Chinese factory worker sets fire to textile plant over 800 yuan in unpaid wages (rfa.org)
from Pro@programming.dev to world@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 00:04
https://programming.dev/post/30901392

A Chinese factory employee set fire to a textile plant in China’s southwestern Sichuan province in his frustration over unpaid wages of just 800 yuan (or US$111), according to videos posted on social media and eyewitness accounts shared with Radio Free Asia.

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walktheplank@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 00:05 next collapse

This is how you do it!

mavu@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 May 2025 00:34 collapse

We (the west) often look at the chinese with some amount of arrogance about them being “peasants”.
Truth is, Winnie Pooh has to take some care, because they will fuck things up if their situation gets worse instead of better.

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 00:59 next collapse

I mean, people who think the Chinese people are just ‘peasants’ tend to be pretty goddamn ignorant.

Systems are difficult to oppose in every society. We’re all just trying to get by.

OmegaLemmy@discuss.online on 24 May 2025 04:51 next collapse

ignorant is too light, I say racism, say whatever you want about china, if you see Chinese people as peasants you’re a racist POS

comfy@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 05:05 next collapse

I see plenty of typical* Americans on the streets who can barely plot their own country on a world map. At some point, it is an actual lack of information, ignorance, whether by their environment or their own disinterest, rather than some racial or nationalist prejudice. It’s offensive and stupid, and shouldn’t be excused, but sometimes I think it isn’t even racism. Or, at least, their own racism - it’s still the effect of a nationalist exceptionalist government and culture, so racism is still relevant to their ignorance regardless of what their own opinions, morals and character might be.

Now, all that said, there are millions who are just racist pieces of shit who know better. So fuck them.

* I know the country isn’t homogeneous and there is no typical American, but I’m not talking about just super rural folk or the centers of cities

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 05:08 collapse

The vast majority of people saying Chinese people are ‘peasants’ are racist, but if someone told me that they met someone in Fuckknowswhereville, USA, who genuinely thought that mainland China was still struggling under a feudal regime, living hand-to-mouth with villages of illiterates who lacked the educational tools to organize against their overlords, and was genuinely overjoyed to hear the contrary, that the Qing Dynasty had fallen and that China entered the modern world, rather than disbelieving or dismissive… well, I’ve heard too many innocently stupid opinions from my fellow Americans about international issues to reject that out of hand.

Admittedly, being from Fuckknowswhereville, USA, also greatly increases the chance of them being horrifically racist pieces of shit.

neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 May 2025 16:05 collapse

But that was absolutely the same for peasants? Which then would make it accurate again to call them oppressed peasants?

anzo@programming.dev on 24 May 2025 19:44 next collapse

That’s not the defining characterisric for peasants, you pawn :p

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 23:16 collapse

“Peasant” has much more wide-reaching connotations than just powerlessness.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 15:52 next collapse

Nothing wrong with being a peasant, in this context: History is full of peasant revolts. People in the European middle ages were perfectly aware of how the system was stacked against them. Arguably, more than they’re now.

anzo@programming.dev on 24 May 2025 19:47 collapse

Peasants? In one of the top capitalist countries?? Haha, good one… They certainly have farms, but that’s just one end of the production …

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 00:18 next collapse

Milton, is that you?

Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 04:59 collapse

I believe you have my stapler

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 00:50 next collapse

“just 800 yuan (or US$111)”

“just”

Fuck man, I’d go ballistic over $111 of unpaid wages, and that’s probably a bigger chunk of that employee’s monthly wages than mine.

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tal@lemmy.today on 24 May 2025 02:57 next collapse

www.erieri.com/salary/job/factory-worker/china

The average pay for a Factory Worker is CNY 58,959 a year and CNY 28 an hour in China.

That’d be 26 hours at average factory wage, according to this site. I don’t think that it’s likely more than a week, if that.

Kekzkrieger@feddit.org on 24 May 2025 04:20 next collapse

With west you mean usa? Most of Europe gets paid on a monthly basis.

neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 May 2025 15:59 collapse

Most payments in China are monthy, not weekly/bi-weekly as with in the west.

Where in “the west” do you live? My paychecks (Switzerland) are definitely monthly.

Obi@sopuli.xyz on 25 May 2025 06:49 collapse

I only ever heard of North Americans getting paid weekly/bi-weekly as standard.

MisterFrog@lemmy.world on 27 May 2025 13:49 collapse

A bunch of Europeans in this comment section forgetting there are more “western” countries than just western Europe and the USA/north America.

Fortnightly is the most common in Australia, with some people paid monthly also (depends on the company).

And thankful for this. Monthly sounds terrible

Obi@sopuli.xyz on 27 May 2025 15:00 collapse

Notice how I specifically talked about places I heard of, never claimed I knew of every country. And I don’t really care one way or another myself tbh, I guess monthly mostly serves to reduce paperwork. More frequent sounds like it might better as the employee.

