JD Vance gloats that allies are 'suffering more than US' from high gas prices
(www.thelondoneconomic.com)
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The worst and most stupid bit is this:
Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are “suffering from this, frankly, more than we are.”
He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”
Vance continued:"As much as we’ve got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they’re feeling it far worse than we did because we’ve taken the steps to protect our energy economy.
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Stupid fucking prick
What’s worse is that people actually believe him.
Eh, I don’t know… These MAGA’s are more monsters than people at this stage.
he did reaped the popes soul.
What’s even worse is that they think that it’s a good argument by him.
He’s not stupid, his voting base is.
This. He knows he is wrong here. He just doesn’t care.
That’s a bit too polite for me
He missed his calling. He should be living in a trailer park with a yard full of weeds, broken toys and dog shit, a police record and a restraining order from his ex-wife.
Od from fent you mean
We can thank Peter Thiel for that.
I think you mean restraining order from his couch
Why are they allies when spoken to and treated like this?
Fear.
To him they are not allies his allies are on the Bored of Peace.
America has few allies, if any. It’s more mutually agreed belligerent détentes…
Ey, go ally yourself, pal, arite?
Believe it or not there was a time before Trump.
And some day not too long from now, there will be a time after Trump. He has an insane amount of health conditions, and he’s the least popular president in living memory right now.
The question is if that will actually make a difference for the allies. They have shown how unstable they are, and that they are one bad president away from causing chaos for the whole fucking world. I’d hope there will have to be fundamental changes before that sentiment changes.
Biden dropped a ball by appointing Merrick Garland to not look like he is weaponizing DOJ (and MAGA still said he did). Had he appointed someone who had teeth trump right now would be in prison.
Sure, but Trump isn’t the problem. It’s the 30 or so percent of your country that creates Trumps and the other 70% too cowardly to throw a punch.
They’re US allies, and they know Trump is an old, increasingly demented man sinking his entire political party.
FTFY:
This is a great question that I’m kinda raging about.
I’m Australian. Our fuel prices have increased by almost 50%. Inflation for this year is projected to be 5%.
This is a ridiculous, unnecessary war, serving the interests of a despot we have had no business in supporting.
I imagine that our Prime Minister would say, we were USA allies for 100 years before Trump, and will be for 100 years after he’s gone. It’s true that our alliance runs deep. The current AUKUS agreement concerns building submarines in partnership over several decades.
However, I’m peeved that our Prime Minister is tip toeing around avoiding saying anything mean about the pedo in chief. Trump has thrown us all under the bus for his own reasons, and absolutely deserves to be called out.
Thanks for sharing your point of view. What a mess! But that’s a good point about the history of nations, others also mentioning similar sentiments.
When Iran is more likely to keep its word than America, it is very frustrating to see our government keep pretending we are allies and that all is well.
Like restocking the US Federal Oil reserve right? Like you promised you would? Before the war you started right?
Oh, you didn’t? Why Vance?
Probably another “Japanese” stealthy tactics.
Ironically investing in renewable energy and EVs is how Europe can increase its energy independence. It’s not like they can pump that oil from their ground.
I imagine this war will speed up this conversion even more.
This is what I’ve been saying as well. For ages now. However I was listening to pre election political debate with parties on TV and everybody just kept talking about oil, oil and oil. Nobody even mentioned alternatives or anything else at all. And we even have a prime minister coming straight from electric energy distributor. So I’m not putting too much fate here.
This is very good video to send to anyone who fell for it youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM
It addresses pretty much every argument thrown.
It’s not ironic at all.
I was referring to what he said. He said that Europe has those problems because it prioritized renewable energy and EVs instead (what he implied) pumping oil (or that snake actually meant Europe getting its security by purchasing oil from Russia, which is the complete opposite of security)
One of the biggest advantages to EVs is that they can can get their power from anywhere. And even if the current power generation is from fossil fuels, as that changes so does the overall carbon “usage” of the vehicles.
