Russia finds vast oil and gas reserves in British Antarctic territory (www.telegraph.co.uk)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 14 May 2024 21:24
https://lemmy.world/post/15408615

Reserves 10 times the North Sea’s output raise fears over drilling in protected region

Russia has found vast oil and gas reserves in the Antarctic, much of it in areas claimed by the UK.

The surveys are a prelude to bringing in drilling rigs to exploit the pristine region for fossil fuels, MPs have warned.

Reserves totalling 511bn barrels of oil – about 10 times the North Sea’s entire 50-year output – have been reported to Moscow by Russian research ships, according to evidence given to the Commons Environment Audit Committee (EAC) last week.

It follows a series of surveys by the Alexander Karpinsky vessel, operated by Rosgeo – the Russian agency charged with finding mineral reserves for commercial exploitation.

Antarctica is meant to be protected by the 1959 Antarctic Treaty that bans all mineral or oil developments. The UK’s interests are overseen by the Foreign Office – but it has been accused of ignoring the emerging crisis.

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Bookmeat@lemmy.world on 14 May 2024 21:41 next collapse

Why are people doing resource exploration in protected areas? >___>

tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 May 2024 21:52 next collapse

Capitalism demands it

Bookmeat@lemmy.world on 14 May 2024 21:54 next collapse

😔

UsernameHere@lemmings.world on 14 May 2024 22:12 collapse

Is Russia capitalist?

Maeve@kbin.social on 14 May 2024 22:55 next collapse

Obviously

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 14 May 2024 23:34 next collapse

For over 30 years

Beetschnapps@lemmy.world on 15 May 2024 02:33 next collapse

You have to understand “capitalist” in this case means “I’m in high school and someone looks greedy”.

Like, there’s nuance and then there’s “everyone who is not an anarcho-socialist-utopian-solar-punk-revolutionary is a capitalist”.

And I say this totally not defending capitalism, I’m just smart enough to see a difference between “fisher-price my first socialism” vs reality…

Having a greedy oligarchy isn’t capitalism, it can be just as bad if not worse but the idea things being different is lost on these folks… if you are going to argue that Putin taking everything for himself is just Russia being “capitalist” then you are literally telling the world “I can see lots of trees, but no forest…”

tb_@lemmy.world on 15 May 2024 05:26 next collapse

The Soviet Union was – claimed to be – communist. That is not the case for Russia.

Much like China now has incorporated many capitalist systems.

Beetschnapps@lemmy.world on 15 May 2024 12:29 next collapse

No shit. Doesn’t make them capitalists and it doesn’t make a mob boss the monopoly man. Regardless of “systems” I wouldn’t call China capitalist nor Russia and comparing them to or claiming them as such wouldn’t be accurate or even helpful really.

It’s not helpful in assessing current context or motive. But yea let’s just call em all capitalist…

zazo@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 17:18 collapse

So a state and oligarchs amassing capital isn’t capitalism but monopolic corporations amassing capital is?

Beetschnapps@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 17:22 collapse

Makes you feel better? So changing groups totally makes it all okay?

zazo@lemmy.world on 17 May 2024 13:16 collapse

Mf that’s why I’m saying both are forms of capitalism - you’re the one claiming Russia isn’t a capitalist state…

Amoxtli@thelemmy.club on 16 May 2024 21:20 collapse

No communist in America is a communist. They all want to be communist (wannabe communist, like wannabe badasses), but they are not. You are what you eat.

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febra@lemmy.world on 15 May 2024 05:49 collapse

Lol yes they’ve been turbo capitalist for some time now

RedditWanderer@lemmy.world on 14 May 2024 23:31 next collapse

Yeah they should have never been allowed to search there in the first place.

Num10ck@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 17:03 collapse

what’s 500 billion times $78?

HubertManne@kbin.social on 14 May 2024 21:46 next collapse

just great

DeadPand@midwest.social on 14 May 2024 21:52 next collapse

Pay no mind to the effect this will have on climate change if they decided to plunder this crap

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 14 May 2024 21:59 next collapse

Tally ho, time for the RN to sail to the Falklands Antarctica!

grue@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 17:36 collapse

You pretty much had it right the first time. The Falklands would likely be used as a staging area, being the closest British or allied territory to the part of Antarctica in question.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 16 May 2024 18:23 collapse

True, although with Milei being as unpredictable as he is, maybe he’d offer a port for this venture.

tal@lemmy.today on 14 May 2024 22:54 next collapse

areas claimed by the UK.

