Israel, not the far left, has created the atmosphere itself by not obeying international laws, geneva convention or any other law that doesn’t benefit the zionist agenda.
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world
on 17 May 18:53
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The term “antisemitism” has been thrown around so much by Netenyahu and his administration that it has lost all meaning. Much like the boy who cried wolf, the word has lost all meaning, especially so in a world where it is European colonial settler Jews like Netenyahu performing an active genocide against a Semitic population in the Palestinian people.
Does this make the settler European ruling caste of Jews in Israel the real anti-Semites?
This is a guy who has publicly and gleefully called religious Jews “inbred.” I would love to see just one anti-racist say that this man has no place in the movement.
Love you leaving out the orthodox part of quote. But it’s also something known and being researched in many groups that tend to stay in their own groups for relationships and children.
Just look at all of the supposed leftists refusing to distance themselves from this literal antisemitic jerk.
As long as he is also anti-Israel people seem fine to defend him.
Appleseuss@lemmy.world
on 17 May 22:17
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He’s not Anti-Semitic, and has given many public speeches against Anti-Semitism. I think you need to do some more research and actually listen to him talk instead of making up stuff or repeating what someone else said about him.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 May 00:17
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He called ethno-religious and racial supremacists Israelis inbred not jews. I don’t like people calling other inbreed but it was not antisemitic
No, he specifically called Jews who refused to join the IDF for religious reasons inbred. Watch the clip. But I guess keep defending it.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 May 00:41
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He referred to those ultraorthodox sect who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is exactly like Trump avoiding military draft for Vietnam not because he opposed the war but because he don’t want to sacrifice his life
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 May 00:41
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He referred to those ultraorthodox sect who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is exactly like Trump avoiding military draft for Vietnam not because he opposed the war but because he don’t want to sacrifice his life
He referred to those ultra-Orthodox sects who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is similar to Trump avoiding the military draft for Vietnam, not because he opposed the war but because he didn’t want to sacrifice his life. He also apologized for using this world. While the UK is allowing people like Eric Zemour who believe in the grand replacement anti Muslims, immigrants and antisemite conspiracy theory and say that Muslims are colonizing Europe .
The groups mentioned are Zionists groups defending Israel’s colonial policies and fighting anti genocide and colonization people . They defend israel military actions in Gaza and oppose BDS.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
on 18 May 01:17
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But calling Jews inbred is antisemitic.
Calling what they practice according to their own doctrines?
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 May 00:01
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I hate Nazis and their hate.
I don’t have an issue with Jews.
I don’t have an issue with the existence of Israel.
I DO have an issue with Zionists who take what is not theirs, who kill to further their goals, and who manipulate for furthering their Agenda.
I agree with you completely, other than the last line. This is a guy who is unapologetic about making bigoted statements about Jews. He was called out on it and doubled down.
I am bothered by someone speaking out in the guise of being part of my movement thinking it’s fine to say things like that. I am even more bothered by apparent throngs of people who refuse to hold any accountability for antisemitic language repeated in YOUR name (specifically referring to Haredi/religious Jews as “inbred”)
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 May 00:15
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You are accusing Hassan of being an antisemite?
MadhuGururajan@programming.dev
on 18 May 03:53
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One can say the same for Israel Apologists. People who hate Muslims have created a climate in which there is no way to call out Israel’s atrocities without being accused of being an antisemite.
It's CPC, and China does a lot right. But people would rather keep CIA narratives than actually learn. Finally, because someone can acknowledge what another nation has done and is doing doesn't make them "far left." Western people have been prodded so far right, so slowly that the collective memory of what US "right" and "left" is*, the common purview is anything left of Reagan is "far left."
China is quite possibly less authoritarian than Western governments. All states have and use authority. Better it's used for the citizens' housing, health, food, transportation needs than Elon and Bezos.
Edit: also while discussing authoritarianism, perhaps check the thread title and read the article. This is what Western authoritianism is for and spends.
I thought the consensus was that America definitely deserved 9-11; to be honest with all the shit america has pulled i feel they should have more blowback. but what do i know? I’m not american.
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Sounds more like “UK zionist lobby” calls for blocking HP’s visit.
Nobody is afraid of that. Got any citations to go with that conveniently round number?
Uk zionist groups not jewish groups.
The far left has created a climate in which there is no consequence for antisemitism as long as the perpetrator is also anti-Israel.
Israel, not the far left, has created the atmosphere itself by not obeying international laws, geneva convention or any other law that doesn’t benefit the zionist agenda.
Holy shite, you've finally gone full mask off!
When haven’t they been???
This particular mod? I only saw what they do in modlog, most people don't seem to look? This is the first time I saw the mask slip in public!
Oh they’ve always been like this whenever the article is critical of Israel
I never saw it. I just saw them delete posts critical of Israel. Is this that Kaplan guy?
Nah completely different one
Just making sure. Oops all Nazis
Amazing how it works 🙃
The term “antisemitism” has been thrown around so much by Netenyahu and his administration that it has lost all meaning. Much like the boy who cried wolf, the word has lost all meaning, especially so in a world where it is European colonial settler Jews like Netenyahu performing an active genocide against a Semitic population in the Palestinian people.