The difference is also striking when you just look at energy conversion from the fuel source in the vehicle. That EV is around 85% efficient overall at turning that electricity from the wall to movement. For a gas car, you’re looking at between 12-30% of the energy in the fuel tank being converted.
Exactly this. Thanks for mentioning it, i was listing it for exactly that reason, but I guess most people probably still think the only benefit is being environment friendly when it is also let to energy independence.
This is great video explaining common misconceptions: youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM
The main difference is that a modern battery has an energy density of about 0.7 MJ/kg or 700 kJ/kg, whereas gasoline has an energy density of about 45.7 MJ/kg. So, you need to pack in a lot more batteries to allow an electric car to go a meaningful distance. And, you’re hauling around all that extra weight all the time, even when the batteries are nearly empty.
The weight of the fuel tank is dwarfed by the weight of the engine, which can go from 100 (petrol kei car) to 300 (diesel) kg. The battery packs on modern EVs are still heavier, usually in the 200 - 400 kg range, but the difference isn’t as stark as fuel density alone might suggest.
Apparently an average fuel tank can hold somewhere between 40 and 80 litres. So, that’s up to (0.75 * 80 = 60) 60 kg of fuel, which can supply 2.74 GJ of energy. If you wanted 2.74 GJ of batteries in your car, it would weigh about 4000 kg. That’s double the weight of an F150, or basically the weight of a F350, engine, fuel tank, wheels, etc. included.
Now, of course, nobody puts that much battery capacity into a car or truck.
The point is, it’s not an apples to oranges comparison when you talk about the energy efficiency of an EV vs. a ICE car. ICE cars are inefficient, but carry around a very energy dense fuel source and can go hundreds, sometimes thousands of km without needing to stop. EVs have much more efficient engines, but have to drag around really heavy batteries that aren’t very energy dense. Their range is very constrained because if you wanted to match the range of an ICE car you’d have to almost double the weight of the car in batteries alone.
Personally, I like mass transit and bikes. But, if I had to own a car I’d get an electric one. Still, I know that the major drawback to electric cars is that battery energy density sucks compared to gasoline.
Energy efficiency does matter because even if you are burning diesel to generate electricity, you can make power stations a lot more efficient than car engines. So shifting from ICE cars to EVs would reduce fuel use even in the absence of green electricity.
This is true, but like I said, the difference isn’t huge. An ICE car’s fuel + engine would be in the 100 - 400kg range, while an EV’s batteries + motor would be in the 200 - 500kg range. An additional 10% or so of weight is bad, but is outweighed by the at least fourfold increase in efficiency.
‘Contain’, not ‘can supply’ 2.74 GJ of energy. At 20% efficiency, you’d need a 800kg battery to match.
Unlikely.
Maybe someone smarter than me can chime in… But isn’t petrol a finite resource? Shouldn’t we be planning our infrastructure for when it eventually runs dry?
A complicated question, but in short, yes, it's finite. The amount is actually far more than we could ever use possibly, but the real limitation is accessibility. As we extract and use up the easier to get oil, it costs more to get the harder to get. At some point we won't be able to get to oil that's there, and what we can get will cost so much that usage will be limited.
In some cases we've still extracted from places that had a low or negative ROI, such as tar sands, because at the time investment was persuaded that it would pay off. Then there's the changes that make hard to get places suddenly an opportunity, as the arctic areas might soon be.
We should be changing not because of supply, but because of what the use of oil does. But we haven't changed in the right direction after decades of saying that.
Okay, I admit that I’m terrible at human relationships.
But even I know that if you ask someone for help and then gloat over them they’re going to be less likely to help you.
How are these guys this bad at this and still in global office?
How? Look at this generation of voters. Thats how!
They have the most access to information compared to any period of human history, and yet are demonstratably less factually informed and less humanly resourceful than ever before.
Social engineering by SOME gone wrong
Or right, depending on the objective.
They have the most access to misinformation as well.
They think they can bully all the other governments into submitting to their wishes, because they assume that’s how the USA has always been able to dominate the post-ww2 world.
They’re wrong. They do not understand soft power. They do not understand that US economic power is a mutual decision, and that we foreigners decided to allow the US its leadership because we benefited too.
