Canadians say U.S. no longer an ally, is bigger threat than Russia: poll (globalnews.ca)
from schizoidman@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 23:59
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58 per cent of Canadians surveyed said they no longer view the U.S. as a reliable ally

Over two-thirds of Canadians said the U.S. tends to create problems for other countries rather than solve them

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ea6927d8@lemmy.ml on 20 Feb 00:22 next collapse

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rogsson@piefed.social on 20 Feb 01:10 next collapse

With this administration they’re at least screwing their own citizens as well, besides the rest of the world that is. 

D_C@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 09:39 next collapse

Incorrect.
They are ‘screwing’ kiddies and shooting their own citizens.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Feb 11:34 collapse

Democrats: Hard Neoliberalism at home, Fascism abroad.

Republicans: Fascism everywhere.

mattyroses@lemmy.today on 20 Feb 15:26 collapse

“Fascism is the tools of empire used against the homeland”

sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz on 20 Feb 02:35 next collapse

Eh, sorry bud.

mattyroses@lemmy.today on 20 Feb 15:26 collapse

I’m not your buddy, guy

BetaBlake@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 05:12 next collapse

Donald is a fucking hoser

funkajunk@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 05:16 collapse

Take off eh

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social on 20 Feb 05:55 next collapse

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lechekaflan@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 06:03 next collapse

This is the chaos and discord Putin loves to see.

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yakko@feddit.uk on 20 Feb 09:18 collapse

Well yeah, anything that weakens NATO is red meat for him. So to speak.

It’s regrettable to give Putin any comfort, but I don’t think Canadians are wrong here. The US is firmly in its ‘flailing and desperately externalising’ phase of imperial decline, and I think a GB-style “soft landing” of the American empire is too much to hope for.

johncandy1812@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 12:02 collapse

“It would be so much easier for Canada if they just agreed to join the US.”

Most threatening line from all Trump’s attacks for me. It might seem harmless but it reads: "it would be so much easier for you (for the US) if you just stop struggling.

yakko@feddit.uk on 20 Feb 12:27 collapse

I don’t say this lightly about a person, but I truly believe rape is at the very core of his being.

johncandy1812@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 13:08 next collapse

That’s exactly it

mattyroses@lemmy.today on 20 Feb 15:24 next collapse

Make America Rape Again

village604@adultswim.fan on 20 Feb 16:59 collapse

It’s because deep down he knows he’s a weak, pathetic, insignificant man and needs to hurt the most vulnerable to feel powerful.

I don’t even think he’s actually sexually attracted to children. I think he gets off on causing lifelong suffering, and the more vulnerable the person he’s breaking is, the better it feels. Children are the most vulnerable and he can do the most damage to them.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 20 Feb 08:18 next collapse

usa does things at the behest of russia and israel.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Feb 11:32 collapse

In case you haven’t notice the kinds of shit the Techbros are loudly pushing, the US most definitelly does things at the behest of its own fatcats first and foremost.

Granted, their interestest seem to be aligned in the most with mainly Israel and also partly Russia.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 11:49 next collapse

Gonna go ahead guess this is an online poll for the terminally online and not an actual indicator of the real world.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 12:47 next collapse

Nah, as a Canadian I genuinely feel like the US is a larger global threat than Russia. The US has a larger economy, a better military, and a less functional authoritarian government. Say what you will about Putin and his authoritarianism… At least he knows what the fuck he’s doing. Trump and his entire administration are fucking unhinged morons. Not to mention if Russia decided to invade us we’d have dozens of countries coming to our defence.

I can’t say the same if the USA did. I would hope Article 5 would enact and the US could never win a war on 4 fronts. But I’m not confident.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 12:51 collapse

Putin’s goals are irrelevant because the entire Russian state is paralyzed by vranyo. From the generals faking reports to the shills faking ‘victories’ online, you’ve lied to yourselves so much that you’ve accidentally built a military that only works on paper. It’s not a war machine; it’s a theater troupe that’s currently being exposed as incompetent on a global stage.