Due to Antarctic treaties, the claim should be effectively inoperative as long as the UK is a member, and Russia shouldn’t be extracting mineral resources as long as Russia is a member.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System

The Antarctic Treaty was signed in 1959 by 12 nations and came into effect in the mid-1960s. The central ideas with full acceptance were the freedom of scientific research in Antarctica and the peaceful use of the continent. There was also a consensus for demilitarization and the maintenance of the status quo. The treaty prohibits nuclear testing, military operations, economic exploitation, and territorial claims in Antarctica. It is monitored through on-site inspections. The only permanent structures allowed are scientific research stations. The original signatory countries hold voting rights on Antarctic governance, with seven of them claiming portions of the continent and the remaining five being non-claimants. Other nations have joined as consultative members by conducting significant research in Antarctica. Non-consultative parties can also adhere to the treaty. In 1991-1992, the treaty was renegotiated by 33 nations, with the main change being the Madrid Protocol on Environmental Protection, which prohibited mining and oil exploration for 50 years.[13]

en.wikipedia.org/…/Protocol_on_Environmental_Prot…

Article 7 prohibits any activity relating to mineral resources, other than scientific research.

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 14 May 2024 23:03 next collapse

Yeah, fuck it, ima go ahead and just say it:

The US should lead a vast effort by the West (broadly construed to include allies like Australia, Japan, etc.) to deploy all covert means and significant overt means, short of a shooting war, to destabilize and ultimately destroy the russian state.

Fuck russia. A million times over, then once more, for good measure, fuck russia.

Macron, Scholz: it is going to be on you to lead if the most fucktarded of my compatriots succeed in their “real men wear diapers” campaign. FFS.

russia is a cancer on the entire world.

lauha@lemmy.one on 15 May 2024 13:02 next collapse

deploy all covert means and significant overt means, short of a shooting war, to destabilize and ultimately destroy the russian state.

While they kind of maybe wanted that, they fear all the nukes getting to worse hands than they already are right now. At least Putin is sane enough to not use them, but more extreme leader might.

Grimy@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 17:38 next collapse

I’m not saying it’s a bad move, but that won’t stop drilling.

The effort should be aimed at destroying the oil industry.

lilsolar@sh.itjust.works on 16 May 2024 22:32 collapse

Mfw u say Russia is cancer but USA isn’t

Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world on 17 May 2024 10:22 collapse

That feeling when you’re so brain fucked by the cold war actions of the U.S that the Authoritarian reactionary hellscape is good apparently.

Amoxtli@thelemmy.club on 15 May 2024 00:10 next collapse

Why do they care? They want solar panels and wind turbines. Fossil fuels are killing people.

phdepressed@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 2024 03:15 next collapse

Russia is happy with a warmer world. Their land will become more temperate, they’ll get a shipping passage up north. And of course the oligarchy will get richer. Gazprom their state owned and run oil and gas companies is one of Russia’s main economic drivers.

FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today on 16 May 2024 17:20 collapse

You clearly have Russia confused with somebody else. Russia has some of the biggest natural gas operations on earth, and they’re the largest exporter of oil.

Amoxtli@thelemmy.club on 16 May 2024 21:23 collapse

Why do “they”, the British, care?

FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today on 16 May 2024 21:28 collapse

Ah, good question. They haven’t make any statements afaik. If they cooperated in extracting it then they’ll probably sell it like they would with any other commodity, Russia doesn’t really have any claim to the resources or territory even if their people discovered the deposit.

A_A@lemmy.world on 15 May 2024 01:51 next collapse

is it possible they found none but seek a way to attract investments ?

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 May 2024 13:23 next collapse

oh boy here comes the war

lemmyhavesome@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 14:09 next collapse

If we were to burn another 500 billion barrels of oil, it would be game over for the planet.

jorp@lemmy.world on 17 May 2024 00:01 next collapse

you have to start thinking quarterly. Imagine the quarterly profits

Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world on 17 May 2024 11:43 collapse

Screw the planet, just think of all the profit. ~ Oil exes probably

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world on 16 May 2024 21:11 collapse

Aren’t Russian speakers opressed in the British antartic territories?