Israel, stunned by Trump’s Iran deal, sees it as a ‘catastrophic capitulation’ (www.nytimes.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 13:15
https://lemmy.world/post/48323996

Israel awoke to a frightening new reality on Thursday as it absorbed, with disbelief and largely in silence, the terms of Trump’s agreement to end the war with Iran.

It is a disastrous deal from Israel’s point of view, analysts said, because it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

“It’s a bad agreement in which the Americans are paying with cash, and got, at the maximum, a letter of intent,” Yaakov Amidror, a hawkish former national security adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, said in an interview.

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gibmiser@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 13:39 next collapse

Get fucked bibi

EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 13:46 next collapse

These people wanted us to implement a draft and throw millions of Americans at Israel’s most fortified enemy in the region for peanuts. Fuck AIPAC and all other Israeli organizations that want us to fight their battles for them. We’re staying home and we’re not fighting anyone.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 15:10 collapse

That’s exactly what Israel wants: let someone else do their genocide for them.

alanjaow@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 15:37 collapse

It’s because their people are special, and shouldn’t be sent to die.

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 18 Jun 13:48 next collapse

Well, he’s not wrong.

SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip on 18 Jun 13:53 next collapse

Good. Fuck ‘em.

nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 13:55 next collapse

They’re begging for Biden back lmfao

The truth hurts.

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mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 14:06 next collapse

I don’t know why they abandonned the “if israel did not exists, we had to create one” guy

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 14:17 collapse

Because Trump went along with what the Democrats wouldn’t.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 14:29 collapse

Wat do you think this was for?

war.gov/…/largest-us-israeli-exercise-in-history-…

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 14:37 next collapse

To project strength, instead of actually starting a war.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 15:28 collapse

Please don’t tell me that you truely believe this bullshit.

kandoh@reddthat.com on 18 Jun 16:04 collapse

The Millenium exercise was 26 years ago.

The Israelis have been trying to get the Americans to invade Iran since 1980 with the same song and dance, only Trump was stupid enough to listen.

If you think President Harris would’ve fallen for it, that’s just bias confirmation on your part.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 16:54 collapse

Why would I trust Harris who said she will not change anything in how Biden was dealing with the genocide and claimed that she worked tirelessly for a cease fire which was a lie? You guys are just dumb cultist not any better than trump and republican cultists. Fuck all the fake anti Israel people on lemmy.

Rubio admitted that Israel would have gone alone if the USA refused. We all know deep down that even if the USA did not enter the war they would still provide the resources to Israel to try to destroy Iran and we all know Iran would retaliate on American military bases too so america will be forced to join.

Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 17:09 next collapse

We should always believe what Rubio says because he would never lie to us. Can’t decide if you are naive, thick, duplicitous or some combination of the three.

Never forget, it was Israeli “intelligence” regarding “WMDs” that got GW Bush to start his disastrous invasion of Iraq. Israel are not allies of the USA, they are the USA’s greatest threat and history will likely view them as their manipulation of US foreign policy as the reason for the downfall of the American empire.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 17:18 collapse

You are so dumb that is is laughable . Yes Israel was participating in manufacturing consent for the war on Iraq but the war was going to happen with or without it. The war on Iraq was primary about America imperialist interests The mastermind of the war was always Dick Cheney to enrich himself and his companies, to control of Iraq resources and enrichment to military industrial complex . You are the cultist who believe your poor shitty country never hold no responsibility that it is always the fault of other countries and foreign influences.

You should read about how the region was important for empires for a millennium before spewing the bullshit of how the USA has no imperialist interests in supporting Israel and destroying Iran

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 17:17 collapse

Biden did not invade Iran, do you really think Netanyahu suddenly got that Idea after Trump became president?

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 17:30 collapse

No i don’t think Netanyahu got the idea just after trump became president. He wanted to go to the war for decades but he couldn’t because of the circumstances which significally changed in 2024. Israel realized that they got away with the genocide in Gaza enables by both Biden and Trump then they got a fake cease fire with Lebanon making them thinking it is the end of Hezbollah. The next logical step is to go to the head of the “snake” Iran. It was the perfect opportunity.

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 15:39 collapse

An exercise? Your evidence that Biden would have been more in line with Israel’s plans than Trump is that they did an exercise in an area of the world where the US is constantly starting shit and “needs” to be prepared for the next time they start shit?

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jun 16:56 collapse

Why a proud Zionist like Biden enabling the genocide like trump would not be as much in line with Israel’s plan as Trump?

Yes an exercise leading to this war like the Russian exercise leading to the invasion of Ukraine Zapad-2021 and Union Resolve 2022

Wataba@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jun 16:17 collapse

What truth? Dumbfuck anarchist sockpuppet. Get fucked.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 14:18 next collapse

it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

Arguably?
Haha Israel you done fucked up this time. 🤡 🤣

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 18 Jun 14:44 next collapse

It is a disastrous deal from Israel’s point of view, analysts said, because it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

I like how they just expect the American government to just prioritize their interests over its own. Like "this is a bad deal because it hurts Israel" then you should've fucking shown up when they were negotiating the deal you dingus.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 15:09 next collapse

Who said this whole thing was about accomplishing Israels war goals?

frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io on 18 Jun 15:11 next collapse

Why? They can keep bombing whoever they want. Did they not anticipate a loss of focus from the ballroom guy?

Flower@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jun 15:33 next collapse

They put their money on the idiot just starting a war, ignoring the warnings this could hang people out to dry, and now they’re shocked he can just stop the war leaves certain people hanging out to dry.

SoloCritical@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 16:20 next collapse

Oh shit Israel is unhappy with the deal guys! We gotta start bombing again! Sorry!!

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe on 18 Jun 16:31 collapse

Oh no how unfortunate.