Does this make the settler European ruling caste of Jews in Israel the real anti-Semites?
This is a guy who has publicly and gleefully called religious Jews “inbred.” I would love to see just one anti-racist say that this man has no place in the movement.
Love you leaving out the orthodox part of quote. But it’s also something known and being researched in many groups that tend to stay in their own groups for relationships and children.
…berkeley.edu/…/bottlenecks-reduced-genetic-diver…
old.reddit.com/…/ashkenazi_jews_and_inbreeding/
Anti-Zionism!=Anti-Semitism.
But calling Jews inbred is antisemitic.
Just look at all of the supposed leftists refusing to distance themselves from this literal antisemitic jerk.
As long as he is also anti-Israel people seem fine to defend him.
He’s not Anti-Semitic, and has given many public speeches against Anti-Semitism. I think you need to do some more research and actually listen to him talk instead of making up stuff or repeating what someone else said about him.
He called ethno-religious and racial supremacists Israelis inbred not jews. I don’t like people calling other inbreed but it was not antisemitic
No, he specifically called Jews who refused to join the IDF for religious reasons inbred. Watch the clip. But I guess keep defending it.
He referred to those ultraorthodox sect who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is exactly like Trump avoiding military draft for Vietnam not because he opposed the war but because he don’t want to sacrifice his life
He referred to those ultraorthodox sect who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is exactly like Trump avoiding military draft for Vietnam not because he opposed the war but because he don’t want to sacrifice his life
He referred to those ultra-Orthodox sects who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is similar to Trump avoiding the military draft for Vietnam, not because he opposed the war but because he didn’t want to sacrifice his life. He also apologized for using this world. While the UK is allowing people like Eric Zemour who believe in the grand replacement anti Muslims, immigrants and antisemite conspiracy theory and say that Muslims are colonizing Europe .
The groups mentioned are Zionists groups defending Israel’s colonial policies and fighting anti genocide and colonization people . They defend israel military actions in Gaza and oppose BDS.
Calling what they practice according to their own doctrines?
I hate Nazis and their hate.
I don’t have an issue with Jews.
I don’t have an issue with the existence of Israel.
I DO have an issue with Zionists who take what is not theirs, who kill to further their goals, and who manipulate for furthering their Agenda.
That guy seems to share my views.
I agree with you completely, other than the last line. This is a guy who is unapologetic about making bigoted statements about Jews. He was called out on it and doubled down.
I am bothered by someone speaking out in the guise of being part of my movement thinking it’s fine to say things like that. I am even more bothered by apparent throngs of people who refuse to hold any accountability for antisemitic language repeated in YOUR name (specifically referring to Haredi/religious Jews as “inbred”)
Why don’t you fully quote the line where he called Haredi Jews “inbred”? I’m curious about the context now that you’re saying it without any.
What context would make it okay for you?
It’s already linked multiple times in this thread
You are accusing Hassan of being an antisemite?
One can say the same for Israel Apologists. People who hate Muslims have created a climate in which there is no way to call out Israel’s atrocities without being accused of being an antisemite.
Hassan Piker is only far left if you're far right.
Isn’t this the guy who praises China and the CCP?
It's CPC, and China does a lot right. But people would rather keep CIA narratives than actually learn. Finally, because someone can acknowledge what another nation has done and is doing doesn't make them "far left." Western people have been prodded so far right, so slowly that the collective memory of what US "right" and "left" is*, the common purview is anything left of Reagan is "far left."
Added a word.
China is an authoritarian dictatorship, so if it does anything right that really doesn’t matter.
Not that the US are better but what a wild stance to just decide to take unprompted
What's wild is blind hatred based on everything I just listed.
Is it blind hatred to recognize that china is authoritarian? Lol
China is quite possibly less authoritarian than Western governments. All states have and use authority. Better it's used for the citizens' housing, health, food, transportation needs than Elon and Bezos.
Edit: also while discussing authoritarianism, perhaps check the thread title and read the article. This is what Western authoritianism is for and spends.
Authoritarianism is when people are allowed to petition the government with their grievances
Way to deliberately miss the point. The point is ethnonationalism and genocide and apologia/encouragement.
Yes China does all of those things. Really awesome to see you’ve challenged your own flawed reality so quickly 😄
To dismiss any good thing about China yes it is.
The usa is a democracy that is responsible of ton of coups, creation of failed states and murder of millions of people all over the world
He said “America deserved 9/11" and Crimea is russian.
Piker is a tankie clown
America did deserve 9/11, though. Most of the Americans that died probably didn’t.
Except he didn’t.
The shit the US has been pulling around the world starting decades before 9/11 might have been the reason someone wanted to punch back at the bully.
But I do not agree regarding Crimea.
I thought the consensus was that America definitely deserved 9-11; to be honest with all the shit america has pulled i feel they should have more blowback. but what do i know? I’m not american.