–gonna be using AI to respond to russian shills from hereon

deeferg@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 13:29 next collapse

All of their points were very true and have absolutely been considered by all Canadians lately. Some feel more strongly than others, but a lot have expressed their hatred towards the US.

Russia never made targeted threats at our sovereignty. The US has been doing nothing but that for over a year now.

If you want to use an LLM and waste a bunch of energy to respond to someone making a valid point, go for it, just kind of ends up being another reminder of how ignorant Americans can be to anything they don’t have the capacity to understand.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 13:36 collapse

The US being a ‘threat’ is a separate conversation for people who care. The conversation here is that Russia is a global parasite. Their only exports are corruption, destabilization, and dashcam footage of their own tanks exploding. Even if they weren’t an incompetent mess—which they are—they’d still be a negative force that adds zero value to the modern world. They aren’t a ‘Great Power’; they’re a gas station with a failing army and an identity crisis.

deeferg@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 13:49 collapse

What “positive force” have the US been contributing to the rest of the world lately? At this point the two countries are exporting a lot of the same destabilization and corruption.

For that matter most of your post could be used to describe the US, with the added possibility of a civil war in the near future.

Your arguments just aren’t holding weight.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 13:58 collapse

Stop hiding behind the US. It’s a pathetic shield for a country that’s currently a global laughingstock. Whether the US has problems doesn’t change the fact that Russia is a hollowed-out gas station with a museum-grade military. The ‘World’s Second Army’ is currently begging North Korea for ammo and losing its Black Sea Fleet to a nation without a navy. That’s the reality of Russia: an incompetent, corrupt mess that provides zero value to the world.

deeferg@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 14:14 collapse

“Hiding behind the US”. Jeez your talking points are straight from the Whitehouse too.

“Russia is a hollowed out gas station, but you should totally be more afraid of them than the US” - do you see how your arguments are all over the place? I guess you’re likely still using that AI to build your responses, because your posts seem to have amnesia regarding any past point you’ve tried to make.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 14:18 collapse

As a Russian, I recognize the pattern. It is much easier to point out contradictions in others than to address the fact that our “superpower” status has devolved into being a global nuisance with an incompetent military.

You’re right—it is a strange position to be in: a gas station that can’t win its own war, yet insists on being a global player. We use the “What about America” script specifically so we don’t have to face how hollowed-out our war machine has actually become. It’s the essence of vranyo—we both know the “Great Power” image is a fiction, but we keep talking about the US to avoid the embarrassment of our own reality. I see you’ve adopted that tradition perfectly.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 16:19 collapse

As a Russian

There it is.

lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 13:47 collapse

The US will get there in time. For now, Trump is still busy squandering the momentum that the US accumulated from a century of more able administrators. It was a already a deeply flawed democracy in 2016, but it had good institutions, experts and money money money. Trump is attacking all three - and there is no organized resistance yet.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 13:54 collapse

Yep sadge for them. Doesn’t change what russia is tho.

lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 13:55 collapse

agreed.

cv_octavio@piefed.ca on 20 Feb 14:24 next collapse

Gonna say you don’t have a finger in the pulse and can’t read the room.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 14:27 next collapse

This terminally online room? I should use it to gauge the legitimacy of the poll which I criticize for being irrelevant because it was entirely online? I only guessed buddy do you mean to tell me the poll was actually taken in the real world?!

cv_octavio@piefed.ca on 20 Feb 14:41 collapse

No, but I can see how clever you must be for doin’ all that noodle-bakin’ critical thinking you’re putting into your thesis here.

I’m actually-factually talking about the friends and neighbors and family I have. The guy working the grocery store checkout. The teacher at my kids school. The girls at at the art center where my kid be volunteers on weekends. The stage director and castmates at my wife’s theater group. Preeeety much anyone I casually interact with. You literally stand out as one of the few exceptions.

Is that not online  enough for ya? Have I touched enough grass to be considered a legitimate data point for your bullshit scorecard? Or are we still huffing selection bias fumes and dancing to the Dunning-Kruger Memorial waltz?

 

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 14:58 collapse

So I should just take your terminally online ass as factual instead of using my own observations and personal relationships to make my own judgement?

