from Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2024 19:32
https://lemmy.world/post/12814780
The Houthis claimed responsibility for the attack on Wednesday, which set the Greek-owned, Barbados-flagged ship True Confidence ablaze approximately 50 nautical miles (93km) off the coast of Yemen’s port of Aden.
“The targeting operation came after the ship’s crew rejected warning messages from the Yemeni naval forces,” the militia’s military spokesman Yahya Sarea said in a televised speech.
The True Confidence is owned by the Liberian-registered company True Confidence Shipping and operated by the Greece-based Third January Maritime, both firms said in their joint statement. They said the ship had no link to the US.
However, it had previously been owned by Oaktree Capital Management, a Los Angeles-based fund that finances vessels on instalments.
The Houthis “will not stop until the aggression is stopped and the siege on the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip is lifted”, Saree said.
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Fuck the Houthis.
I would like to congratulate the Houthis on becoming the very monster they claim to be fighting. They’ve indiscriminately killed innocent people who are directly unrelated to the Israeli genocide of Gaza. Just like Israel, who is indiscriminately killing innocent people who are directly unrelated to the Hamas attack on Oct 7. Both groups even gave warnings and act like that’s sufficient.
Are we positive that Netanyahu isn’t secretly funding or boosting the Houthis?
Maybe we can ask Biden to bomb Yemen some more and Netanyahu to starve people in Gaza harder that sure seems to work.
Oh Linkerbaan, there you are. Unable to comprehend that two wrongs don’t make a right. Every. Single. Time.
There you are to defend international law as long as it isn’t israel violating it. Every. Single. Time.
There you are doing the same pivot. Never defended Israel so why are you saying that? It’s not binary
Very common here
Linkerbaan is almost certainly a Russian agent.
Maybe. They most certainly have monological worldview. Every statement is distilled down to a binary prism of logical deductions. It’s either A or B. There is no other alternative.
If it’s right for the Houthis to do this to try and stop the Palestinian genocide, that would also make it right for Israel to commit genocide to try and stop Hamas. And it should be clear by now that we both agree Israel is not right to do so whatsoever.
Hamas indiscriminately killing innocent people didn’t solve the problem. Israel indiscriminately killing innocent people isn’t solving the problem. So why would the Houthis indiscriminately killing people solve the problem?
None of this is an actual solution.
They’re using their sovereign rights to blockade their waters. I don’t care about the demonization or the disruption of shipping. They’re putting themselves in the sights of the US out of sheer empathy. Which gives me hope.
They are not blockading ‘their waters’. They are murdering civilians in international waters. Because of this, we will continue to diminish their ability and destroy the murderers involved in these attacks.
They’ve killed two people out of quite a sizable number of attacks. Deeply unfortunate anyone died, but it speaks to the fact they’re trying to avoid civilian casualties. They have the courage to stand up to the US backed genocide of Gaza, because not long ago, they faced similar odds in the US backed, Saudi destruction of Yemen.
The ship they attacked is the True Confidence, a ship registered in Liberia and operated by Greece. The crew members were Indian, Vietnamese, and Filipino. The vessel had been sailing to Saudi Arabia from China.
Where did you get the idea any of this has to do with Israel or the US? You don’t get to just murder random people and claim it is for some cause. The Houthis have become the monster they claim to fight.
from their leader and troops
sorry bud but if you’re really going to equate the death of two people to a genocide you lost me there.
Are you out of your fucking mind? Should everyone go around killing random sailors because there are genocides happening in the world. What are in flying fuck are you smoking
Those waters aren’t safe. They are free to circumnavigate
They are not. Many of these sailors have barely any agency in their lives, and certainly can’t just tell a multinational corporation they’re taking the long route
You want them to circumnavigate the ENTIRE CONTINENT OF AFRICA because a bunch of rebels are vying for political clout? Where were the Houthis when 100k people were being genocided right next door in Syria? Oh that’s right. That genocide doesnt matter, huh?
You mean while they were under complete siege and 80,000 died? You wanted them to attack their allies and also take on mass starvation/bombing raids from Saudi Arabia 😆
No, I want to see how consistent they are on the principle of genocide or if it’s only the more popular ones which give them more clout.
In your world -if you have any logical consistency- ANY country has free reign to attack ANY civilian trade vessels in international waters on behalf of a genocide happening somewhere. Stop and think about that for a second.
It just happens that the Houthis align with condemning this one particular genocide in Gaza so people like you come on and glaze for a bunch of disgusting people that are violating human rights in their own country left and right all day long but because Gaza is so hot in the news now it’s convenient to defend the Houthis actions. It’s sick and disgusting.
If the Houthi’s truly told them to turn around it’s rather weird they decided to just continue after being warned.
Yeah, it’s really weird that operators of cargo frigates have to incur really high operating costs and have to weigh the risk/benefits of rerouting along THE ENTIRE CONTINENT OF AFRICA. Hmmm. It’s like these people depend on paychecks for their living. So weird!
Also, these people have nothing to do with the ongoing conflict in Israel. They are just sailors trying to earn a living.
And before you dare say it: I’m not defending Israel. Let me repeat: NOT. DEFENDING. ISRAEL. Israel no good. Israel: BAD. IDF: BAD. Houthi?? Also bad.
Israel warned civilians before bombing the shit out of them. Why didn’t they just evacuate? /s
This is no excuse. The Houthis just killed a bunch of innocent brown people because the brown people refused to heed their warning of violence. If we condemn Israel for that, we must condemn the Houthis for that as well.
You’re right those ships had nowhere else to go but through the designated Red Sea evacuation route. They were literally forced there. It was an ethnic shipping cleansing.
You’re not trying to avoid civilian casualties if you fire on civilians.
Civilians they told to turn back. Its a single ship not an entire landmass. They immobilized most ships and ceased fire. That’s not some kind of unrestrained bloodlust.
Firing a Mach 4 missile with 1,300 lbs of warhead at civilians is, in fact, unrestrained bloodlust. They ceased fire because it would be wasteful to fire again.
That’s like saying, “The cop didn’t dump a second magazine into the man who didn’t respond to the cop’s commands. He showed restraint! The guy is still breathing, he’s just immobilized!”
Israel told Palestinian civilians to seek shelter and that bombs were incoming. Does that absolve them of killing so many innocent people?
Of course not. Same goes here.
Israel told them to go to safe spots, such as refugee shelters or the Rafah crossing. The bombed both anyways. Not only does it take significantly more time to evacuate 2 million people, they had no where to evacuate to. This ship and the employers had an option, go through a passageway where they were explicitly warned they would be fired upon or turn back. They chose to ignore explicit orders believing the US had more control and could grant them safe passage. That’s not remotely comparable.
It’s not in any way defensible for the Houthis however.
That’s bullshit. When you fire explosives at a crewed ship, you are trying to, or willing to kill them. It doesn’t matter how successful you are
They don’t care about any genocide anywhere and the fact that you’ve bought into this narrative without question is a clear indication that your are a child.
Thanks for replying to every comment I’ve made to ensure I know that I am a ‘fucking child’. It’s the most mature display I have ever seen. You’re teaching me how to be an adult.
*You’re
Dont you have some crayons to eat?
This comment section is entertaining
Seems fair to me. All’s fair in love and war, after all.
Glad these people are fighting back however they can, although it’s sad more innocent lives are being lost because of Israel’s genocide.