Musk accuses Ukraine leader of ‘feeding off dead bodies of soldiers’ in vicious rant
(www.independent.co.uk)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 2025 15:32
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from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 2025 15:32
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Summary
Elon Musk accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of “feeding off the dead bodies of soldiers” and falsely claimed he is “despised” by Ukrainians, echoing Donald Trump’s rhetoric.
Musk also threatened changes to X’s Community Notes after fact-checkers refuted his claims. Trump and Musk’s remarks align with Russian propaganda, prompting European leaders to reaffirm support for Ukraine.
Observers rejected claims that Ukraine is a dictatorship, emphasizing that its wartime election suspension is both legal and justified, similar to the UK’s approach during World War II.
Critics argue Musk’s stance undermines free speech and factual discourse while aiding Kremlin narratives against Ukraine.
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What a fascist cunt.
Man I just love that our dumb fuck leaders are regurgitating Kremlin lies for our dumb fuck citizens to lap up like dogs.
I heard his approval rating is insanely low for a president this early in their term. Unfortunately it doesn’t mean so much now but at least there are folks in the USA not lapping it up, no idea where they were on election day though.
It doesn’t matter how low it is, he has that 30% locked in.
It will literally take him destroying their lives for any of them to change, and a bulk of them will still never change, much like the COVID deniers who denied it’s existence up to their last breath when COVID killed them.
-Carl Sagan
God damn, Carl Sagan 360 no scoping the 2020s from the 80s and 90s.
Yeah Sagan did that kind of a lot.
This is such a fantastic and prescient book.
It also doesn’t matter 'cause they got elected, so they don’t care anymore. They’ll spend the next two years transferring as much power to the Whitehouse as possible, so that it doesn’t even matter in the midterms. The very clearly will try to get a third term movement going. It’s straight out of the Hungarian and Belarussian playbook - it’s not fantasy.
According to projects.fivethirtyeight.com/…/donald-trump/ he still has a net positive rating.
The great thing is that it doesn’t matter how high that disprove number goes, he’s already in power as is Musk who we didn’t even vote for.
Absolutely true, yes.
No need to insult the dogs, bro. “lap up like MAGAts” will do fine.
I’d gladly take a cabinet of golden retrievers over what we go.
Block X.
Any country that is running an election needs to block X right away.
100% why tf is this man given so much power?
Money.
So much money that my brain is incapable of truly understanding what it would look like in cash.
His net worth is about 17% of all the cash in circulation in the US. One asshole.
Which is a fun trivia but a bit irrelevant. His net worth is in overvalued tesla shares, it’s not like his owns 17% of all dollar bills, stored in a huge swimming pool.
For a brief while, Max Fosh had a higher net worth than him.
Just to give you some perspective. One hundred million dollars in 100 dollar bills would be a pallet stacked about 4 feet high. A semi trailer could hold about 56 of those pallets, or $5.6B. As of today, Forbes says Elon is worth $384B, which would be about 68.5 semi trailers full of $100 bills.
But I’m sure more would materially improve his life.
Sources:
Visualizing f a billion dollars
Forbes real-time billionaire list
Because no one has the sack to put a stop to it.
Trump is out for blood this term, and even the slightest hint of dissention will get you fired and dragged through the razors.
Other than pandering, notice how quiet the GOP has been lately.
Seriously, what’s the point in keeping it around? There’s really very little if any upside.
Block
XElon.I also block any news source that uses X as the main delivery of whatever their article was about. It’s been a bloodbath.
It still baffles me that the party that wraps itself in the American flag and calls themselves “Patriots” seem to have no problem what so ever in letting a non-elected immigrant run the country.
It baffles me that a “news” site with a storm trooper helmet is treated as a source in that tweet.
T the irony of storm troopers being empire drones representing “freedom” of any sort.
*Non-elected illegal immigrant
Non-elected illegal white immigrant.
Checkmate, atheists!
If your personal tastes lean towards treason, maybe the Republican party is right for you.
Every person, every business on this fascist propaganda sewer is now on The List. Time’s up.
Oh you need it for - Don’t care. It’s a good tool to - Don’t care. OFF. NOW.
