Canada’s boycott of U.S. wines ‘causing devastating harm,’ California senator says
(www.ctvnews.ca)
from FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 20:15
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from FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 20:15
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cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/49310400
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I’m from Maine and took a road trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia recently. I stopped in a licquor store (the LC) and jokingly asked the cashiers where the bourbon was. They got a good chuckle out of that one.
Rideau Whiskey may not say it’s Bourbon on the bottle, but there’s bourbon in the bottle. Because of some dumb laws you can’t call it bourbon unless it’s made a certain region in the US, sort of like champagne. So we actually do have bourbon, even if it’s not called that.
Give it a gew years and we can maybe start repealing that legislation. No NAFTA? No more preferred trademarks.
It’s kind of like how sparking wine must come from the Champagne region of France to be termed Champagne.
Bourbon is just a naming convention for corn whiskey. I’m just finding out based on your post that Rideau Whiskey is in my neck of the woods, and I will have to try it! BRBN from Okanagan Spirits has been our recent treat - my husband really loves bourbon and this has hit the mark
Heres the legal requirements:
51+% corn
Aged in new, charred oak barrels
Produced in the U.S.
And then the generic proof ones.
So no, not every corn whisky is a Bourbon, although they may taste the same.
It’s fine stuff but if money is no object I’d rather have actual whiskey (with an ‘e’) anyway.
Too bad you didn’t take the opportunity to drink some Legendario, my favourite (so far) Cuban rum. Had my buddy in Nova Scotia bring me some a few months ago when he was coming out. Wish they sold it it my area but sadly they do not. Happily however I have friends
Huh
This like all the other trade that is disappearing to the EU is going to become a permanent change. Prior allies now view the US as an enemy and aggressor and are forming alternative routes of trade. This will not be returning just because the president is changed in the future. The relationship is over.
I can only hope that the US snaps back hard managing to show the world that there are still good people here…maybe after civil war 2 electric boogaloo
lol, still won’t be true after a civil war
Most of the good people that don’t just flee would be dead after a Civil War 2, leaving only proficient killers and crooks, or just cowards who keep their noses down. Large swathes of the country would be, for decades at least, one of “those places” that you never travel to and hear tales of barbarism from every now and then. Civil war would be a degradation, not a redemption arc.
Unless there is a Nuremberg style trial for the current administration, I don’t know how America can gain back it’s trust.
Even if Americans elect a president that is super helpful/generous to allies, there is always the chance that they elect another Trump in the following election who basically has almost free reign to do anything they want with no consequences.
The constitution that Americans beat over everyone’s heads has been revealed to be republican toilet paper.
Yeah, Trump has exposed how broken the American system is. He’s exposed American as completely incapable, or unwilling, of preventing a criminal enterprise from running the country into the ground.
I was thinking the other day how funny it is that the Untied States has had such wide influence that multiple IPs from other countries got movies made in America (Harry Potter, Smurfs, LEGO, The Handmaid’sTale). Now that Trump has ruined America’s relationship with the rest of the world, I wonder if we’ll see less of that
Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn’t such a great idea.
It's not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.
Californian here, and I would agree that CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
Yeah all those winery owners are rich conservatives
Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1
And sane people outnumber “reactionaries”/republicans. Your point?
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn’t to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
I’ve seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
You seem to be under the impression that I do not support Canadas boycott. I do. Re-read my comment.
Well it’s not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can’t individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.
California, home to the most evil and powerful companies in the world. Lmao.
Some of California votes consistently Republican. The whole state is not exempt.
Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
This would cause so much chaos
That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return
Also most countries like the UN rules
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US’s bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It’s not without merit either, as the “states rights” people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
It’s not a la carte dicks of America. It’s United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver’s seat is important and not just entertainment.
California is flush with right wing reactionaries and techno-fascist shitheads.
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
I mean for the rest of the world noone cares what individual states think and do. The president and his administration represent the American people.
Who could have foreseen this?
Oh, wait, we all could I’m sorry I have stroke nice doggy
And we all foresee things getting worse, yet it’s still being allowed to happen
What else am I going to drink when commenting here???
Oh, nice glad it’s working! ps fuck you
Canada did not cause anything…the usa did.
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Aw, are Americans sad that they’re being collectively judged and punished as an indistinct collective group?
… first time?
Maybe we should actually get our own house in order?
Just, you know, that?
That first?
No whining, no conditional explanations of layers and degrees of … nah, just… actually geting our shit together?
Actually taking some accountability?
We’re not being collectively judged and punished. Some number of American wine distributors are seeing a decline in their Canadian portfolios.