They do not understand that military power has limits. They are unable to comprehend that they have severely weakened the USA as a world power, and given China victory after victory, and - maybe permanently - lost the trust of Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, and South Korea.
Yes, the ultra-conservative forces behind people in the administration like Stephen Miller and Russ Vought - ie the Heritage Society and associated organisations - have won a historic series of ideological victories over their hated progressive enemies. The cost, though, is that they have badly damaged the USA’s power to direct the course of international events.
For evidence of that, see Trump’s pathetic whimpering that none of the former friends of the US have turned up to help re-open the Strait of Hormuz.
He cannot see that the way we were keeping it open was by not attacking Iran. That was the reality. There would be no point in sending ships. You could only stop Iran by killing millions of Iranians, and losing millions of your own troops, in a ground invasion, and the example of Hezbollah and Gaza shows even that might not work.
It’s insane that he might do it anyway.
I Voted for Trump to
have LOWER Prices!have PEACE!Suffer!-Republicans!
My question is which allies? Europe is not an ally, China is not an ally. UK is not an ally, Middle East is not an ally except Israel and UAE. So who is he even talking about?
He so perfectly embodies the fascist ethos. You aren’t suffering, as long as others are suffering more.
I can’t tell if he’s incredibly un-American, or very very American.
This is the correct answer
I’m sure Norway is crying all the way to the bank. It’s hard work hauling all that oil and fertilizer money.
For anyone who doesn’t know, the US is the largest oil producer in the world, more than double any other country. So that’s the reason prices aren’t going up as much as they may be elsewhere, but also what that means is that when we attack Iran us oil company stocks skyrocket. People pay more, billionaires reap, hedge funds reap, the military industrial complex reaps. War as a service.
metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/War_economy
Didn’t know WaaS was a thing. This timeline is just asS.
Let’s not forget all the Venezuelan oil that the execs said was to expensive to drill, higher price might just make it lucrative.
We have tons of untapped oil fields easier to drill in the US that oil companies are sitting on, and we already get something like 1/3 of Venezuelan oil as is
But we still need the oil from the middle east, we mix our heavier oil with theirs in the refining process. We’re draining our reserves to keep the price low domestically, that and the statements that the strait will be reopened imminently is keeping the price relatively low… For now. Our economy is all speculation after all.
But that is likely irrelevant for the timescale of this conflict, right? Surely the lead time for bringing new oil fields online is measured in years.
Nah, like a couple weeks. They ship in a team along with the equipment and then they go to town
Something like deep water rigs can take years to build, but actually tapping a well is pretty quick. But then you can’t just seal it back up - or at least humanity has never bothered to learn how to do so. So companies will sit on them for years to keep production steady, if the cost of oil falls they might move it to a sacrificial shell company and leave it leaking for tax payers to eventually clean up
Oil prices are pretty global. If you look at the prices for European oil (Brent crude) and US oil (West Texas Intermediate), then they are $14 apart. Which is not nothing, but WTI is still up by 63% from pre-war. That is still going to hurt the US economy, a lot.
Also, in the US the oil price windfall is privatized, while the oil price pain is socialized. So the US will still feel almost the full pain.
There is some fuckery in US price. Asia is $60/bbl higher. Rumors of US export controls seemed contradicted by WH on Friday, and somehow prices went down in US by $1. Possibility of US treasury heavily shorting US futures (in secret or with secret financial allies) to manipulate price. With no export controls, US price should be $4 lower than Brent, and $8-$10 lower than Asia.
Asia get their oil through the Hormuz straight. Of course their oil price is higher.
There probably isn’t oil tankers enough in the world to equalize the supply between the US and Asia. Hence you should not expect the price to be perfectly equalized between the US and Asia.
when I said that $10 is a normal limit for Asia premium, it is based on the shipping cost ($10) to get WTI to Asia. Brent crude premium is also high. That there may not be enough shipping capacity to pick up from US, while theoretically possible, the spread is so incredibly profitable that it shouldn’t be $50 higher than normal profit, without every ship in the world lined up to make that profit.
