Iran says Hormuz open to all but ‘enemy-linked’ ships (www.reuters.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 14:17
https://lemmy.world/post/44590842

The Strait of Hormuz remains open to all shipping ​except vessels linked to “Iran’s enemies”, Iranian media reports ‌published on Sunday quoted Iran’s representative to the U.N. maritime agency as saying.

Ali Mousavi’s comments came from an interview ​published on Friday by Chinese news agency Xinhua, ​before U.S. President Donald Trump’s threat to target ⁠Iranian power plants if the strait was not “fully ​open” within 48 hours.

The threat of Iranian attacks during ​the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran has kept most ships from getting through the narrow strait, the conduit for around a fifth ​of global oil and liquefied natural gas supplies, ​threatening a global energy shock.

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Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Mar 14:39 next collapse

We’ve effectively put sanctions on ourselves, amazing.

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 14:57 next collapse

Trump’s tariffs on the whole world are also effectively self-imposed sanctions on the USA.

jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 14:58 next collapse

Art of the deal.

muffedtrims@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 15:13 next collapse

I am so tired of all the winning!

givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 15:13 next collapse

Not just ourselves, anyone that’s an ally.

Gullible@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 15:32 collapse

They’ve mined the strait, so it really is everyone.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 17:18 collapse

Anyone that mines waters keeps charts to navigate through. Since mines were invented. I remember reading about the Japanese getting the Russian charts in 1911 or whatever around then, to invade the far east, where they wiped out the russian fleet, the arrogant russians not fearing a non white country, despite their astronomic industrialization with the help of european powers, and ingenious finance arraangements building industries with government capital then auctioning them to private industry and using that money to start the next industrialization. The most rapid development of any country ever as I read it.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 22 Mar 18:24 collapse

If the solutions are already invented and for sale and you can see what the opium wars looked like…yeah, they better be as fast as possible.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 18:27 collapse

Hai gai jin.

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 15:46 collapse

P2025 is literally all about bankrupting the USA and selling it to billionaires and enslaving the population.

This is just part of the plan

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 17:14 collapse

Which is just the latest iteration of the 1971 business roundtable that made this long game to seize control.

arsenyv@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 16:45 collapse

Ok then explain to me how this Thai vessel was an “enemy-linked” ship: cnn.com/…/iran-war-strait-hormuz-thai-sailors-int…

Edit: non-paywall link archive.is/HfLvX

workerONE@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 17:04 next collapse

I think that was about a week ago edit: March 11. This announcement is from two days ago

arsenyv@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 17:09 collapse

Sure but do you think anyone would risk their lives based on Iran’s word? The strait is effectively closed and shut until orange clown declares his special operation complete.

kurwa@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 17:22 next collapse

Was the US bombing random oil tankers in the strait now?

Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 17:38 collapse

No, but Iran will continue to threaten vessels from crossing. The treat itself will prevent any vessel from attempting, also insurance won’t allow it.

kurwa@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 17:47 next collapse

Ships have been passing through: www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4geg0eeyjeo

Not many, but they are making it through if Iran allows them.

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Mar 18:35 collapse

They are not actually chaotic disorganized maniacs, even if thats how many media outlets like to portray them. They know what they are doing and its clearly working.

ohulancutash@feddit.uk on 22 Mar 18:47 collapse

They’re somewhat organised maniacs but maniacs nevertheless.

workerONE@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 18:13 collapse

Yeah I do. Iran closed the strait and ships were told to go through anyway. Now they say it’s open to non hostile states- I think someone will be instructed to try to go through. edit: about 63 ships going to China and India have passed through, 1 going to Pakistan, ships from Greece have docked in Iran and will leave again.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 17:19 collapse

Because where a ship is registered is not where it’s owned. Almost zero ships are registered to the countries that own them.

arsenyv@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 17:21 collapse

Looks like a Thai company to me: www.preciousshipping.com/en/who-we-are/ (at least all the crew were Thai nationals).

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 17:29 collapse

The ownership can be obscured, if Iran hit it, it’s because they got a tip Israel or the US’ dickhead billionaires were involved, and or it was trading with the US. This is fiendishly hard to trace by design.

arsenyv@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 17:32 next collapse

Yeah that’s fair but I think it goes back to my point that no vessel will feel safe operating in the strait at this time (regardless of any promises).

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 17:38 next collapse

I agree, not the least as the US would hit these fuckers and blame Iran if they could, and they can.

The other issue is the insurers won’t touch these vessels at this time, these are expensive ships, 100 million I think, and the orders take several years to fulfill, mostly chinese and east asian shipyards I’ve been informed.

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 19:49 collapse

Only way to ensure safe passage is for each trusted nation-state to clear each one of their ships individually in advance with Iran. And even then there’s always the possibility Iranians fire at it by mistake.

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 19:51 collapse

By that definition, any ship probably has some connection to the US/NATO, which makes their whole point about the Hormuz being open void.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 19:56 collapse

Not at all, chinese, Indian, perhaps even Javan shipping all gets a pass under the Iranians. And anyone else willing to play by their rules. It’s Iran’s straits, they have a right to make the rules on it.