yea man as much as i hate victim blaming i really want people to NOT dress themselves in a toga stitched together out of raw meat before they leap down into the pit of starving hyenas >.>
i wouldn’t be so mean as to call that attempted tourist stupid but i would sympathetically tell them “that’s rough buddy” before gesturing in their direction to address others with “please don’t do what they did.”
man out of all that’s wrong with this I couldn’t imagine how upset I’d be that I’d have wasted vacation time for this, it wouldn’t be the biggest problem but it would be in the back of my head constantly like “wow sure is nice that I took time off work to be grabbed by americia’s new slave catchers”
Having been to Yellowstone I can say that that experience is ALMOST worth what she went through.
The buffalo really do just come up to your car and YES they will fucking charge you. At least this couple got to enjoy that.
Seriously, though. Spent a week at Yellowstone and could go another ten times and see new things each time. Just absolutely a beautiful gem of America and unlike any place I’ve been.
Witchfire@lemmy.world
on 21 Feb 07:40
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she knew that international travellers were being locked up in immigration detention centres in the US. “I was aware,” she nods. “But I never thought it would have any impact on my holiday.”
“I am not a dangerous criminal. I didn’t enter the country illegally and I had everything I needed to be there.”
Fuck the Trump administration, but also fuck this privileged bitch in particular
NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world
on 21 Feb 08:04
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What makes her a privileged bitch? She had a visa, she entered the country legally. In any other non-fascist country this wouldn’t have happened.
She was aware it happened to others and despite evidence to the contrary just bought the US government’s narrative that those all were illegals and criminals.
I understand your feelings but you should place your rage at the systems and structures of white privilege. Being upset at some random old white removed believing in her privilege is not helpful.
Though it does feel good to vent out that rage sometimes. I get it.
The US Government is quite literally sending bloodthirsty hounds against their own people, and dragging innocent tourists off to detention centres for no reason, yet the UK is rated worse due to the couple of terror attacks we've had over the last year??
I think I know where I'd rather take my chances as a tourist. Yikes.
The UK is speedrunning the US to fascism, and they are ahead, even if they don’t have a blowhard running the show, just a traitorous mealy mouthed tool of the oligarchy. Cancelling the magna carta, the right to protest, defenses to decades in prison for protesting, bad faith terror designations by their corrupts lawmakers, a masterbaitorbase, age controls, the last two of which to give Thiel access to everything to make secret social scores to use against the population.
So why did ICE detain her, and keep her locked up for so long? A possible answer began to emerge over the weeks she was incarcerated. As Karen got to know the guards at the Northwest ICE Processing Center where she was held, she kept hearing the same thing from them: that ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone. “Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that,” Karen says.
It’s no secret that the Trump administration has been pouring money into ICE. Its annual budget – $6bn a decade ago – is now $85bn; ICE is now the highest -funded law enforcement agency in the US. Since last August, new recruits can expect to receive a signing-on bonus of up to $50,000. Karen’s experience has left her convinced that ICE agents are being given even more incentives – to arrest and detain anyone they possibly can, even blameless tourists who have all the paperwork they need to be in the US.
Knew they had sign-up bonuses, but had no idea that ICE agents were also given a bonus for locking people up - that's an absolutely perverse incentive for a job that should be as objective as possible.
No wonder innocent people are getting dragged off to detention centres (or worse), it literally pays for them to shoot now and ask questions later.
Also, the US government has $80 billion to throw at bloodthirsty hounds, but had to send DOGE to scrounge through various agencies to find a few billion? Something doesn't quite add up there, almost like the incentive wasn't finding money.
Trump needs his personal army, separated from the justice and military apparatus, if he pays ice to satisfaction he has the material and manpower to fight off a growing rebellion…
GreenShimada@lemmy.world
on 21 Feb 09:57
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JFC, this makes total sense. They love touting arrest numbers, not deportation numbers. This is how they’re able to make it happen.
The main objective of doge was to export all agency data to thiel et al’s private data banks. Their employees were recruited from those technofascist’s drug and sex fueled parties, as young men, or underage young men, that were groomed for it.
Cutting money was at most secondary, information is power and now thiel and whomever else have more than anyone else.
Currently, I wouldn’t want to go to USA even if you pay me. I literally put USA on same shit list as countries with prevalent terrorism and dictatorship that I’d never visit. Like Russia. Imagine being a western country and on that shit list…
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
on 21 Feb 13:40
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Please keep your country from turning into this shit hole.
switcheroo@lemmy.world
on 21 Feb 09:14
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Idk who needs to here it but Do Not Come Here. For your own good, cancel plans if you had them. If you have a work event, tell them you feel unsafe (because you sure af will be if you come to a fascist country).