Sounds like the rantings of a mad man tripping on ketamine and coke
The only part of this that surprises me is that it didn’t happen sooner. Musk is so thin-skinned that he’s indistinguishable from an anatomical model of a human.
He knows we can talk to the people of Ukraine, doesn’t he? Like, it’s not like the olden days where very few people ever directly communicated with people from other countries. You can’t just pretend we don’t know how they feel about stuff.
Elections are suspended because no one has time to “run an election”. Basically, that is not at all what is important right now. A much larger and more powerful country is literally trying to erase them. It’s so far failing to do so in a staggering way that is probably super embarrassing. Ukraine is not doing OK in the grander sense, of course, but they are doing way better than anyone would have expected, especially the Ukrainian people. Zelensky has managed to maintain both support and respect, but more importantly, morale.
Zelensky is a big problem to Russia, you know how you can tell? Listen to Elon and Trump talk about him…
And also (if I’ve understood correctly) it’s straight up impossible by Ukrainian laws to run elections when martial law is active. They’ll hold democratic elections eventually and choose the next president but until then Zelenskyi is sitting president. Things run just like their laws mandate.
In some other country there’s memecoin agency operating without any legal oversight with considerable power, maybe look on to that first…
It´s why they want a cease fire and a peace agreement, so martial law stops and elections can start again. That doesn´t do away with the whole discussion about what regions of Ukraine are then valid to do an election, such as Crimea, or what to do with all the refugees in other countries.
Did Crimear participate in the last election?
Remember how everyone applauded him for giving starlink to Ukraine? Yeah…
“Giving” as in “US military paid them and Elon took credit for it”.
Right? Overpaid for by a lot, too. Just so he could turn it off whenever his buddy Putin asked.
Henceforth known as the actual Jewish Space Laser.
Then tell Russia to stop sending soldiers. It takes two to tango.
Though, given the many sexual harassment/assault allegations against him, maybe he doesn’t.
If by now you’re still on X, you’re actively part of the problem. No more excuses.
Have you found an alternative where I can follow most public personalities that I currently follow on X?
Edit 4 days later: I came across openportability.org and used it to gather my following list on X and follow them on Bluesky and Mastodon. 3 people found on Bluesky and 0 on Mastodon…
So you’ll keep giving money to Musk because X is convenient?
I don’t give money to Musk.
Not directly, but you’re contributing to the profit of the platform.
Yes, nobody’s perfect.
I just want you to make an informed decision mate
Thank you. I asked in good faith, I am exploring Mastodon and looking for the accounts I follow on X but a lot are missing unfortunately.
Getting people to switch is honestly a little complicated. People haven’t switched to Mastodon because the accounts they follow aren’t on Mastodon, but the accounts aren’t on Mastodon because the people who follow them aren’t there.
If you want to help, it might be beneficial to reach out to the accounts you follow and tell them you’d like to see them on Mastodon too.
That’s a good idea!
There’s perfect, and then there’s “Sure I’m supporting a genocidal, Nazi lunatic destroying global democracy, but like… how else will I hear about what public personalities had for lunch?”.
Not sure the bar could be any lower.
Do you eat animals?
Beautiful whataboutism. Absolutely beautiful.
Answer the fucking question.
The person I was discussing with stated he’s not sure the car could be any lower, to which I reply it can be.
Eating animals contributes to the killing of billions of land animals and tens of billions of fish on a yearly basis. Most of them are raised in terrible conditions in factory farms.
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”.
Trying to justify your whataboutism doesn’t change the fact that it is a whataboutism.
How many cheeseburgers do i have to eat before i start supporting Nazis?
So when that person wonders if the bar could be any lower, how can one respond without bringing up another comparable scenario?
Trying to justify your whataboutism doesn’t change the fact that it is a whataboutism.
How many cheeseburgers do i have to eat before i start supporting Nazis?
“You support Nazis.”
“I do. Nobody’s perfect.”
I do not support Nazis.
When your life is perfect, you can criticize me.
No. I can call out your support of Nazis without being an angel. It’s your actions that are getting criticized, not you.
Try again.
Unless your actions are irreproachable in all aspects of life, focus on bettering yourself first.
Great advice from someone that openly admits to supporting a Nazi website because they can’t be arsed with missing a tweet from Billie Eilish.
