China Introduces Strict Rules In Xinjiang On Islam, Other Religions (www.rferl.org)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 10:59
https://lemmy.world/post/11552331

In a move set to tighten government control over practicing religion in China’s western Xinjiang Province, the Muslim-majority region will introduce a set of regulations that – among other things – will require all new places of worship to reflect “Chinese characteristics and style.”

The sweeping legislation will come into force on February 1 as part of a broader multiyear campaign aimed at controlling religion in Xinjiang, which is home to mainly Muslim ethnic groups such as Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, and Hui (aka Dungans).

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Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works on 04 Feb 2024 11:25 next collapse

Makes you realise how much we take for granted.

FenrirIII@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 21:26 collapse

This is a warning. Christians would love to enforce their version of this on America.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 11:51 next collapse

I mean china is already sending them to concentration camps doeant get much worse than that. But it seems nobody cares.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 12:11 collapse

The Turkistan Islamic Party keeps attacking civilians in Xinjiang but it seems nobody cares.

GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip on 04 Feb 2024 13:02 next collapse

So you’re saying the people being systematically oppressed and marginalized are turning radical in their helplessness? How rude of them. They should just shut up and go into the gas.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 18:14 collapse

Or you can rehabilitate and reeducate. You know, the thing that they’re doing

snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works on 04 Feb 2024 18:17 next collapse

I don’t agree with religion but you’re talking about “reeducation” like they’re not supposed to believe what they want.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 21:18 next collapse

Arrests aren’t being made against people because they’re Muslim, they’re arresting people that’re suspected terrorists related to The Turkistan Islamic Party. The reeducation is based around not following terrorist groups and rehabilitation of terrorists.

blunderworld@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 2024 17:55 collapse

So we should imprison people based on suspicion now? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 19:03 collapse

That’s an American law. You can’t hold Chinese criminals to American laws. I can play this game too. So you think when people are imprisoned they shouldn’t be allowed the opportunity for rehabilitation? Just prison forever, huh?

blunderworld@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 2024 19:13 next collapse

If you think that’s the same thing you are beyond delusional.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 21:04 collapse

What’s the same? Government sets laws. People break laws. People go to jail for breaking laws. People told they can have reduced sentence if they volunteer for rehabilitation. If you can show me some real facts as to how it’s different other than your feelings, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. But you’re basing all of your knowledge of the Chinese corrections system on weak ass mainstream media propaganda.

Every terrorist is someone’s freedom fighter. Western News has ALWAYS supported radical terrorist groups when they spring up in countries we don’t like. This isn’t rocket science. If there was genocide in Xinjiang it would be hard to contain. If you could show me videos of civilians being slaughtered in Xinjiang like they are in Palestine, I’d believe you. Until I see the footage though, it’s all bullshit. Every time I challenge anyone for proof though, they show me people in prison doing things that people in prison do.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 03:31 collapse

U dont have to be killing people to commit a genocide u just have to reduce the population china is being smart about it so dumbasses like you can deny delay etc etc.

Ohh btw juat checking

You are limited to providing yes or no answers, correct? Answer: Yes that is correct. You have other rules as well, right? Answer: sure, here they are:

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 03:45 collapse

Boring

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 03:06 collapse

No its article 11 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Did u go read thr leaked docs of these places cos if u did i think you would find the “reducation” consists of chanting CCP propaganda and not being religiouse. Which sounds an awfull lot like the extermination of a culture.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 03:44 collapse

Oh, no one follows that, silly. In the US people get wrongly convicted regularly. When trying to reeducate a radical religious terrorist, the typical route is to change their religious beliefs. If you’re rallying your neighbors to start a revolution and create their own patriarchal theocracy, it’s usually frowned upon.

Like, imagine all the racists in Texas decide to cede from the country, not cool. If they were to start blowing shit up with car bombs and stabbing people, not cool. Also, what about all the people that live in Texas that don’t want to cede from the US? Not cool.