It is not safe.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 21 Feb 09:30
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They knew what’s going on in US and still tried to cross the border with invalid visa (she had a valid visa but her husband’s expired). There’s a word for that: idiots.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 21 Feb 19:29
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“Don’t worry honey, if they stop us only I will go to the concentration camp. You will continue enjoying your holiday”.
…
“Oh no! They sent both of us to a concentration camp! Who could predicted that? I though ICE is following the law and never abuses their powers. Poor us!”
I think this ladies entire story speaks a bit to how modern day fascism is working and how our analysis of it is flawed in some ways when looking at the past.
Racial supremacy and the core parts of fascism are still at the root of it. However, the fact that an elderly white British couple can be subject to this form of “just doing my job” ICE agents bringing them to these conditions. I think it should be a wake up call to anyone that thinks they “won’t be a target”.
The current form of fascism is based on the vague notion of a “woke” or “demostic terrorist” or whatever. Any person can fall into these vague definitions.
The “first they came for the communist” in an era when everyone from Nancy Pelosi to Xi Jingping is labeled as one. Well, there is no meaning to it. You will get marked as a dissonant and be treated as such. Not even your MAGA hat will save you if you give the wrong answers. We are truly hitting the false comfort of the “loyal German” when they were asked “papers please”.
lol no country is not going to send their team, and most of their fans are excited to watch them play, they don’t give a shit about the politics of it.
The last two were in Russia and Qatar. A pattern has already formed.
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
on 21 Feb 18:15
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yeah, as an outside observer who only sees most sports through headlines and conversation i know three things about the sport. lionel messi, 7-1, and the world cup is horribly corrupt.
The second part of that title isn’t needed in my opinion.
“Don’t go to the us…for a good decade or so. And only then if they realise just how fucked things were during the orange child rapist years.”
HubertManne@piefed.social
on 21 Feb 18:54
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if the republicans exist as a party I would stay away.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 Feb 12:44
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uhm, duh doy
yea man as much as i hate victim blaming i really want people to NOT dress themselves in a toga stitched together out of raw meat before they leap down into the pit of starving hyenas >.>
i wouldn’t be so mean as to call that attempted tourist stupid but i would sympathetically tell them “that’s rough buddy” before gesturing in their direction to address others with “please don’t do what they did.”
man out of all that’s wrong with this I couldn’t imagine how upset I’d be that I’d have wasted vacation time for this, it wouldn’t be the biggest problem but it would be in the back of my head constantly like “wow sure is nice that I took time off work to be grabbed by americia’s new slave catchers”
Having been to Yellowstone I can say that that experience is ALMOST worth what she went through.
The buffalo really do just come up to your car and YES they will fucking charge you. At least this couple got to enjoy that.
Seriously, though. Spent a week at Yellowstone and could go another ten times and see new things each time. Just absolutely a beautiful gem of America and unlike any place I’ve been.
You have to be clinically insane to go to the US now.
“I was aware”, she says. What’s the definition of insanity again?
You don’t understand. She just never thought it would impact her personally. Get it?
🙃
The leopards don’t recognize citizenship or immigration status, only net worth.
Some people also visit North Korea. Is that insane too?
Of course.
Are you suggesting it isn’t…???
I’m just thinking that people with extreme tastes might want to visit USA exactly because there’s a good chance you’ll never return.
yes(???)
Fuck the Trump administration, but also fuck this privileged bitch in particular
What makes her a privileged bitch? She had a visa, she entered the country legally. In any other non-fascist country this wouldn’t have happened.
She was aware it happened to others and despite evidence to the contrary just bought the US government’s narrative that those all were illegals and criminals.
I understand your feelings but you should place your rage at the systems and structures of white privilege. Being upset at some random old white removed believing in her privilege is not helpful.
Though it does feel good to vent out that rage sometimes. I get it.
So when are countries like the UK (and my own Australia) going to update official government travel advice to warn against travel to America?
Holy shit we have it at level 1.
www.smartraveller.gov.au/…/united-states-america
The UK is level 2.
www.smartraveller.gov.au/…/united-kingdom
That's gotta be a joke right?
The US Government is quite literally sending bloodthirsty hounds against their own people, and dragging innocent tourists off to detention centres for no reason, yet the UK is rated worse due to the couple of terror attacks we've had over the last year??
I think I know where I'd rather take my chances as a tourist. Yikes.
The UK is speedrunning the US to fascism, and they are ahead, even if they don’t have a blowhard running the show, just a traitorous mealy mouthed tool of the oligarchy. Cancelling the magna carta, the right to protest, defenses to decades in prison for protesting, bad faith terror designations by their corrupts lawmakers, a masterbaitorbase, age controls, the last two of which to give Thiel access to everything to make secret social scores to use against the population.
