Donald Trump calls for Taiwan to ‘pay’ for its own defence
(www.ft.com)
from schizoidman@lemmy.ml to world@lemmy.world on 17 Jul 2024 12:30
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from schizoidman@lemmy.ml to world@lemmy.world on 17 Jul 2024 12:30
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cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/18088686
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Donald wants everyone to pay for their own defence yet will also charge the taxpayer extra for this own protection (while not paying taxes himself).
An inch makes all the difference.
I guess “changed man” has nothing to do with mental acuity.
My take is the bullet actually passed through his head, but there’s nothing there so he was fine
I wonder if he share the same view on “israel” paying for own “defence”
That’s a very interesting thing to point out. I’d like to hear his followers respond to it.
Smart guy. He should probably tell how it works to communists biden voters
Let Taiwan and their super fucking important chip factories fall into adversary hands and see how that works out.
Yeah. They make a huge percentage of the world’s high-end chips. A military takeover would leave us shoveling piles of money at China or, more likely, the fabs would be destroyed and suddenly every computer or product that uses a computer to create it (read: all of them) shoots up in price for the next decade.
And that is just the immediate effects. The downstream effects of the US no longer providing security would likely lead to swift nuclear proliferation as that is the only way such a small country can hope to protect itself if no larger country is willing to stick their neck out for them.
It will work out just fine, having 1 single country provide the world with everything. What could possibly go wrong?
There are companies and governments trying to put this right at the moment, but chip manufacturing capacity is very slow to set up. It requires very expensive, specialized and uncommon equipment and highly qualified specialist staff who are not easy to find or quick to train.
“The adversary”
Obvious bait is obvious
Next you’ll be wondering where all the American soft power went, except I bet you're too dumb to know what soft power is
So people are making impersonation accounts now.
I’m surprised it took this long to be honest
Alternate headline: Crusty old man grossly underestimates the sheer importance of advanced semiconductors
He’s sabotaging the West on purpose.
Anything to help his daddy putin.
any piece the begins “trump says “ has never been worth my time.
Does he think Taiwan sends us a bill or something?
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That’s exactly what he thinks, isn’t it?
He thinks the US sends them a bill and they don’t pay.
He’s very transactional.
A bit ironic as he never pays for things either.
It’s always projection.
I guess we don’t know the motivation for the last shooter’s actions. But I’m pretty sure he’s going to get himself whacked sooner or later.
What are we, the protection racket? Defend the nerd from the bully and then demand the lunch money for ourselves? FFS, can nobody be good for the sake of what’s right and won’t without expectation of a return?
America never did it because it was right. That’s a happy side effect. It did it as its in its own interest. Just like with israel, which now leads to Palestinian genocide. They aren’t moral decisions being made.
So Trump is making it seem like it will save the USA money but it won’t. It will cost much more in the long run. I wodner how many Chinese votes will be won and lost, or other Asian votes, knowing it risks destabilizing the region.
Trump is literally a foreign agent, working on behalf of China and Russia.
Don’t forget the Saudis! They’d love to entice Trump with a tacky golf resort in the middle of the desert in exchange for some more environmental deregulation and looking the other way on human rights violations
I feel like that’s the case for all the far-right populists around the world. Viktor Orban in Hungary, Erdogan in Turkey, the AfD party in Germany, etc. AfD members of the European parliament literally got caught taking money from the Russian and Chinese intelligence agencies, and in exchange doing some stuff in the parliament.
Erdoğan doesn’t fit the list in my opinion.
He’s obviously a right wing stooge that uses religious extremism to his advantage, and I hope his reign ends soon, but he’s only been blocking stuff temporarily to advance his position (to get EU membership for example, or to advance at the borders), but he has been an important ally to Ukraine and NATO during the war.
I haven’t seen him repeat Russian propaganda at all.
Correct me if my feeling is wrong though. I didn’t look deeper into it.
my understanding is that Taiwan buys weapons from the us, so he is demanding something that is already a common practice
I posted a similar comment on some of the news around the US Republican’s withholding aid to Ukraine for 6 months but this is insane.