You surely need a lot of oil tankers to sail oil across the Pacific Ocean - because each voyage takes so long. And there needs to be export oil terminals in the US towards Asia, which I assume there isn’t currently, because Asia was supplied by the Middle East.
So a priory doesn’t seem too surprising to me, that there is a price spread.
That is why the fair premium used to be $8 for asia (now $10) vs $4 for Europe. The entirety of the premium is to pay the shipping from one spot to the other.
Everything is in TX and LA. There is not special Asian only valves or anything for shipping, and US has sold plenty of oil and LNG to Asia before.
However, for the corporations that have to use oil instead of sell it, profits get eaten up by oil price rises. So this isn’t a simple benefit for billionaires. Some of them must be absolutely furious at Trump right now.
Take that…allies
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Me strong. You weak. Me happy.
So how bad is it? We had 1.7€/l before this and like 1.9€/l now -> 11,7% rise
It’s not good but it’s bearable. What’s happening in the USA is definitely worse than what’s happening here, in every respect.
Where I am the petrol went from 1.8€/l to 2.1€/l that’s a 16% rise and diesel went from 1.7€/l to 2.4€/l that’s a 41% rise.
It is not just at the pump. The whole supply chain depends on oil. Industrial processes, plastics, fertilizer.
The price rise at the pump is often masked by taxes. The percentage jump for industry will be larger.
Our infrastructure isn’t completely built around cars. We have proper public transportation, walking and cycling infrastructure. The best in the world actually. I don’t need gas or oil to cycle. And my electricity is made by windmills and solar panels.
Well, technically, it really helps to have a teensy bit to lubricate your bicycle’s bearings. But that’s all.
Have you tried butter?
I use wax lube now (and really recommend it) except in winter, so even less so!Oh you said bearings, yes, definitely. Pre coffee mistake
Our boi here, bless his heart, ‘Ol Jaydee can actually hide his own Easter eggs. It keeps him busy while the grownups are napping off Sunday dinner.
Other aspects are already addressed in the comments, but this:
It doesn’t even make sense: US attacking Iran affects fossil fuel delivery; countries that focus more on green energies are more resilient to such crises, not less.
In my EU country fuel prices rose noticeably ~12%. How much in the USA?
And if JD refers to Germany’s over-reliance in Russian gas (which isn’t very green anyhow): That’s the pot calling the kettle black. The US have already lifted sanctions on Russian oil amid this war.
If a maga Republican is saying something, it’s usually the exact opposite of what they are saying that is true. Look it up, this is not a joke.
Every Accusation is a Confession
They even lifted sanctions on Iranian oil
www.theguardian.com/…/us-sanctions-iranian-oil
They’re doing great
But isn’t lifting sanctions on Iranian oil actually the smart thing to do? Get all the oil to market, to ameliorate the supply shock. Even though it looks horrible from a PR angle.
Does lifting sanctions on a country that you’re at war with the smart thing to do? Literally helps to fund their enemy.
Also:
It is not a zero sum game. Letting the oil through, and thereby preventing the world market from a total tail spin, probably helps the US more than it helps Iran. So is on the surface surprising, but surprisingly rational on second look.
Its not enough to make a meaningful differece. Pulling all the levers still cant close the huge gap of the blocked straigt.
Starting the war was a colossal fuck up that they cant fix except by ending it.
Judging from the stock markets, he is right. Swedish industry stocks are down 10-15% the last month. Without steady oil, it will be a big problem for those companies i guess.
lol I’d love to hear them explain this green scam stuff
I’ve heard more than enough of it. They just repeat the same lies over and over
My father ran me through it one day. It involves Al Gore proposal to sell carbon tax credits.
I think this was such a repellent thought to oil companies that they scorched the very thoughts around it.
Too bad about that election.
did he say thank you to the allies, the guy who reaped the popes soul.
This war is probably the most effective way to promote green energy. Similar to how Windows fucking up is the best way to promote Linux. People have to suffer before attempting different solutions 💀
It truly should be a learning experience. But I genuinely don’t think Republicans in the US are capable of learning anything, especially not something as narratively inconvenient as this.
