wildtamaskan@pawb.social
on 24 Mar 20:44
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A group of settlers just lynched Hamdan Ballal
There isn’t a better way to describe this. This is a straight-up lynching. The only thing being left out is him being publicly executed. Knowing the govt, this is a very real possibility.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 24 Mar 22:23
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He was arrested in the same way ICE arrested Mahmoud Khalil.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
on 25 Mar 12:53
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When Israel does it they use the nice words.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
on 25 Mar 17:27
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Only IDF terrorists can be kidnapped, from a tank for example
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
on 24 Mar 21:28
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At this point, I think the only path to “peace” is a 2 state solution based on 1967 borders and settlers get one hour to decide whether they want to get on the last bus back to Israel or stay in Palestine and see how it feels when the turntables have turned exactly one π radians.
Israel wants to expand to become a “Greater Israel” reaching form the Nile to Anatolia and including half of the Arabian peninsula all the way until the Persian golf.
Israels long term vision is to annihilate Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran and the Gulf States and defeat Turkey militarily.
A two state solution in the 1967 borders would only be possible, if Israel is militarily contained by a permanent military force inside a buffer zone inside its borders and strict control of weapons, industry and technology being allowed in.
Appeasement against an expansionist settler colonial fascist nation does not work. Appeasing Nazi Germany has failed and they kept expanding until the world united to defeat them.
Why does Israel want to push the Palestinians into Sinai? First to annex Gaza. But they know there will be resistance forming in Sinai. Then they get to “defend themselves” by annexing Sinai. The same game is played towards Lebanon and Syria.
By shrugging at Israels invasion of Syria, the EU countries have moved another step on a devastating path for Europe. Israel will push for war with Syria and Lebanon. They will push for dozens of millions of Arab refugees to destabilize Turkey and they will push for the influx of Refugees to Europe to give a final rise to Fascist governments in the EU, which then will help them to exterminate the Arabs in a Genocide that will dwarf the Holocaust.
Unless the EU gets itself together now and removes every and all support for Israel and imposes a total arms and economic blockade, Israel will set West Asia ablaze in a way that the fire will also consume Europe.
The only path for peace, is Israel being cut from the world, no more money, no more political protection, no more economical relation then a one state solution should be imposed and people responsible from atrocities against civilians from both side being punished
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
on 25 Mar 16:32
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I think there can be 2 states as long as certain people get thier comeuppance. Israel can and should exist. Palestine can and should exist. But if far right religious fanatics are open hand slapped in the face for global television audiences, peace is achievable. Some people need to be slapped before lasting peace is possible.
No one likes Hamas. No one likes Likud and friends. But a solid, televised open hand slap would unite the world.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
on 25 Mar 17:29
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Israel can and should exist.
I love ethnostates!
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
on 25 Mar 18:47
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I have very little connection to the past, personally, so I think of people as individuals and no one is responsible for the sins of the British Empire but the people alive then. A 25 year-old Israeli is just as removed from the Nakba as I am from the 7 Years War (aka the the French-Indian War in American textbooks).
Some people can trace their lineage back 50 generations and I love that. I had a project in college where we were supposed to make a family history. It was a population geography class and the professor was great. But I was like, “Shit, I know everyone was Cajun but I don’t know how they ended up in Louisiana.” I was at the Library of Congress looking up boat records on Microfiche trying to figure out who went to Quebec to be a fur trapper or whatever.
So, I put less weight on the past and more on the future. How can we get Palestinians autonomy and control over their land and water. The concept of someone not being able to get a passport because of bullshit from 80 years ago is anathema to me. We live in the future and we can’t right the wrongs of the past. But we can write the future.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
on 25 Mar 20:26
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I’m not talking about the past, I’m talking about the present and the general concept of Israel overall.
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There isn’t a better way to describe this. This is a straight-up lynching. The only thing being left out is him being publicly executed. Knowing the govt, this is a very real possibility.
Technically, in a lynching a mob kidnaps a suspect from police custody—this was more of a reverse lynching. (Same ultimate intent, though.)
Why do they call it arrested and not kidnapped? What’s the difference in these cases?
Very good point. I mean they’re going to incriminate him for terrorism and/or association with Hamas for sure anyway
taken hostage
He was arrested in the same way ICE arrested Mahmoud Khalil.
When Israel does it they use the nice words.
Only IDF terrorists can be kidnapped, from a tank for example
At this point, I think the only path to “peace” is a 2 state solution based on 1967 borders and settlers get one hour to decide whether they want to get on the last bus back to Israel or stay in Palestine and see how it feels when the turntables have turned exactly one π radians.
Israel wants to expand to become a “Greater Israel” reaching form the Nile to Anatolia and including half of the Arabian peninsula all the way until the Persian golf.
Israels long term vision is to annihilate Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran and the Gulf States and defeat Turkey militarily.
A two state solution in the 1967 borders would only be possible, if Israel is militarily contained by a permanent military force inside a buffer zone inside its borders and strict control of weapons, industry and technology being allowed in.
Appeasement against an expansionist settler colonial fascist nation does not work. Appeasing Nazi Germany has failed and they kept expanding until the world united to defeat them.
Why does Israel want to push the Palestinians into Sinai? First to annex Gaza. But they know there will be resistance forming in Sinai. Then they get to “defend themselves” by annexing Sinai. The same game is played towards Lebanon and Syria.
By shrugging at Israels invasion of Syria, the EU countries have moved another step on a devastating path for Europe. Israel will push for war with Syria and Lebanon. They will push for dozens of millions of Arab refugees to destabilize Turkey and they will push for the influx of Refugees to Europe to give a final rise to Fascist governments in the EU, which then will help them to exterminate the Arabs in a Genocide that will dwarf the Holocaust.
Unless the EU gets itself together now and removes every and all support for Israel and imposes a total arms and economic blockade, Israel will set West Asia ablaze in a way that the fire will also consume Europe.
The only path for peace, is Israel being cut from the world, no more money, no more political protection, no more economical relation then a one state solution should be imposed and people responsible from atrocities against civilians from both side being punished
I think there can be 2 states as long as certain people get thier comeuppance. Israel can and should exist. Palestine can and should exist. But if far right religious fanatics are open hand slapped in the face for global television audiences, peace is achievable. Some people need to be slapped before lasting peace is possible.
No one likes Hamas. No one likes Likud and friends. But a solid, televised open hand slap would unite the world.
I love ethnostates!
I have very little connection to the past, personally, so I think of people as individuals and no one is responsible for the sins of the British Empire but the people alive then. A 25 year-old Israeli is just as removed from the Nakba as I am from the 7 Years War (aka the the French-Indian War in American textbooks).
Some people can trace their lineage back 50 generations and I love that. I had a project in college where we were supposed to make a family history. It was a population geography class and the professor was great. But I was like, “Shit, I know everyone was Cajun but I don’t know how they ended up in Louisiana.” I was at the Library of Congress looking up boat records on Microfiche trying to figure out who went to Quebec to be a fur trapper or whatever.
So, I put less weight on the past and more on the future. How can we get Palestinians autonomy and control over their land and water. The concept of someone not being able to get a passport because of bullshit from 80 years ago is anathema to me. We live in the future and we can’t right the wrongs of the past. But we can write the future.
I’m not talking about the past, I’m talking about the present and the general concept of Israel overall.