I don’t know who Billie Eilish is.
Well in the West, you would know that she’s a singer.
Singer is a stretch. She does ASMR with music accompaniment.
You don’t support them ideologically, but you are supporting one by giving ad viewership and personal data revenue to Elon Musk. Supporting a Nazi doesn’t just mean you post good things about them online, and talk good about them in person. You support them monetarily by using their platform.
First of all it remains to be seen whether Elon Musk is a Nazi. How many people have been sent to concentration camps recently?
Furthermore, you are talking about indirect support. I’m pretty sure you also indirectly support monetarily services and countries you disagree ideologically with.
Lol, it remains to be seen if the dude throwing Nazi salutes is a nazi
It has been seen.
Yes and when I recognize my avenues of support, I switch away and stop supporting things I don’t like. I don’t make excuses to keep using Dogshit.
How many people have been sent to camps by the alleged Nazis?
Oh really? So you’re consuming nothing that comes from the US? By the way, do you participate in the animal genocide? Billions slaughtered every year…
Soon to be 40,000 immigrants sent to Guantanamo, and 40,000 more to be put in the worst El Salvadorian prison, even if they are not El salvadorian.
This is a classist argument, this is not something you can even often choose to do if you live in a food desert, or are too impoverished to afford anything more than the subsidized US factory made scraps. It costs nothing to quit Twitter on the other hand, you’re just an addict.
But! I’m lucky enough to have local farmer’s markets out every day near me, and the money to support them. Why would I not consume from the U.S.? I get to see the farms I buy from and meet these people, I have fed peanuts to Praggle’s alpacas and pet their cows. They are local and I have seen that they don’t abuse their animals, so I support them, yes. They treat their animals right and I buy their shit. I also don’t digest gluten and have to make essentially everything I eat myself because of that so it’s not even entirely an option for me to buy processed mass manufactured garbage.
Thank you for confirming 0 people have been sent to camps.
So you do participate in the animal genocide, you don’t even feel bad about it. Seems to me you quickly forgot about not making excuses… I’m not surprised though.
Jesus fucking christ
I thought he was dead
You should keep reading, you’ll like the plot twist…
He came back to life, then popped out for milk and a packet of cigs and will have been back any minute now for the last twenty centuries, pinky swear promise
A lot of them are on Bluesky by now, and the rest? Fuck em
Exactly. Bluesky is not ideal by any means, and could turn into a another “X” down the line, but it’s the best alternative to avoid it right now. It’s also pretty popular, with some posts from famous people raking in as much engagement as Edgelord Musk on X.
Any public personality that stays on x is not worth following.
Yeah, your local gas station gossip magazine you pop culture addict
Why are you mean?
What public figure are you following on exclusively Twitter that is important enough to stay there?
About 80 journalists, politicians and political analysts.
As suggested by a couple helpful people here I will check if they have blue sky accounts and will encourage them to setup a Mastodon account.
He cant get one. They don’t has gas station gossip magazines in Russia.
Why are you mean?
Why are you still on a Nazi site?
Because that is where most politicians and political commentators are.
Out of curiosity, if Kanye West opens a book club for reading Mein Kampf, would you join it to keep up to date with unfiltered political analysis by a piece of shit? If the answer is no, maybe you should reconsider your stance on X.
I am not interested in Kanye West’s opinions.
Per your other comment
I see where the cognitive dissonance kicks in. You do not want to be mistaken for a nazi sympathizer, but refuse to distance yourself from them on some basis of believed plausible deniability. Is it perhaps because you are indeed sympathetic to some of their fascist talking points?
What? I’ve never cared about Kanye West.
Never said you did. However, we are indeed using that shithead to bisect your weird affection for X and the comparable shithead Elon Musk.
LOL I don’t have a weird affection for X nor Elon Musk. It’s weird to suggest that.
He talks like a nazi, walks like a nazi and does sieg heil like a nazi. Yet you say that the verdict is still out on him being a nazi. Being this ignorant is usually willful and your reservations about being truthful about him does not portray you well. “Weird affection” was the nicest interpretation I could think of.
Elon Musk doesn’t hate the Jews nor does he wish to expand German territory. Weren’t those pillars of the Nazi ideology?