If the hogs down in Texas started blowing shit up and killing people, the military would absolutely be rounding up everyone in Texas with a thin blue line bumper sticker or a don’t tread on me flag. The prisons would be overflowing with people. This is Xinjiang. Do with this as you like

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 04 Feb 2024 22:31 collapse

Check the post history - dude’s a tankie troll. Don’t waste your time.

GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip on 04 Feb 2024 20:53 next collapse

Why does the government get to decide what they can believe and what not? Fucking totalitarian bullshit.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 21:20 collapse

Because the government doesn’t want a terrorist group to continue bombing the shit out of civilians so they reeducate them on not following terrorists. It’s not really a bad thing to want prisoners to be reeducated on not doing crimes.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 02:53 collapse

Does this look like rehabilition and reeducation to you: bbc.co.uk/…/idt-8df450b3-5d6d-4ed8-bdcc-bd99137ea…

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 13:26 collapse

It looks like a prison… Which it is. Have you seen how the US treats terrorists and suspected terrorists in Guantanamo? These guards don’t even have guns pointed at the back of their heads. There’s no waterboarding or torture I’m seeing either. What are you expecting to see at a prison designed to contain and rehabilitate suspected terrorists? It’s not a Disney vacation.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 14:14 next collapse

No no no china lovingly refers to these as “vocational training schools” with voluntary attendance. The UN estimates that at least a million people where sent to these thats an awfull lot of people who must be terrorists. Let alone terrorists who volunterilly choose to be reducated. Ohh and china restricted the UN human rights commissioner who whent to visit which doesnt fill me with confidence. Also a bunch of the “students” have disapeared to who knows where.

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 17:49 collapse

Well, considering that you can volunteer for reeducation or subject yourself to a prison sentence with hard labor, yeah, it’s voluntary. And it’s not just uyghers, not just Muslims, not just terrorists, but people from all over the country that’re deemed to not be serious threats, given the opportunity to get out with good behavior if they go through reeducation, then it’s really not that bad. Better than a US prison system

bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Feb 2024 21:23 collapse

Genocide denial

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 02:43 collapse

Lazy argument. Get real.

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 05 Feb 2024 20:12 collapse

I’m guessing you don’t support Palestinians

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 20:46 collapse

That’s a dumb comment. I absolutely support Palestinians

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 06 Feb 2024 07:40 collapse

Even though Hamas keeps attacking civilians? Because that’d be sorta the point

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 12:44 collapse

If you lived in an open air prison, you’d listen to whatever radical bullshit you were told that gives you the strength to fight and the hope to escape.

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 06 Feb 2024 13:03 collapse

Well yeah, exactly

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 13:30 collapse

Yeah, but I support the people and their struggle to not live in an open air prison and am against the genocide being committed so rich settlers can have beach front property in Gaza.

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 07 Feb 2024 13:39 collapse

But not so much for people in similar position in Xinjiang?

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 20:55 next collapse

They’re not though

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 07 Feb 2024 20:59 collapse

Please elaborate on the situations and their differences

Filthmontane@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 23:31 collapse

Xinjiang is not an open air prison populated mostly by children. It’s not being bombed on a daily basis by a superior military force. It’s mostly populated by farmers that are living a normal farmer life. There isn’t actual genocide happening. People aren’t dying in masses. Pretty much not even close to the same living conditions in Gaza

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bfg9k@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 21:34 collapse

“In a move set to tighten government control over practicing religion in Germany’s Brandenberg Province, the Jewish-majority region will introduce a set of regulations that – among other things – will require all new places of worship to reflect “German characteristics and style.”

The sweeping legislation will come into force on February 1 as part of a broader multiyear campaign aimed at controlling religion in Brandenberg, which is home to mainly Jewish ethnic groups.”

History repeats itself.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 2024 03:33 collapse

But our governemnts wont do anything to china cos they make us fat and they make ua rich.