Hoii! Uh… no? Actually we’re chilling considering most cars /trucks here are ran on diesel but realistically most long range shipments are done via freight trains cuz they’re way more efficient :P Also yes it’s not affecting us the people either as we have public transit ^^
vance is a pathological liar. quite obvious just look at how often he makes these trivially refuted lies.
They could ally with China and replace their oil/gas dependency with electrification.
But they won’t.
Lmao what??? Vance is a twatwad, but still your solution is moar coal??
The Suffering. 👏Is. 👏 The point. 👏 👏
I have questions.
What steps did they take? They didn’t take any steps.
Who’s hurting more? The gas prices in US has increased by 50%. I don’t see that anywhere else. This is partially because we already pay a lot more in fixed taxes, so the gas prices alone doesn’t cause the same kind of spikes. Of course we still pay more for it as usual, but the current increase of about 10% doesn’t hurt us as much as it hurts the Americans.
What green energy scams is he talking about? Green energy works. I wouldn’t call it a stable price, as it fluctuates like the wind, but on average I’m paying less for charging my car than I did last year, and I’m expecting the price to drop. It was always cheaper than gas per milage, still is and certainly will be even more so in the future. Big scam huh.
Wait, so the person who aligned himself with an obese orange painted child rapist and narcissistic pathological liar doesn’t know what he’s talking about? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.
I think I’m immediately going to go outside and smash up my solar panels, my battery system, and my heatpump. No, scratch that, I’ll drive my electric car over everything.
Then I’ll go and import a massive Ford F1CUNT mobile and roll moles!!
Or not. It’s a tricky one…
I mean, yesterday we ran our entire house for free, charged the car for free, and exported a few quid of electricity back in to the grid…but, yes, oil and gas is definitely better for me and the climate.
Yes, I know not everyone can’t do what we’ve done but the quicker everyone can get away from fossil fuels the better.
So FUCK OFF, COUCH FUCKING PAEDO ENABLER!
I hope you americans will hold this prick to account once the kiddie fiddling nonce finally dies.
“allies” are more likely to have renewable power sources than the US…and functional, widespread public transport systems
What allies?
Aliens
what allies, do the US have any left ?
I drive my BYD EV charged off my solar panels here in Australia or ride my bicycle.
I have no idea what the price of gasoline or diesel is. I am sure I’ll see higher prices from freight but we’ve woefully under invested in electrified rail transport for freight and moving pole around the country so we are finding out after fucking around for decades.
“what allies, do the US have any left ?”
Russia and North Korea?
Yep, give loser MAGA some hope that they’re not the bottom of the barrel they really are.
This all just plays into the kind of people they are. “You’re suffering, but look at how much worse that poor asshole over there is suffering. Don’t you feel great!?”
Gas lighting… Fact is, they have oil in the ground. We do not. (Or unwilling to mine it at that scale) In the past decades, the american oil companies made sure we are still dependant on oil (yes the few EU ones as well).
But I am grateful towards Trump. If anything he woke (he he) us up. We are now moving towards renewables whether we want to or not. Simply to be more independent.
It will be painful, but that path will lead to the EU being better of, and the USA to end up at the bottom of the world. Even China realized this.
Even if you have oil in the ground, you still are subjected to the price of oil and gaz, your area’s prices, sure, but it’s going up across the board.
What does it help him when others suffer more? So USA is still suffering, but less? Great for them…
That’s the Republican’s whole shtick “Vote for us, we’ll make those people you don’t like hurt worse than we make you hurt”
That’s religions ultimate schtick: Suffering with the reward after you die. Enough zealots and fanatics and you can commit the worst atrocities the world has ever seen.
Yep it’s always the same story, accept your shitty situation while we sit atop gold thrones and super yachts. You’ll be reward in the next life, we promise 🙄
by stealing entire Venezuela’s oil industry after kidnapping Maduro, yet gas prices are still high.