You cannot take the cultural characteristics of the original nazi movement as a metric to measure whether someone is a neo-nazi or not. Those were the pillars of nazism then, but are not accurate to determine whether someone is a nazi today.
Mind that due to inherent contradictions within the brainrotten ideology of nazis and no nation state (yet) to put forward its flavor as the neo-nazi ideology, the term cannot by nature be anything but an unbrella term of mutual and internal conflicting ideas.
Interesting. So what does it mean to be a neo-nazi?
Stop sealioning and use a search engine?
The search engine results do not fit your narrative…
Neo-Nazism comprises the post–World War IImilitant, social, and political movements that seek to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and racial supremacy (often white supremacy), to attack racial and ethnic minorities (often antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state.[1][2]
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Sure thing, buddy! That picture is definitely not from the neo-nazi party AfD that Musk supports and says is Germany’s only hope.
You still haven’t defined what “Neo-Nazi” means…
Really? You need these personalities in your life?
I like to stay informed about politics and prefer to read content straight from politicians and political analysts.
They probably have websites where they post news
Many, like Régis Le Sommer, do not.
Or like a content aggregator where people post links to news and discuss it. I wonder where I can find one of them,
You might have to miss out for a bit, but once they start noticing a significant drop they’ll move somewhere else. People with “public personalities” want to be seen and heard, they’ll go where people can see and hear them.
I’m willing to miss out on a few of them if I can find most of them somewhere else.
I will delete my account as soon as I get the chance. I mean I don’t use it at all, but I think it’s important now to actively remove it.
I can’t remember my user name. To reset my password I need to enter my user name…
Can’t you enter the email you used to sign up?
Either way, you probably could use a password manager in your life ✨😁✨ Life changer.
I only want to access the account so I can delete it.
Right. You want to login so you can delete it. Try the email you used to sign up, instead of the username. 🙂
Edit: I’m dumb. Right, you’re stuck. 🫠 That’s a shame.
Fuck that south African Nazi scum
One is defending his homeland from an oppressive and authoritarian regime.
The other sells cars that drive people into walls and fire trucks, then cancels the people investigating and regulating his company.
Who feeds off dead bodies?
Happy cake day.
It’s literally the geopolitical version of “Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?”
In a country known for guns, poor mental health care and prideful morons you’d figure this fuck face would be dead already. No one willing to take one for the team, eh? Me either.
Tbh, at this point if it was the Army I wouldn’t even see it as a coup
I bought some tesla puts lol. Literally banking on this.
So, how are Tesla sales today?
I have to say I find this somewhat curious. Why is Musk aligning with Putin? I don’t think it’s just to echo Trump, but I also don’t see how it’s in his interest to do so. Being pro-russian is not exactly popular among Americans, across the whole political spectrum, and neither it is among allied nations. Does Putin have some kind of insane leverage, or what’s in it for Musk?
Is he just so deep in his delusion that the world is his own shitposting messageboard that he’s too busy being edgy to realize he’s committing suicide?
He sees a model of oligarchy he likes. What else is needed? He has more money than anyone could ever spend in a thousand lifetimes. But now he has power, and it was so, so easy for him.
I think this is it, Musk is playing a different game than most of the others.
He knows that there are very few dollars left to squeeze out of the free market… So he is getting in on the ground floor of a new type of oligarch fascism he likes. Now he can not only control his competition, but the very basis of USD value itself… If you the think his stock market and crypto scams were bad, you haven’t seen nothing yet.
There is lots of money left, but after you used the cheat code and have unlimited money what is the point for a megalomaniac. The only way he can move forward is to make everyone poorer. This is the new plan.
I don’t think Musk is aligning with Putin. The crux of the issue is European countries do not have a plan. They provide very limited support to Ukraine which results in many Ukrainian casualties and loss of territory day after day.
Allegedly, he was given liquid capital by Russian oligarchs to buy Twitter when the courts ruled that he was obligated to buy it. He might be rich, but that kind of money wasn’t just sitting in his checking account. It was his company valuations.
Once he got tangled into Twitter, that’s when he seemed to really go off the deep end.
Falsely? Oh, he meant Zelensky, not himself. Nvm.
So, musk and co. are eating dead people. On brand.
