Canadian-Israeli woman, missing since Hamas ambush at musical festival, dead: family (www.ctvnews.ca)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 16:30
https://lemmy.world/post/6796859

Family of a Canadian-Israeli woman, who was missing since Hamas militants ambushed a music festival in southern Isreal last Saturday, says she has died(opens in a new tab).

Twenty-two-year-old Shir Georgy went missing after the militant group attacked the music festival near Kibbutz Re’im last Saturday.

Georgy’s aunt, Michal Bouganim, says the family is a mess and heartbroken.

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simple@lemm.ee on 14 Oct 2023 17:08 next collapse

And? I don’t want to be cynical but why is one Israelian person found dead newsworthy while thousands of citizens are getting murdered in Palestine?

deegeese@sopuli.xyz on 14 Oct 2023 17:24 next collapse

Your vote totals tell me most people believe Palestinian lives don’t count, which is borne out by US policy towards Israel.

BassTurd@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 18:27 next collapse

No. You’re just an idiot.

DarkThoughts@kbin.social on 14 Oct 2023 18:49 next collapse

Or because it's moronic whataboutism and kind of sociopathic to drop comments like that under such news? It's clear that you people don't care about the victims on either side, just what kind of political agenda you can push with it. It's disgusting.

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 04:35 collapse

Did you know that girl? Will this article console her family? Reporting one casualty without mentioning the 2200 Palestinian deaths masks the severity of the situation. You feign concern for one Canadian while dismissing the ongoing war crimes. It’s clear that you don’t care about the the victims in Palestine, just what kind of political agenda you can push with it. It’s disgusting.

DarkThoughts@kbin.social on 15 Oct 2023 10:55 collapse

It's a Canadian news site, reporting over the death of a Canadian citizen. But then again, you're arguing in bad faith and know this full well, so I don't even need to explain this. Unlike you, I do actually care for the victims in Palestine, I just don't use them as a tool for anti Jewish propaganda like you do.

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 13:08 collapse

I am Jewish. You, and western media are using any and everything to distract from the fact that Holocaust 2.0 is about to happen. And I’m in the wrong? Get a fucking grip on your humanity. I’m collapse aware and I’m a big proponent of climate change. But this singular issue should be the only thing that is reported on until the people in Palestine are safe. Anything less is sophistry and complicit with genocide. It’s not the reporting on news that is Canadian centric. It’s the failure to put it in context with the war crimes that are currently happening.

DarkThoughts@kbin.social on 15 Oct 2023 18:19 collapse

Reporting on the Hamas victims is doing that? Okay. Maybe stop being an Hamas apologist and then we can talk.

iegod@lemm.ee on 14 Oct 2023 22:35 collapse

“This absolutely not true statement about my fragile inability to be internet voted means this totally unrelated claim.” -you, the dumbass

Baines@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 18:03 next collapse

the point is to drum up support for the coming atrocities

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 14 Oct 2023 20:55 collapse

No, a Canadian died overseas in a terrorist attack so a Canadian newspaper reported on it. Fuck right off with conspiracy theorizing.

Baines@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 23:20 collapse

clearly that accounts for the entire massive media push conflating Hamas’ actions with Israel’s response against Palestine

and it’s not a conspiracy when Israel has been outed multiple times for massive propaganda campaigns

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 15 Oct 2023 02:12 collapse

I’m not saying you’re incorrect about the US media but Canada is quite different culturally. When citizens are killed in terrorist or other attacks our news will regularly cover it. We have some underreporting when it comes to gang violence (especially drug crimes or crimes in immigrant communities) but we’re a lot more protective of our people up here.

Baines@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 07:56 collapse

or crimes against your own native minorities, lol if you think Canada is all that different

directly relevant where’s the report about the Canadian UN worker killed in the Gaza air raid?

but all of this is beside the point I replied to

dudes point was 1000s of Palestinians killed yearly and its a blurb on page 3, 1 pretty white girl and it’s front page news

my point was its conveniently posted to tie into conflating fighting terrorists with a ground assault in Gaza and justifying the coming resulting atrocities

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 15 Oct 2023 10:41 collapse

Up here in Canada we have a national holiday called Truth and Reconciliation, we’re facing our demons. America is still celebrating fucking Columbus day.

Fuck off.

Baines@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 16:54 collapse

my dude, some holiday doesn’t make it better, your country isn’t facing shit, just like the US

look up the quality of life statistics and that huge gulf

as an impacted native, fuck yourself

Saganastic@kbin.social on 14 Oct 2023 18:10 next collapse

A Canadian news site posting an article about a Canadian citizen killed in another country seems reasonable to me.

shadysus@lemmy.ca on 14 Oct 2023 23:38 collapse

Yep, news sites also post about Canadian’s killed or harmed in Gaza

…ctvnews.ca/london-ont-doctor-trapped-in-gaza-vol…

CTV News has its issues, but they do report on both

There was also this from CBC, which is generally better for coverage

Canadian shot in Gaza says he was ‘clearly marked’ as a doctor (CBC)

MxM111@kbin.social on 14 Oct 2023 18:17 next collapse

If someone in your family is killed would you find it more newsworthy than other people killed in Palestine? Canadians find it too.

kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 21:14 next collapse

What makes you wake up in the morning and post this sort of comment? Why are they less news worthy than anyone else?

simple@lemm.ee on 14 Oct 2023 21:41 collapse

Because most news and people keep posting news providing love and support for Israel while ignoring the elephant in the room?