Venezuela’s got big oil reserves but is limited in the extraction by older extraction tech, you’ll need a few years before extraction can be better, if big oil invests… I’m not sure the conditions are right (beyond the next 3 years)
Uh, one way to frame you fucking up i guess?
More green energy focus would have meant hurting a lot less, although last 2-3 years has seen EU fossil electricity drop 10% each year. The first shock to EU energy prices was supporting US war on Russia, including the sabotage of Nordstream. LNG from the US is very expensive, and produces more emissions than local coal.
A new spike from US/Israel current contempt for the world is definitely US extortion’s fault, and not “too much green energy” fault. Current NG prices in Europe make just the fuel cost of NG electricity between 12c-24c/kwh (depending on peaker vs expensive plant)
EU member state incompetence has led to emergency measures of cutting fuel taxes (please use more fuel to drive price higher) instead of massive solar orders and emergency projects.
James Donald Bowman is a despicable malodorous twat that hopes to forget his birthname.
He needs to be reminded of it every day of his miserable life.
does he also have a brainworm now or is he just as dumb? Can he explain like in what correlation does the buildout of greenenergy make one more dependent on oil?
Because you need fossil fuels as feedstocks for everything material and physical? How do you fertilize crops with electricity?
You realize please smart guy. Explain how you fertilize them with oil.
That’s actually how we get a fair bit of artificial fertilizer. With petroleum and natural gas byproducts.
ucs.org/…/whats-wrong-fossil-fuel-based-fertilize…
That being said, organic fertilizers aren’t gone, it’s just more expensive and less damaging to the environment in the long term
JFC are you truly this pig ignorant about how the world works? Do you think the grocery store is a Star Trek replicator?
Why do you think there are EIGHT BILLION people NOW when we had renewable wind and solar since the ancient Egyptians?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution
UFOs or massive MASSIVE amounts of fossil fuel inputs??
Bro… What?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
Just because we use natural gas to make nitrogen fertilizer doesn’t mean we have to; you electrolyse water for your hydrogen instead and you’re off to the races
Using green energy for everything else frees up more fossil fuel for things that need it.
I can only assume the brain worms are being handed out like it’s season five of the Strain.
I cannot even begin to parse how he thought any of those words were a good idea, let alone in that order.
This is genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a human being say. Not only is it ludicrously, hilariously wrong, but even if it wasn’t, why would that be a good thing? Why would you want to proudly declare how much you fucked over your allies?! Does he know what the word “ally” means? Do any of them know?
Who is his target audience with this speech and why would this impress them?
Because punching down is the American ethos. On a macro and a micro level.
That’s what allies usually look for, suffering.
China and India laid up from investing in green energy like
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I don’t know why the tattoo on his chin reads as ASS
Is this AI? Wtf am I looking at
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Is this JoJo?
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If by “this” he means the Trump Administration; then YES we are suffering worse than they are. So tired of their president and the global geopolitical/economic harm he has done.
I’m pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male…
Stupid toxic masculinity and their constant attempts to cover up their weakness and insecurities by pretending they are ‘real men’. And ‘real men’ don’t have empathy. So they behave like self serving pricks.
Why do people vote baby brained bullies into positions of power?
Vance said Trump was “America’s Hitler”. Before Vance realized that he could get power by supporting Trump.
You seem to be using “he thinks” in the sense “Vance genuinely believes”. I am not convinced Vance believes anything, his actions look like pure opportunism.
No conservatives believe anything. They say and do whatever helps them in that moment and in the next moment they’ll say and do the opposite as long as it helps them. They’re animalistic, idiots who only react to things. There’s no long term thinking, there’s no layered thinking it’s just “you think this is bad, so I’m going to say it’s good”
It’s really true.
The fact that Vance actually said that shows just how shitty of a person he is. If he recognizes the kind of person Trump is and still tries to use him to get into a position of power is scummy af.
Why don’t you go outside and couch yourself, Vance
Really Just Dumb? The Allies have something called public transportation and high-speed rail. You fucking moron, you could have used the $200 billion to upgrade the entire Northeast Corridor and turned it into a true high-speed rail system and that is just for starters. In the meantime, piss off and take your AmeriKa Last with you.