If this were the 1930s, Musk would be blaming Poland for not submitting to the Nazis in the same way.
It’s so bizarre that this lunatic has managed to have any success in life. Any at all.
Not really. He was born wealthy, remember?
And went on to make a cult of fanatics.
Diamonds are forever, but emeralds are for fascists.
Did you forget the part of being born wealthy and handed everything?
wild way to spell russia.
HE HAS TO BE KILLED. IN MINECRAFT
there is NO OTHER REASONABLE OPTION
Also, Marc Bankston should be gleefully taking $400+B from him in slander and defamation lawsuits
allegedly
Ostrich fucker!
(in Minecraft)
Doesn’t really seem false by now. Zaluzhny was more popular and seemed to have some plan. Zelensky used the fact that said plan seemed a compromise worse than Ukraine can get at the time, to press Zaluzhny out. Ukraine really has spent some time postponing elections.
Also let’s remember that under Poroshenko Ukraine was having steady military preparation and buildup, Zelensky didn’t add much and Zelensky’s approach to conflict, if anyone remembers, was almost pro-Russian (as in “we just have to stop shooting and talk”, and yes, it doesn’t seem there was a better plan). Also for two weeks or more before the invasion it was in all the news that US and other governments think Russia is going to invade Ukraine.
Ukraine could have, you know, mobilized, taken this seriously.
I’m of an opinion that Zelensky initially was a Russian trojan horse for Ukraine, similarly to Pashinyan for Armenia. Except Pashinyan did his job well and Armenia is on its knees, while Zelensky kinda failed to do that because of existence of well-prepared (at that point in time) military and western support.
This may seem satanic, but since Russia is grinding to shit its own troops in Ukraine, suggesting that a government or a faction interested in their country becoming again a Russian puppet is grinding its troops intentionally too - doesn’t seem so stupid, I’ll explain why - the military is basically where most of patriotic and volunteer work went in Ukraine since 2014. It’s in some sense an institution such a government would try to damage as badly as possible.
Also notice how rumors about corruption in Ukraine’s military (not taking about the rest of the government, that part is not interesting, it’s an ex-Soviet state) have been building up slowly in correlation with that military becoming less professional and weary, because of slowly losing competent people as direct casualties, by disability or even burnout.
OK, that’s my impression.
Over 50% approval rating.
Higher than the leader of many other countries, like, er, USA.
Better than feeding off the dead bodies of children, like Republicans do.
elon musk should make autonomous weapons. Don’t need to test, move fast and break things, will work fine:
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I don’t want to call for anything illegal here but Elon Musk has to go somehow or some way. He’s a danger to the western world. He is compromisable and a facist.
I am currently rooting for ketamine to win this battle in the war on drugs
Can you overdose on ketamine?
I heard you become anesthesized long before that. Maybe alcohol or cocaine can do it
I’ve injected a fair bit (accidentally) on one occasion. Took me a while to work out who I was and what had happened, but I was fine after a bit. But TBF you can overdose on pretty much anything if you take enough.
even water. There’s such a thing as water toxicity. It dilutes your electrolytes so much that you can die. But tbh, I think if you drank that much water, electrolytes are the least of your worries.
Yeah I’ve heard of people dying that way. I believe you can actually get something like drunkenness from water - although you’d have to drink a lot, and you’d probably die not long after experiencing the sensation.
Too much of anything is going to fuck someone up proper.
Why is anybody listening to that little Muskrat? Guy needs to be put in a rocket and shipped to Mars so we dont have to listen to his manic rantings. I feel sorry for his 12 kids .
Because money is speech and he has more of it to shove down the worlds throat than literally anyone else.
13 kids*
Instead of Mars how about straight into the void of space?
They are protecting their Homeland from invasion-Elon has other motives!!!
Holy shit Zelenskyy appears to have seriously triggered them.
I wonder if he said something to the effect of “no i will not participate in your stupid fake peace process, if you want to stop supporting us, say it with your full chest to your own country where I have a higher approval rating than you.”
