Lula Visits Chomsky Recovering from Stroke: “You Are One of the Most Influential People in My Life” (www.democracynow.org)
from jeffw@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 02:18
https://lemmy.world/post/17164192

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JTskulk@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 04:00 next collapse

I thought he was dead already.

jeffw@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:21 collapse

Wow that definitely wasn’t addressed in the first paragraph

whostosay@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:35 collapse

Arguably the tagline

nevemsenki@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:20 collapse

He died to me the day he stood with Putin and the invasion against Ukraine.

jeffw@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:26 collapse

I wouldn’t say heated with Putin but I do think he had some misguided conclusions about the invasion (honestly it’s been a while since I read his takes, but I remember being a bit confused and wondering if maybe he was losing his edge)

nevemsenki@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:30 collapse

According to Chomsky, Russia is acting with restraint and moderation. He compares Russia’s way of fighting with the US’s during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, arguing that large-scale destruction of infrastructure seen in that conflict “hasn’t happened in Ukraine”.

newstatesman.com/…/noam-chomsky-interview-ukraine…

Seems very unambiguous to me.

jeffw@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:37 collapse

Oof, that’s a bit worse than I recalled. The article seems to be saying that he just views Ukraine as a pawn in a US-Russia or NATO-Russia war, which doesn’t seem fair. Some of his conclusions would be fair if it were just a US-Russia war but it just isn’t.

nevemsenki@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 05:41 collapse

The feeling I get is his opposition/hate of the western world leaves him no room for nuance. Ukraine is helped by the west to defend against Russia = Ukriane has to be wrongand Russia has to be right.

Realising this also makes me question a lot about him, to be honest…

cmbabul@lemmy.world on 03 Jul 2024 11:21 collapse

Not defending his points on Ukraine at all but Chomsky has a bit of Kissinger energy, he’s obviously not that evil since as far as I know he’s committed zero war crimes compared to the hundreds Henry committed, but he does seem to have the ability to shift his intellect to get behind whatever he believes is the best vector to achieve the ends he’s deemed necessary without any moral qualms.