Why would the rest of us give a shit? That’s their problem, not ours.
It has cascading effects. Boycotts are kind of great like that and also it’s why they’re so highly propogandized against. “It doesn’t work bro, it won’t change anything. Why wouldn’t you just use google” don’t buy it. Boycott more stuff.
Reading this in Alex Jones voice
on some small, sad level i probably am the deranged left equivalent of Alex. but Tim Heidecker does it funnier
Can’t believe Alex exploded in his car like that. And now he’s got a clone?
Crazy days.
Nah you guys definitely are being judged
Everyone’s being judged.
I’m still judging you guys for inviting a real actual living 1930s fascist to your Parliament to applaud his work.
I mean, it was obviously a mistake but fair to judge even if it’s on a completely different scale to half your country eagerly electing a modern day pedophilic fascist a SECOND time who has proceeded to fuck over most of the world and repeatedly threatened to annex my country.
You could have mentioned Canada’s treatment of indigenous peoples and the residential schools that went on as late as the 1990s which would have also been a fair thing to judge (I judge it too) but I’m still going to judge the USA harshly for enthusiastically electing a shit starting demented pedo nazi
I’m not judging every American individually, some did try hard to prevent this mess, but I am judging America collectively for allowing this to happen. I’m sick of being told the vast majority were against Trump. If the VAST majority are against him, he’d have lost the election by a landslide. I don’t understand the weird political inertia in America that guarantees every major candidate roughly half the votes no matter what. And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn’t vote, as though that exonerates them. Choosing not to vote means they didn’t give a fuck if fascists took over.
The US disenfranchises voters with a variety of techniques. One of those techniques is to foster guarantee popular candidates aren’t afforded a place on the general election ballot.
If you’ve got nobody to vote for, I can’t blame you for not voting. Demanding people participate in a ritualized farce of democracy when the race is uncontested is pure foolishness.
No, we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief
Not only will I not buy us booze if back on the shelves but I actively avoid buying any american products if possible and I will never travel there again in my life time. Fuck the pedophile and all who support him and the others who are full of apathy and avarice and sit idly by.
Me, a Canada: “By not purchasing American wine, I am making a big difference in their foreign policy”
You, a 1⁰ increase in the average annual temperature: “Adorable”
Good, that’s the point.
Fuck Gretzky wines in particular.
“Put our booze back on your shelves! Also we don’t care and we don’t need you.”
Australia has far, far better wine, just saying :)
I feel bad for Americans who didn’t have much choice in Trump being elected. However that is tempered by the fact that they are not inudating their congressmen and senators to get rid of Trump. They are timidly waiting for the next set of elections hoping that will change things although Trump has already meddled enough that even a landslide vote against him may not change a single thing. Write, email, text and phone your elected officials and tell them to get rid of him.
Yeah, I made some phone calls too, but I haven’t gotten a response back yet
One of the things that bother me most is people clinging to the assumption that this will be over after the election. I can’t wait til November when either they’re proven wrong or I am, either way I guess something will change whether that be for better or for worse
Yes feel bad for us by helping us get rid of the chomo-in-chief by boycotting us. Yes we write our Congress and go to protests but they don’t care unless it affects their bottom line.
Good. Boycotts work. If any of you Americans out there are wondering how you can fight…boycotts work.
My neighbourhood grocery store and liquor store have both decided to stop stocking US goods.
I don’t miss anything. As a Canadian, this is more important to me.
Good.
A lot of the wines are out of California. Both the state as a whole and the wine-producing regions in it tend to not be too keen on Trump.
searches
wineamerica.org/policy/by-the-numbers/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_Country
pressdemocrat.com/…/an-early-look-at-the-trumphar…
I’m well aware. Wasn’t my point.
In either of those counties the minority percentages are the wealthy land owners who put huge Trump signs along the fences of their vinyards and orchards. They’re also the ones who hire the undocumented workers every season, but that’s a whole other discussion.
IDGAF rein in your boy Yankee scum
Cry more :)
Who do you think makes up that 33%?
Do you think it’s the normal people, or the obscenely wealthy vineyard owners? Take a wild guess.
Did you miss the part where we Canadians genuinely do not care?
I’m trying to use as few american products as I can. It is nit easy as they have infected everyday life too much.
Not buying Nestlé is much simpler
Nestle is evil but Swiss
Same, and i live here lmao
I won’t be buying a hovercraft either, so let them say I’m “causing devastating harm” to the hovercraft industry.
Oh no, the boycott we initiated with the explicit intention of causing DEVASTATING HARM is causing devastating harm. Fie on intended consequences!!!