What makes you wake up in the morning and post this sort of comment?

My ability to give a crap about other people? How is one person’s death more important to report than over ten thousand? Everyone’s acting like I’m the devil for bringing it up.

emax_gomax@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 22:02 next collapse

I see a complete mixed bag of support and criticism browsing any news on the topic. If you only see support for Israel have you considered its because you keep engaging with it and the algorithms think you want to see more? Regardless this is probably getting more news coverage despite the imbalance of victim counts because news agencies can actually speak to the families involved and share their stories. They can’t just pop over to Palestine to talk to the murdered peoples families without greater risk to themselves.

burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works on 14 Oct 2023 22:24 next collapse

It’s because a terrorist attack is apparently more newsworthy than a genocide.

kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world on 14 Oct 2023 23:32 collapse

“And?” really conveys the level of empathy that you embody.

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 04:20 collapse

2,200 people have been killed in the besieged territory in the last several days, including 724 children and 458 women. With a looming humanitarian crisis, that number is expected to rise.

From a statistically utilitarian standpoint, he’s right, and more empathetic. Source

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stillwater@lemm.ee on 15 Oct 2023 03:42 next collapse

You can’t figure out why a Canadian outlet is reporting on a Canadian citizen?

DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee on 15 Oct 2023 17:55 collapse

Yea, and I am very skeptical of a rave being held next to a prison with tanks actively on stand-by.

Hamas aren’t heros, being set up by Israel to destabilize Palestine in the first place, but with Israeli citizens being reservist members of the military, something smells about this. Hamas has no gain from a strike against a music festival.

Ignoring circumstances and just calling them dumb terrorists is short sighted and is a blatant demonizing attempt by Israel to justify their continued oppression of Palestinians.

This is also one retaliatory attack by a nation of people’s subjected to decades of violent persecution, being mad at water for boiling when left on a hot burner.

Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 03:08 collapse

So wait, your position is that Israel is behind the Hamas attacks on Israel, in order to justify their military action against Gaza?

Do you have any evidence to support that?

DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee on 16 Oct 2023 04:30 collapse

No. I’m sketch that Isreal is hiding something that they were doing on site near the festival and is using the event (not affiliated with Israel, just a rave that happened to be on site) as a cover for the reason Hamas chose it as a target.

There is the possibility that something is unknown here and innocent civilians on Israel’s side were stuck in the crossfire. When I mentioned civilians being reservist it is more than any could be apart of something the others don’t know about. So some were there for the rave, others could be there for something off record that warranted tanks on standby.

Then there is Hamas using the Palestinian plight as a cover for their goals. They very well could have their own political goals that are not readily apparent. So reality we might never truly know “why” the site was targeted.

I have no evidence to support it. I just cannot understand what significance or benefit Hamas attributed to a rave that warranted going through all the trouble of bypassing Israel defenses.

JewGoblin@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 01:26 next collapse

imagine partying at a festival and having a bunch of armed cavemen drop from the sky and start murdering people.

even the ones that happen to survive are going to live out their lives with severe PTSD, I can’t even imagine.

I’ve witnessed the savagery of humans first hand when I was on the streets of Baltimore City when I was younger and I can still her the screams of a young women that was viciously beat down with shovels, bricks, even a flower pot, then having the savages notice me, yes I ran. anyway, I hope the survivors get professional help. because trauma is life long, and can lead to some dark times. rant over

keefshape@lemmy.ca on 15 Oct 2023 01:40 next collapse

Ptsd fistbump.

👊

PilferJynx@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 02:07 collapse

Dirty Muslim armed cavemen.

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 16 Oct 2023 02:53 collapse

Not sure what you added to the conversation…

PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee on 16 Oct 2023 04:52 collapse

Bigotry.

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stillwater@lemm.ee on 15 Oct 2023 03:40 next collapse
  1. They went there before any attack, not after

  2. You’re celebrating and demanding more terrorism against people for neckbeard ass reasons.

I hope you get your ass locked up before you shoot up a nightclub.

Hadriscus@lemm.ee on 15 Oct 2023 04:16 next collapse

Bro take a hold of yourself

Ookami38@sh.itjust.works on 15 Oct 2023 04:24 collapse

The best thing about this whole shitty situation is that people are readily making themselves known as, if not terrorists, pro-terrorism. Jesus Christ

Jimmycakes@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 03:27 collapse

It’s safe to assume no one is missing over there. There is death raining down

MataVatnik@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 05:06 collapse

Blood sacrifice for the cause