deddit.petersanchez.com

That seems like an awfully fast response for a missile defense system, and the IDF is defending airspace areas over Gaza too? This looks very much like a misfiring missile to me.

GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network on 19 Oct 2023 10:22 collapse

This is copium if I’ve ever seen it

derf82@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 02:38 next collapse

This seems to ignore an IDF official that initially claimed credit as well as Israeli calls to evacuate the area. I feel like if they are going to implicate a Hamas rocket, those claims should be addressed.

ultranaut@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 02:59 next collapse

There’s apparently video of the rocket according to the article so unless you are claiming it’s faked what does it matter what anyone previously claimed? There’s been a bunch of claims made by all sorts of people, what should matter is actual evidence.

derf82@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 10:32 collapse

It is an extremely dark video that they say is a rocket, but honestly, I can’t see much for myself. I see a lighted dot people say is a rocket.

I’m not saying it isn’t, but it isn’t the smoking gun the IDF wants it to be.

Bell@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 04:08 next collapse

Definitely, this needs to be explained

luthis@lemmy.nz on 19 Oct 2023 05:07 collapse

I explained half of it, just the other half now.

luthis@lemmy.nz on 19 Oct 2023 05:01 collapse

This is fake news/misinformation. You are referring to a deleted tweet, correct? Well, that guy was no official.

Here is the tweet:

twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/…/1714357150594588816

This guy is not an official, not a minister, not a spokesperson for Israel, he is a wannabe Israel fanatic. In his own words:

‘Hananya Naftali is a prominent Israeli speaker and influencer in the fight against Antisemitism, terrorism, and assault on the State of Israel.’

… a cancerous influencer.

Edit: I might have added the ‘cancerous’ part myself, just for full disclosure.

SeaJ@lemm.ee on 19 Oct 2023 06:42 next collapse

According to Naftali’s website, he has worked for Netanyahu for five years.

Hananya has been working for Prime Minister Netanyahu in his digital team for the past 5 years.

www.hnaftali.com

While not a spokesperson exactly, definitely more than just an influencer.

BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social on 19 Oct 2023 14:58 collapse

The core point is that he's essentially a moronic propagandist, not an official spokesman making press releases for the IDF.

An Israeli Candace Owens, basically. Yeah, he works for Bibi, but it's not like he has access to IDF intel or is speaking for them.

SeaJ@lemm.ee on 19 Oct 2023 19:46 collapse

Owens did not work for Trump though. His job is actually to spin stories in a pro-Israel light. How much access to IDF intelligence he has, we do not know but he is certainly closer to Netanyahu in a work capacity than Owens was to Trump.

Not saying that we should take his Tweet as 100% proof that Israel did the strike but it should also not completely be discounted. It most definitely was not an air strike like Hamas has stated.

derf82@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 10:37 collapse

He worked for the PM. He is a bit more than a mere influencer. This isn’t the Israeli Jake Paul, but closer to the Israeli Kayleigh McEnany.

But the larger point is, don’t publish an article saying “here is all the evidence” then not publish the evidence the other side is pointing to, not even to disprove it.

transistor@lemdro.id on 19 Oct 2023 14:28 next collapse

What evidence does those tweets provide?

derf82@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 14:50 collapse

It is a clear claim from a source with high level connections with the Israeli government. If it is so clearly false, why not provide reasons it is false?

luthis@lemmy.nz on 19 Oct 2023 18:45 collapse

He did actually provide reasons, why is everyone so averse to the quickest search?? It was literally the second link on the page:

hitc.com/…/hananya-naftali-apologises-for-hospita…

derf82@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 21:15 collapse

The article that claims to have all the evidence should do that. And him changing his story isn’t the most convincing. It also says a lot about how despicable he and other Israelis are that they would rush to celebrate the bombing of a hospital as a great victory and immediately want to claim credit.

Hamas is evil. So is the Israeli government.

luthis@lemmy.nz on 19 Oct 2023 22:00 collapse

If only everyone could realise that instead of picking sides.

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 16:24 next collapse

Yes, I’m sure a guy who has works on the “digital team” of a politician has the inside knowledge of what air strikes the military has made.

derf82@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2023 21:16 collapse

Way more than the average citizen, absolutely.

PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee on 20 Oct 2023 05:06 collapse

And the PM is a fascist who should be in jail, so…

luthis@lemmy.nz on 19 Oct 2023 02:48 collapse

And this one:

bellingcat.com/…/identifying-possible-crater-from…