False@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 02:23 collapse

My first reaction was “That’s not very much - guess they should have paid him!”

throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 03:57 collapse

I doubt they actually owe ¥800 in total, because they could have just pay 99 other workers ¥8 less and can still pay this person ¥792, this way, the factory owner only owes ¥8 to 100 different individuals rather than oweing ¥800 to one individual. I doubt someone is gonna do arson for ¥8 delayed payment.

So I assume they probably owe other employees as well. Just to illustrate:

If they owe ¥800 to 100 employees, each.

That’s ¥80 000 Yuan/RMB ≈ $11 140 USD

A lot of debt.

rhvg@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 00:52 next collapse

They will not probably see the sun for the rest of life.

DrFistington@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 01:00 next collapse

Fuck yeah. Ask them if it was worth it now. You were going to live as a wage slave regardless.

x00z@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 01:41 next collapse

I think that’s at least a week’s work.

throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 01:59 next collapse

Proletariat Uprising

Power to the people!

To quote the CCP (which is ironic, given they are the oppressors): “革命无罪,造反有理!” (Revolution is not a Crime, Rebellion is Just!)

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 24 May 2025 02:32 next collapse

We've come full circle.

venusaur@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 02:37 next collapse

800 yuan to this person could be equivalent to the entire factory for the company

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 02:43 next collapse

We should all strive to be more like this man.

carlossurf@lemmy.ca on 24 May 2025 02:58 next collapse

Winnie the pooh probably gonna torture this dude

Hadriscus@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 03:14 next collapse

that’s the spirit chinese bromrade

LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 03:20 next collapse

Hell yah

orcrist@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 03:23 next collapse

Just $11? Just? If you need that money, then it’s a lot of money to you. But capitalists always use double speak. They could have said that the company was trying to stiff him over a mere $111, which would have been 0.000001% of the company’s operating costs.

theherk@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 03:31 next collapse

Pay that man his money.

Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 May 2025 04:08 next collapse

If the CCP’s all about championing the humble worker then surely they’ll approve of this guy’s actions, right?

OmegaLemmy@discuss.online on 24 May 2025 04:50 next collapse

CCP shuts down alternative unions and prevents any left wing demonstrations, it’s ironic, you don’t have to fall into a party line when you’re not a party member yet they’re being hunted down as if they just broke the rules of centralised democracy democratic centralism

barsoap@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 15:48 next collapse

centralised democracy

I think you mean democratic centralism.

“Centralised democracy” I think would make sense when contrasting parliamentarian vs. direct democracy. None of the ML parties ever implemented democratic centralism but bureaucratic centralism (ie. party leaders decide, base follows). It was never intended to be an organisation principle for a whole country, just a party, OTOH it’s a neat way to dress up autocracy as democracy so of course it’s been done plenty of times.

Lenin described the SPD as democratically centralist and well, yes, maybe back then. The structures are still in place but the whole party is paralysed when it comes to making decisions so in the end the Seeheimer rule, i.e. the neoliberal wing. It’s a rather perverse situation: An actually still lefty base, or at least union people, following a neoliberal vanguard with red paintjob.

OmegaLemmy@discuss.online on 25 May 2025 08:38 collapse

Yea brain fart, good catch

neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 May 2025 15:58 collapse

it’s ironic, you don’t have to fall into a party line when you’re not a party member yet they’re being hunted down as if they just broke the rules of centralised democracy

It’s because you just broke the rules of dictatorship ;P

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 05:03 next collapse

Surely they’d prefer workers to go through official channels so the owner of the factory can be prosecuted, not act alone and go on adventurist rampages. They’re not anarchists lol

rockerface@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 05:24 next collapse

From the article:

Police, however, said the claim that “800 yuan in wages were owed” was false, and that the company was in the process of approving payment of 5,370 yuan in wages. It blamed the factory fire on the arsonist’s suicidal thoughts, and said police would deal strictly with those spreading rumors.

So the “official channels” would just tell him unpaid wages don’t exist

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 06:00 collapse

What about the ACFTU? Or one of the labour inspectorates? Going to police is the first step, but it’s hardly the only official channel.

The education system clearly failed to prepare this worker for what they should do if their boss steals their wages, but there were definitely other options besides going all propaganda of the deed on the factory. I certainly sympathize with them though!

Lumiluz@slrpnk.net on 24 May 2025 17:23 collapse

You know what’s funny, is that on Voyager, you can’t instantly see what instance someone is registered too unless you tap on the username or respond, but I could still tell your tankie ass was from .ml before doing any of that.

PS: hilarious that someone with a username pun of communist is defending the capitalist business owner so hard too

rockerface@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 18:16 next collapse

Even other .ml users in the thread are praising the worker. You can’t make this shit up.

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 18:26 collapse

defending the capitalist business owner

I did no such thing, don’t accuse me of defending some bougie piece of shit for stealing wages.

