Is it just me, or does something about the use of the word migrant instead of immigrant or refugee kinda dehumanize these people that died?
These people clearly aren’t migrants, that that means they move back and froth from their home country. So why has this word been so heavily used recently?
humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su
on 29 Aug 22:04
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It’s part of liberals trying to control what other people think by controlling what they say and read.
The reason why news outlets aren’t allowed to say “immigrant” anymore is because college-educated liberals don’t want people who oppose immigration to have words to support their case.
I say this as someone who loves immigration. The policing of language by the left does more harm than good and only serves to feed the egos of slacktivists, not actually change the world in any meaningful way.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Aug 04:40
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It’s because the word migrant makes no assumption on their intention. We only know they were migrating. We have no idea if they are immigrating or returning, or visiting temporarily. It’s not politically correct, it’s literally correct.
I am a college-educated liberal. On behalf of all our kind, I hereby officially grant news outlets and “other people” lifetime permission to use the word “immigrant” whenever someone is immigrating, e.g. because they have said they are doing so.
humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su
on 30 Aug 12:09
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News outlets will use migrant even if we know they are immigrants.
Sorry, you’re incorrect.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Aug 14:35
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Source?
humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su
on 31 Aug 09:50
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Do your own research.
If you’re trying to say that it doesn’t happen, then say it so we can all laugh at your ignorance.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 31 Aug 13:15
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I did my own research and found nothing along the lines of what you’re saying, sorry. Unless you provide a news article source we have literally no idea what you’re talking about and none of us are convinced of what you’re saying.
humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su
on 31 Aug 17:58
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Just so we’re clear, you think news outlets don’t use the word “migrant” in place of “immigrant” when the subject(s) is question are known to be immigrants or trying to immigrate?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 31 Aug 23:27
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I don’t know, never seen it but I have an open mind. The burden of proof is on the claimant, that is you. The default position is “I don’t know”, not yes or no. Your question, “yes or no” is known as a false dichotomy, a logical fallacy that is not convincing to me.
I claim there is a teacup flying around Saturn. Do you believe there is a teacup around Saturn without evidence? If you answer “no” do you need prove it? What proof do you require from me to believe the claim?
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Aug 22:37
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🦗
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Aug 13:43
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I say this as someone who loves immigration.
Press X to doubt.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world
on 30 Aug 06:53
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Migrant to me is the more accurate word.
Migration can be seen from 2 viewpoints, “emigration” and “immigration”. Depending if you are looking from the country of origin or the destination.
However, in this headline neither the origin nor the destination is mentioned, therefore it doesn’t make sense from either point of view. Therefore the viewpoint-agnostic “migrant” makes more sense to me.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
on 01 Sep 02:18
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We can promote them to “expats.”
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
on 29 Aug 23:34
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Testing me.
The struggle is real.
Say it.
Nice.
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No. It’s unfortunate.
TIL it is 3085km to Nice, France.
Is it just me, or does something about the use of the word migrant instead of immigrant or refugee kinda dehumanize these people that died?
These people clearly aren’t migrants, that that means they move back and froth from their home country. So why has this word been so heavily used recently?
It’s part of liberals trying to control what other people think by controlling what they say and read.
The reason why news outlets aren’t allowed to say “immigrant” anymore is because college-educated liberals don’t want people who oppose immigration to have words to support their case.
I say this as someone who loves immigration. The policing of language by the left does more harm than good and only serves to feed the egos of slacktivists, not actually change the world in any meaningful way.
It’s because the word migrant makes no assumption on their intention. We only know they were migrating. We have no idea if they are immigrating or returning, or visiting temporarily. It’s not politically correct, it’s literally correct.
I am a college-educated liberal. On behalf of all our kind, I hereby officially grant news outlets and “other people” lifetime permission to use the word “immigrant” whenever someone is immigrating, e.g. because they have said they are doing so.
News outlets will use migrant even if we know they are immigrants.
Sorry, you’re incorrect.
Source?
Do your own research.
If you’re trying to say that it doesn’t happen, then say it so we can all laugh at your ignorance.
I did my own research and found nothing along the lines of what you’re saying, sorry. Unless you provide a news article source we have literally no idea what you’re talking about and none of us are convinced of what you’re saying.
Just so we’re clear, you think news outlets don’t use the word “migrant” in place of “immigrant” when the subject(s) is question are known to be immigrants or trying to immigrate?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
I don’t know, never seen it but I have an open mind. The burden of proof is on the claimant, that is you. The default position is “I don’t know”, not yes or no. Your question, “yes or no” is known as a false dichotomy, a logical fallacy that is not convincing to me.
I claim there is a teacup flying around Saturn. Do you believe there is a teacup around Saturn without evidence? If you answer “no” do you need prove it? What proof do you require from me to believe the claim?
🦗
Press X to doubt.
Migrant to me is the more accurate word.
Migration can be seen from 2 viewpoints, “emigration” and “immigration”. Depending if you are looking from the country of origin or the destination.
However, in this headline neither the origin nor the destination is mentioned, therefore it doesn’t make sense from either point of view. Therefore the viewpoint-agnostic “migrant” makes more sense to me.
We can promote them to “expats.”
“Ni- Oh. Oh no.”
A lot of migrant boats capsize. Is someone poking holes from below?
Capsize means it flipped over. Holes in the bottom would just make it sink.