Putin is putting a lot of pressure on them to make this deal. Elon’s kids could be kidnapped, or his parents. Putin isn’t messing around. They are in deep shit. What Elon keeps thinking is National Treasure meets The Hangover meets Austin Powers with him as this “funny but lovable” space villain who is just being a little rascal, is a delusion. And when Putin reminds him that this is actually real life with real consequences, it triggers his substance use issues and other narcissistic abuse issues. He is seriously in deep shit, they are messing with BRICS mafias and mobs that are part of official state governments that have nukes. It’s not good for them
Kidnapped? He probably lost track of the other 12 that he isn’t using as photo op props in the Oval Office.
That he has 12 kids means it’s easier and more likely one will be kidnapped than if he only had 2
I don’t get the impression he gives a shit about his kids.
Elon doesn’t care about anyone or anything other than getting richer… and himself of course.
He seems quite fond of little Kevlar.
And his investors and the board members of his companies do care at that type of negative press
I don’t think he cares about his children, he uses the current one as a human shield,
Elon has too many kids with random people and can easily become an asset/target
How wild is it that any women would let Elon sploodge inside her?
It’s fucking disgusting.
Wierd part is it was ivf. Dude is closet something.
howwebecameafamily.com/what-makes-all-of-elon-mus…
Elon has too many kids with random people and can easily become an asset/target
Doesn’t that asume he cares about his kids (in a capacity more than a human shield)?
An an American I agree, I think a exponentially more of Zelenakyy than fuck wit trump and Nazi musk
This all is not going to end well for Elon Musk.
Best case scenario this will not end well for Elon. Worst case scenario this will not end well for the world and we’ll all die in nuclear war or something.
This is literally a Russian talking point! “If you care about these soldiers, you’d end the war quickly!”
In other words, give Russia the land they stole and reward them for all the men, woman and children they have murdered, tortured, raped, and stolen as well as all the destruction they caused! If you do that, Russia will do this again, and it might be your country! Please support Ukraine because I think the US will actively help Putin now…
It’s because they are literally owned by Russia. Here’s an old post of mine with reputable sources: lemmy.world/comment/13431373
It’s either this, or the buzzwords using"Western countries did this or that", it’s the same thing tulsi said a while back on a poc right wingers channel
Insane how they’re not even trying to “both sides” it, saying the Russians have some culpability for the war. Nope, just shamelessly supporting a Russian dictator.
What drugs is that jackass on? Gotta be some wild shit with all the insane crap he spouts anymore
Ketamine.
Kremlinmine
Money and power.
Is it allowed to say that I honestly can’t wait to see Elon gone from this planet? What a piece of shit human being ugh
If you know anyone that uses twitter, try as hard as you can to take them out of there.
Somebody call a plumber!
Musk can suck my farts
Guys a loser who would be a hobo if he wasn’t born into money.
Musk is a grifter that has never created anything in his life m. He has leeched off other’s creations thanks to the emerald spoon he was born with
he’s often touted as a founder of Tesla, but he wasn’t a founder. He bought it. Much like all the other projects he’s got. He hasn’t created anything in his life. He was born rich, and inherited many many millions of dollars. He’s nazi scum.
Luck plays a part, but Musk does seem to be skilled in choosing the right people to give money to.
Yeah. Russian bodies mostly. That’s why he’s so angry.
I starting to genuinely wonder if we’ll see Musk getting executed in my lifetime. Either by lynching/angry mob Mussolini style or an actual judicial process leading to death penalty.
Ask Luigi.
We don’t need to ask Luigi.
He already showed us what to do. We can be even more effective than Luigi by just having more people rising up Caesar-style.
I think Trump might have him killed
Dare to dream.
The word “treason” used to mean something in this country
We can just send him back to Africa, in whatever condition.
We’re going to need one hell of a canon
Opinions of Nazi scum
Musk is a Nazi piece of shit.
totally, but this is a broken clock moment
Does he say the same about putin.
While this scumbag is acting president his companies should not be allowed to operate in the EU. Ban all of them and confiscate any EU based assets.
I’m sure Ukraine does hate Musk because he’s a piece of shit who parrots Russian propaganda and sells Starlink terminals to the Russian military
I do not understand why Ukraine, with Poland, continue to use Starlink. WTF, Leon is in bed with the fucking neo-Nazis and Russians.
No alternatives. And I’m not only talking about the military - some schools, kindergartners and other institutions use them in the places, where it would be very hard/impossible to use regular wired network.