Not only that, but the US can actually bludgeon the blow thanks to its economic advantages via so many foreign investors using its bond markets. An advantage that him and his team are destroying. Remember, they got “yippy” per Trump?
Edit: fucking Apple devices lagging after the last update, which for some reason completely wrecked typing and autocorrect.
+1…Indeed, MAGA will trash the US economy. I’m on my last iPhone and ordered a de-Googled Fairphone. Hope it works out.
“That reminds me, I don’t like all those trains. I demand that all European nations close their train travel! If you don’t do what I tell you, I’ll bomb your country, and kill your leaders! I’ll do it, you know I will!”
“allies”
Yes because focusing on green energy surely makes it worse… Fuck you Vance
The US has allies??
Not after this we won’t.
US does not have allies. US & Osreal created the Iran war, US can clean up the mess.
trump has, which is mostly PUTIN AND MSB.
Oil / Gas is a global commodity, shipped around the world on tankers. If prices are higher in France, someone will take cheaper oil/gas from the US and ship it to France where they can make more money.
In the short term, maybe the US suffers less. But, in the longer term prices well even out as people will sell wherever they can get the highest profits.
I don’t even think we are suffering more. Like my fuel prices have gone up by 10p/litre. I’m seeing Americans pay over $100 to fill their tanks, I paid £60 today, our national debt isn’t sitting at 20 odd Trillion and our stock market didn’t just lose over $1T. Like everything else with these clowns, the truth is the opposite of what they say it is.
From $3.50/gallon to $5.99/gallon on the west coast in the US. We absolutely are feeling the effects of these stupid actions.
$100 for a tank is relatively normal though. Our tow vehicle has a 36 gallon tank so even $3/gallon gets expensive.
US oil export terminals are operating near 100% capacity. The US can’t physically export more than they’re doing already. I think that’s the main reason for the WTI and Brent gap.
Countries with higher gas taxes are going to have higher prices than the US.
Oh, we’re just getting started.
Allies? I though we made it clear that the us has no allies in this war. Nobody want ww3 only to distract the brainwashed population of an awful pedophile from a list that he will do anything to hide it. At this point they are alone with the mess, deal with it.
“We created an unnecessary serious problem, but it causes more grief for you than for us! So why don’t you come help us fix it (at our direction of course).”
Gee, can’t guess why that might get some allies p.o.'d…
TIL US imports 97% of crude oil that Canada produces which is 60% of all US crude oil imports.
In Spain, for example, electricity prices remain low thanks to renewable energy. This guy is stupid.
He is not stupid. He is deliberately deceiving his voters.
Why not both?
He does a North Korea.
UK - petrol prices are rising.
Electricity prices are falling because most of our energy is from renewables and british/european gas.
Sucks for me because my car is a petrol one. My wife’s is electric and it costs about £4 for her to charge up overnight and that gets her about 250-280 miles of range (£0.01 per mile).
My car costs £55 to fill up for 400 miles per range (£0.13 per mile).
Although my car is cheaper
Edit - changed currency symbol…realise 0.01p isnt the same as 1p…
What car does she have? Mines costing about 2p/mile in summer and a whopping 2.9p/mile in winter
A mini.
I might have the sums wrong, but we are on the octopus EV tariff so electricity is dirt cheap overnight.
Also 0.01p is 1p. Should have put the pound sign instead lol
But yeah, its insane how cheap it is.
The only kicker is her car costs £100 a month in payments more than mine.
It’s interesting seeing how mine, ionic 5, compares to others in real life. Only reason I got mine was is was one of the few cars somebody could sit behind me, with seat front seat Ben comfortable for driving.
I’ve got the first service 40k miles soon, compared to my wife’s at 10-12k, but realistically 6k for the oil, stupid HDi diesel engine
She has the Aceman that is 5-door so I think you can sort of fit people in the back seat but it isnt comfortable for tall people. No boot space at all though.
But it is very fun to drive!
Havent noticed any price changes yet. Also whos a bad ally now