To answer your questions:

Is that not online enough for ya?

Nope still too online.

Have I touched enough grass to be considered a legitimate data point for your bullshit scorecard?

Nope you can’t talk your way into this you are still on the outside.

Or are we still huffing selection bias fumes and dancing to the Dunning-Kruger Memorial waltz?

Selection bias fumes are you freaking kidding me? All I did was assume it was an online poll correct me if I am wrong. In the meantime: journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/2378023118791080 pewresearch.org/…/assessing-the-risks-to-online-p… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-access_poll

Jesus christ dude I’m just going to ignore that you brought up the dunning-kruger effect otherwise this is just going to be a verbal bashing.

Toto@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:18 collapse

Comment history of antagonism. I wouldn’t expect thoughtful replies.

TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 15:33 collapse

I’m a bit fucking concerned about the fascist take over happening beside that not a single person down there seems interested in doing anything about.

Sepia@mander.xyz on 20 Feb 12:36 next collapse

What is the difference between Russia and the US?

Just this week, Kirill Dmitriev, Putin’s “economic envoy” who also serves as CEO of Russia’s Direct Investment Fund, pitches joint US-Russia projects of 14 trillion USD, contingent on a peace agreement in Ukraine and the lifting of Western sanctions.

Also this week we heard that Gentry Beach, a US investor with close ties to the Trump family, signed an agreement with Russia’s energy giant Novatek already last autumn to develop natural gas in Alaska amid Western sanctions against Russia.

Trump’s negotiators for peace in Ukraine are Steven Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, two real estate developers and investor. What do they negotiate?

If such polls are useful at all then only to distract from reality. That helps autocratic regimes as they make autocratic regimes like Russia and China look as the lesser evil. It’s not true, though.

[Edit typo.]

TerdFerguson@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 12:41 next collapse

Yeah that stupid country can suck a truck stop dick and then fuck itself right off.

GO AWAY.

IckabodKobain@feddit.online on 20 Feb 13:22 next collapse

This is gonna end in a very sad, and devastating way for us (US). Unfortunately, I’m too fucking poor and ill to get the hell off this god-damned Continent.

mitkase@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 15:08 collapse

Our hegemony was going to end one way or the other, sooner or later. I just didn’t think it would be done by some fucking dipshit dousing everything with kerosene and blowing everything up with a tactical nuke while pooping himself.

But hey, those libs sure got owned.

village604@adultswim.fan on 20 Feb 16:54 collapse

We sure stuck it to the DNC for running a mediocre candidate, didn’t we.

eightpix@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 14:01 next collapse

“Canadians say U.S. … is bigger threat [to us] than Russia”

World’s longest undefended border may have something to do with that.

Note: ask any country in Latin America, the Caribbean, Southeast Asia, Africa, or the Arabian/Persian Gulf who is a bigger threat, you’ll get the same answer. Some might say China is forgotten from the list.

Canadians are breaking through the propaganda, finally. Contra-American sentiment or a political anti-American stance has probably not been this rooted since 1812.

Russia threatens European power. U.S. threatens the Western Hemisphere and

Rippin_Farts_And_Or_Breaking_Hearts@lemmy.org on 20 Feb 14:59 next collapse

… and what?! Did they get to you?!

merc@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 17:40 collapse

I’m sure that for Taiwan and South Korea, China is the biggest threat. For Poland, the biggest threat is Russia. It’s obvious why the US is the biggest threat for Canada.

Even if the border weren’t open and undefended, the two countries’ economies have been getting more and more integrated for decades. Canada’s economy depends on a stable and sane USA. For a long time that was a safe bet, but now the US is attacking Canada. And, even if it weren’t for the tariffs and other attacks, the absolute chaos that Trump is doing to the American economy would reverberate into Canada’s economy.

Russia threatens European power. U.S. threatens the Western Hemisphere and

It was nice of the CIA agent to hit “submit” after offing you.

Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 15:35 next collapse

Yup

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 17:10 collapse

As I’ve mentioned previously, both Canada and Mexico have one huge problem between them.