I’m just saying, the solution isn’t to destroy productive capacity or go on an individualistic adventure. It solves nothing and now those other workers just lost their jobs.

There were other steps that could have been taken. If they had exhausted every avenue then maybe an adventure is all that’s left, but I just don’t think that’s what happened here.

And if adventure is the only hope, at least just target the boss and don’t take way peoples’ work opportunities.

throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 06:56 collapse

Official Channels

So same as an US-American petitioning trump? 🤣

so the owner of the factory can be prosecuted, not act alone and go on adventurist rampages

I guess you oppose burning teslas? Bootlick much?

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 06:59 next collapse

So same as an US-American petitioning trump? 🤣

What if I told you that the US and China are different countries and that they have different governments?

I guess you oppose burning teslas? Bootlick much?

I oppose adventurism.

People should be organized and follow democratic centralism, parties and unions and organizations and such. They shouldn’t just go off on whatever adventure pops in their head because they’re mad at some rich guy for being a piece of shit.

Again, that shit is for anarchists, and in case you haven’t noticed they haven’t been very historically successful.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 09:29 collapse

Have you lit a factory on fire or are you a bootlicker too?

Noodle07@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 20:56 collapse

Stakanov found a lighter

OmegaLemmy@discuss.online on 24 May 2025 04:48 next collapse

Ummm, based?

bappity@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 05:40 next collapse

BASED

ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 24 May 2025 08:39 next collapse

A quick peek at the article doesn’t show any fatalities/injuries, so based?

Rivalarrival@lemmy.today on 25 May 2025 07:46 collapse

No fatalities/injuries means the management team hasn’t learned a thing. So, cringe.

literallyacat@lemmy.ml on 24 May 2025 10:24 next collapse

What a king

IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 10:33 next collapse

The Pingshan county police confirmed an incident of arson and said the arsonist had been detained at the scene of the fire.

A better way to do it is to wait a couple of weeks, burn the place down so it looked like a naturally occurring fire, and not get caught.

in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 May 2025 10:36 next collapse

Meanwhile most Americans who are forced to work full time with no paid vacation or healthcare instead go off and say, “I don’t pay attention to politics, it’s depressing. I’m just gonna work on myself,” as they accept never being able to afford their dream vacation, their own home, or that new truck they desperately need.

assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 10:38 next collapse

Based

markovs_gun@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 10:50 next collapse

Idk. On one hand I really appreciate the energy but on the other hand this is kind of fucked up for everyone else that works there, and I assume there were people inside when he did this. Like what are all his coworkers going to do for work now that the factory is burned down? I know that’s part of why capitalism sucks but it’s not like they can do anything about it as individuals.

Lumiluz@slrpnk.net on 24 May 2025 17:20 next collapse

Assumption they were getting paid considering he wasn’t

ryathal@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 21:12 next collapse

There’s plenty of other factories that might even pay their workers.

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works on 24 May 2025 22:54 next collapse

what are all his co-workers going to do

form a union?

markovs_gun@lemmy.world on 25 May 2025 00:05 next collapse

Usually that works best before you burn the factory down

Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml on 25 May 2025 05:29 collapse

They’re already in a union, this is China. All companies over a certain size are unionized by law.

TassieTosser@aussie.zone on 24 May 2025 23:14 collapse

Burn down the executive’s houses?

Rivalarrival@lemmy.today on 25 May 2025 07:47 next collapse

Burn down the executive~~'s houses?~~.

FTFY.

harmsy@lemmy.world on 25 May 2025 07:54 collapse

Cave Johnson made a lemon for that.

DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz on 24 May 2025 14:30 next collapse

Note that RFA is mentioned as a very bad source in other communities.

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 21:15 collapse

RFA is a literal CIA propaganda outlet. Like directly created and funded by the CIA to spread anti China propaganda.

…wikipedia.org/…/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a…

Radio Free Asia (RFA) was a news agency operated from 1951 to 1955 by the Central Intelligence Agency, through the Committee for Free Asia, to broadcast anti-Communist propaganda.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works on 25 May 2025 01:28 collapse

Well China is more or less state capitalist now so… Based CIA?

I don’t know if I’m joking or not, I hate both the CIA and China so whatever.

JoeKis@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 14:56 next collapse

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TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 15:24 next collapse

Fight back!

frog_brawler@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 17:39 next collapse

Should have given him his $111

wanderwisley@lemm.ee on 24 May 2025 20:11 next collapse

My dear overworked and underpaid fellow Americans please take notes…

ShittDickk@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 23:08 next collapse

Guess who the Chinese government will punish now (hint: it wont be the workers)

FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world on 24 May 2025 23:12 next collapse

Should have just given the man his stapler.

TassieTosser@aussie.zone on 24 May 2025 23:14 collapse

Where’s his picture so we can canonized him like St Luigi.