“This Is What Our Ruling Class Has Decided Will Be Normal” (web.archive.org)
from anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe to world@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 17:10
https://lemmy.cafe/post/3189706

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blindbunny@lemmy.ml on 26 Feb 2024 19:23 next collapse

This is probably the best coverage of such a tragic event.

maness300@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 19:34 next collapse

“but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it’s not extreme at all.”

This guy gets it.

Mango@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 20:49 next collapse

Can we have our own protest but on site and with guns? Anyone have a boat?

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 27 Feb 2024 03:57 collapse

Wow one guy sets himself on fire for palestine and the world loses it minds but the tibetans do it all the time and noone bats an eye.

berg@lemm.ee on 27 Feb 2024 05:30 next collapse

I didn’t believe you, but one search told me otherwise.

“as of May 2022, 160 monks, nuns, and ordinary people have self-immolated in Tibet since 27 February 2009” ref.

Your take should still consider the differences in these issues and the prevalence of Israel v Palestine in western media and why that might be, instead of sounding butthurt a dude’s sacrifice for something he believed in worked somewhat. If it makes you happier it’s probably gone with the next news cycle.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 27 Feb 2024 06:31 collapse

I have considered why one is far more prevelent its simple really china makes us fat and rich and in the western world we dont want to think about how our cheap shit based consumer economy is powered by chinese slaves working for a country committing genocide.

And i dont really have any opinion about israil palestine (dont try convince me of either side please) just find it interesting that stalin really was right 1 death is a tradgedy a million is a statistic.

berg@lemm.ee on 27 Feb 2024 06:43 collapse

I don’t care for the conflict either, more than that I think it’s unfortunate. Much like my take on Tibet. I don’t think the CCP is generally liked much in the west though. And I don’t know much about the Tibetan conflict, but why would the west side as much with HK as we’ve done if we already was in China’s pockets? Or what are you trying to say?

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 27 Feb 2024 07:26 collapse

Tibet was a land grab and is now an ethnic clensing. Im not saying we the west are in chinas pockets I think china simply runs a very efficient supression campaign and that in combination with our cushy lives being somewhat relient on them means we dont want to think about it cos then we have to take responsibility.

berg@lemm.ee on 27 Feb 2024 07:41 collapse

Fair enough. I don’t think it’s only our cushy lives though. The influence the US has on Israel compared to China makes a difference. We know of the Uighur situation as well, but there’s not that much we can do than condemning. Sure, trade embargos I guess… But compared to Israel that is very much dependent on the west. There’s a viable way to some sort of solution through sheer influence.

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 27 Feb 2024 09:31 collapse

I suppose so. It just seems we might get more action trade embargos, global condemnation etc if more reporting did go on in relation to china. Might help build confidence for those within china who want democracy. They gave up there freedoms in exchange for incredible technological and economic growth and now that said growth has paused the people have started demanding rights. Unsuccessfully for now but from what ive been seeing the people are getting agitated.

berg@lemm.ee on 27 Feb 2024 09:46 collapse

Yeah, I hope for the same for Russia. To me it seems like that sort of change has to come from within though. External pressures is put through the internal propaganda machine and out comes agitation. But if they get a movement going I’m sure they’d be heard by the west. The HK demonstrations got a lot of light, not that it helped much… But what else is there to do. We could start a war, but I’m doubtful that will make things better.

volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee on 27 Feb 2024 07:20 collapse

We should definitely be batting more eyes in general

muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world on 27 Feb 2024 07:31 collapse

Thats a bit like saying everyone should be smarter. Its a great ideal but unfortunatly the majority of people arw morons.