Remember when everyone was up in arms against China for their social credit score? I guess it’s fine as long as it’s administered by a billionaire.
and now they plan on making vpn use illegal without doxxing the user prior to internet use.
Knew they had sign-up bonuses, but had no idea that ICE agents were also given a bonus for locking people up - that's an absolutely perverse incentive for a job that should be as objective as possible.
No wonder innocent people are getting dragged off to detention centres (or worse), it literally pays for them to shoot now and ask questions later.
Also, the US government has $80 billion to throw at bloodthirsty hounds, but had to send DOGE to scrounge through various agencies to find a few billion? Something doesn't quite add up there, almost like the incentive wasn't finding money.
DOGE was to cut agencies tasked with enforcing regulations. Specifically, but not limited to agencies that hurt Elon’s bottom line.
Their actual job is to instill fear.
It’s not just Trump. Americans in general will do anything for money.
USA culture is capitalism.
Because we need it to meet our basic needs. The other option is death.
Trump needs his personal army, separated from the justice and military apparatus, if he pays ice to satisfaction he has the material and manpower to fight off a growing rebellion…
JFC, this makes total sense. They love touting arrest numbers, not deportation numbers. This is how they’re able to make it happen.
The main objective of doge was to export all agency data to thiel et al’s private data banks. Their employees were recruited from those technofascist’s drug and sex fueled parties, as young men, or underage young men, that were groomed for it.
Cutting money was at most secondary, information is power and now thiel and whomever else have more than anyone else.
Currently, I wouldn’t want to go to USA even if you pay me. I literally put USA on same shit list as countries with prevalent terrorism and dictatorship that I’d never visit. Like Russia. Imagine being a western country and on that shit list…
Please keep your country from turning into this shit hole.
Idk who needs to here it but Do Not Come Here. For your own good, cancel plans if you had them. If you have a work event, tell them you feel unsafe (because you sure af will be if you come to a fascist country).
It is not safe.
They knew what’s going on in US and still tried to cross the border with invalid visa (she had a valid visa but her husband’s expired). There’s a word for that: idiots.
I’m sorry, did you miss this part?
“Don’t worry honey, if they stop us only I will go to the concentration camp. You will continue enjoying your holiday”.
…
“Oh no! They sent both of us to a concentration camp! Who could predicted that? I though ICE is following the law and never abuses their powers. Poor us!”
I think this ladies entire story speaks a bit to how modern day fascism is working and how our analysis of it is flawed in some ways when looking at the past.
Racial supremacy and the core parts of fascism are still at the root of it. However, the fact that an elderly white British couple can be subject to this form of “just doing my job” ICE agents bringing them to these conditions. I think it should be a wake up call to anyone that thinks they “won’t be a target”.
The current form of fascism is based on the vague notion of a “woke” or “demostic terrorist” or whatever. Any person can fall into these vague definitions.
The “first they came for the communist” in an era when everyone from Nancy Pelosi to Xi Jingping is labeled as one. Well, there is no meaning to it. You will get marked as a dissonant and be treated as such. Not even your MAGA hat will save you if you give the wrong answers. We are truly hitting the false comfort of the “loyal German” when they were asked “papers please”.
come again?
hey, it could have been worse…demoistic terrorist
I can’t wait for the Fifa world cup to start and see how disastrous that’s going to be, I’m hoping some countries would boycott and not play.
lol no country is not going to send their team, and most of their fans are excited to watch them play, they don’t give a shit about the politics of it.
You think too highly of them.
The last two were in Russia and Qatar. A pattern has already formed.
yeah, as an outside observer who only sees most sports through headlines and conversation i know three things about the sport. lionel messi, 7-1, and the world cup is horribly corrupt.
i think even north korea might be safer to go at this point
If NK had enough bribery money, FIFA would already have had it there…
The second part of that title isn’t needed in my opinion.
“Don’t go to the us…for a good decade or so. And only then if they realise just how fucked things were during the orange child rapist years.”
if the republicans exist as a party I would stay away.
Google voluntarily gave his info to ice.
Well, at least she got the full murica experience. Yellowstone, Vegas, roughed up and thrown in an ICE detention center for 6 weeks…🙃
Authoritourism
maye with the right kink?
So if I read this right
They left the states and couldn’t return because the guys visa wasn’t valid anymore, but Canada turned them away because of the car.
At that point you should probably apply for asylum now and refuse to go back to where you don’t have valid papers anymore.
Or have the person with no longer valid papers walk through if they’ll let you and the other person go back.