, since it would permanently end the US economy.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 00:12 next collapse

Note China needs American money just as much as America needs Chinese junk.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 00:23 collapse

Actually they don’t. Their own middle class is outspending the US, and brics ensures the US isnt ever the primary consumer market ever again.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 00:29 next collapse

The U.S. spent over half a trillion dollars on Chinese goods in 2022. You’re telling me they don’t need that?

ustr.gov/…/peoples-republic-china

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 00:39 collapse

The country with a 17 trillion usd GDP? Yeah the half trillion in exports isn’t that important.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 00:41 collapse

Sorry… 5% of their GDP isn’t that important?

What the fuck are you talking about?

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 01:05 collapse

Correct, 5% of GDP, specifically from the private sector, would not effect China. It’d make some investors mad, but no one would lose their home, no one would starve, hell they wouldn’t even be out of work unless they refused public sector jobs - of which there are nearly twice as many as private sector jobs.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 01:07 next collapse

This is some real ignorance of basic macroeconomics.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 01:09 collapse

What basic macroeconomics? The fact China’s economy is insulated from capital and isn’t reliant on imports anymore?

China isn’t a capitalist nation in anyway. They have a private market, which cannot effect the rest of the economy.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 03 Jan 2025 01:35 collapse

China isn’t a capitalist nation in anyway

You could have saved a lot of time by just telling everyone that you’ve never been to China and have no clue how it really operates. The Nordics are more communist than China.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 01:42 next collapse

I do love it when people tell me a nation with a massive stock exchange and over 800 billionaires isn’t capitalist.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 01:42 collapse

The nordics have less than 40% of their economy in the private sector? Got literally any sources for that little one?

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 03 Jan 2025 01:48 collapse

Do you think that makes China communist? Could you share your definition of communism? Because I don’t think it’s Marx’s.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 01:52 next collapse

Oh no, you’ve never read theory or anything even marginally related to economics from anything but a corporatist perspective.

I’m so sorry.

Anyway this discussion is above you. China is a socialist state. They are a dictatorship of the proletariat, not of capital. Their economy is centrally planned. Their economy is 60% publicly owned. The part of the economy that is a private market has nothing to do with anything essential to life. No part of Marx nor Lenin’s work precludes a market economy. Not one single part.

Read your theory.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 10:47 collapse

Apparently they couldn’t. They could accuse you of not reading your theory though.

Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 07:47 collapse

You realise that during the great recession GDP dropped by less than 5% in the US right?

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 03 Jan 2025 01:34 next collapse

and brics ensures the US isnt ever the primary consumer market ever again.

I will never not laugh at BRICStards. BRICS is and always will be a joke. It’s a fabrication by Goldman Sachs that needy despots latched onto and are trying to manifest into reality because they’re jealous of not being part of NATO.

theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 01:44 next collapse

NATO has nothing to do with brics. Given you have no idea how Chinas economy works I guess I shouldn’t have expected you to know the difference between economic and military pacts.

Over half the world’s GDP and population are a part of brics btw.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 03 Jan 2025 01:48 collapse

NATO is not only military. It never has been. It’s ideological.

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cygnus@lemmy.ca on 03 Jan 2025 02:06 collapse

Oh sorry I didn’t realize this was a parody account — carry on.

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 04:21 collapse

It’s not really a NATO “common defense” analogue and more of a G7-style economic partnership among countries not in the G7.

visualcapitalist.com/charted-comparing-the-gdp-of…

recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee on 03 Jan 2025 11:09 collapse

Coming in HOT with the delusions this morning.

My bad, this is a shitposting account guys. It’s just jokes.

Shiggles@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 00:19 next collapse

The 1800s want their predictions back

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tomatolung@sopuli.xyz on 03 Jan 2025 01:22 next collapse

I think you misunderstand the complexity of the situation. The US would go to war on behalf of our economic interest and allies depending on the leadership, but not likely initiate itat the moment. China is under immense pressure of a different type and may use military might in the future to change it’s power, but both have challenge which make your statement too black and white to be valid. It’s more gray.

The following are all Foreign Affair, but give good long form context to current challenges.

foreignaffairs.com/…/why-china-wont-give-failing-…

foreignaffairs.com/…/chinas-real-economic-crisis

foreignaffairs.com/…/chinas-gray-zone-offensive-a…

foreignaffairs.com/…/why-china-isnt-scared-trump

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 03 Jan 2025 03:54 collapse

The chances of the US shooting its own dick by deciding to invade another country can sometimes be low, but they’re never zero.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org on 03 Jan 2025 01:18 next collapse

Good. Any country that did the right thing and supports the Republic of China should be morally opposed to any dealing with the PRC & the CCP. Keep standing for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and oh yeah, Free Tibet

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 08:07 collapse

It’s crazy to me that the Tankies don’t even believe Tibet is being oppressed. Like, they really don’t even know about it.

Some random images, some less relevant than others:

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JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jan 2025 01:30 next collapse

I’m surprised they hadn’t already

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 06:17 next collapse

Probably not the best plan by China, with little under 3 weeks until Trump…

China: It’s only for Dual-Use items!

Trump-US: Oh no, you said Boeing, so no more Airliner parts.

Prior_Industry@lemmy.world on 03 Jan 2025 08:14 collapse

And risk pissing off Elon Musks boss?

etuomaala@sopuli.xyz on 03 Jan 2025 08:41 collapse

Please sanction us more, China. Nothing would make me happier than a total economic disconnection from your genocidal state. We normally have to work very hard to accomplish this.