Sure in the case of Taiwan specifically, the semiconductors is an obvious and immediate issue. But it’s also worth noting that the US has spent countless trillions of dollars and worked through consecutive administrations for decades to establish itself as a reliable, irreplaceable and necessary defence partner.
This isn’t just about Taiwan or Ukraine, but the geopolitical status of the US as a whole. It seems insane to me to jeopardize that. I’m no political scientist or anything so if this is actually in some way good for the US I’d be very interested to hear that perspective.
Rolling back US empire is an unalloyed good.
I think there’s definitely merit to that. There are multiple avenues to achieving that end though and the US suddenly leaving its allies unprotected is probably the worst possible one imo. I am biased though living in Taiwan and having my home country also dependent on our alliance with the US for defence.
Taiwan isn’t an ally it’s a vassal. And you shouldn’t be so excited to be a meat shield for their aggression on the opposite side of the world. Even if you have sympathies for your fascist, genocidal government.
Uhhh, ok now you’ve lost me. I’d kinda just like to not have myelf or my family bombed or shot at and be able to have self determination. Being under the umbrella of US protection is the best way to have both of those things right now.
Oh yes, of course it’s American aggression that’s the problem here, not Chinese aggression.
Seen a map before?
Check out the continent of Africa for a current view of the counterpoint to your argument.
Have you seen nmap before?
You seem angry and myopic.
Anyway, that’s not what I said. Nor implied. China (xi/aka pooh bear). Is ALSO bad. CHINA is ALSO building military bases, secret camps, “police stations”, around the world.
They’ve turned a Democratic Hong Kong into an authoritarian regime. As they seek to do with Taiwan.
They prop up north Korea, supply weapons to Russia, etc., they intern Muslims, they disappear their own people. (See, China is ALSO, a murderous dictatorship. Get it yet?)
Africa, is their focus at present.
Resources.
They’ve taken over major ports. They’ve built military bases. They’re exploiting the people. They’re just getting started.
Payback in some minds, for the century of humiliation.
www.rfa.org/…/china-africa-12262021114423.html
csis.org/…/assessing-risks-chinese-investments-su…
www.cfr.org/tracker/china-overseas-ports
chathamhouse.org/…/china-eyeing-second-military-b…
I appreciate you kicking off your screed with a (shoehorned) racist caricature just to mark the water level in your brain pan.
Why is China evil? I guess is the topic now? Well, according to you, they want revenge. For what? That time we made them slaves and murdered them by the millions. And how are they going to get that revenge? By making financial investments in overseas ports.
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The fuck? It took me a minute. Lol.
Who’s racist?
Buddy person, words have different meanings. If you applied the visual meaning rather than the obvious intended meaning, buddy person, you, are the racist.
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Look how not racist I am! I found a version of the yellow skinned cartoon that someone added slant-eyes to! Triggered??
Yeah. Naked virulent racism is triggering for me. I’m not a piece of shit.
Think about it. Who loses if the US becomes anything other than a reliable, irreplaceable and necessary defense partner? Who gains?
Putin is waging war against the rest of the world on multiple fronts and our definitions and rules of engagement when it comes to hybrid warfare aren’t up to date.
No more free supply?
Are you fucking kidding me
All of Donald Trump’s previous defense lawyers blink in surprise
Does Donny know where the processor of the phone that he posts all his verbal vomit comes from?
Any article starting with “Trump Says” is not worth my time or yours, my friends
Trumps job is just to keeping reeling in the suckers, selling fake magic potion.
Like any President, he’ll do what he’s told when the time comes. He has no values of own.
Taiwan will just say American corporations should pay more for those precious chips to fund it’s defense
Why is it only American corps that have to find it’s defense?
This really shows how clueless this “businessman” is about business. Imagine China invades in Taiwan. About any business in the electronic sector will go down hard. Really hard. All over the world.
He should pay for his own defense
Maybe Taiwan should just sell their chips at way higher price to America ♻️