‘Israel never talked me into the war with Iran,’ Trump says
(www.aljazeera.com)
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United States President Donald Trump has denied being dragged into war with Iran by Israel as he faces increasing criticism over the conflict, including from segments of his own base.
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No, they blackmailed him.
Trump Agreed To Include Lebanon In Ceasefire, Then A Call From Netanyahu Changed Course
He got the boss call
In Trump‘s first term and this term as well, he had The Who is Who of „Bomb Iran“ in his cabinet. Trump also has talked negatively about Iran for decades.
Trump just needed an opportunity.
Who said it was new?
My money is on bribery because it’s the only thing he consistently responds to
They dangle bait, but not hard cash, more promises of real-estate opportunities on the rubble of Gaza.
epstein file talked him into the war to distract the news.
They probably didn’t even need to, he’s so easily manipulated. “Look! Airplane! And I like your idea of attacking Iran!”
Well now that’s news!
/s
Obviously Israel talked him into the war and told him to deny it.
Worse.
They talked him into a war and it’s obvious to everyone except trump and maybe Joe Biden.
I think they both legitimately still see Israel as “the good guys”, because their brains are mush.
Good and evil don’t play into it, they believe in nothing, only self-interest.
The fuck you think “evil” is?
Edit to clarify:
“Evil” like exists in media isn’t real, it’s propaganda from the people in power to convince you they’re the good guys and they overcame “evil” so we’re better off with them than without.
It’s an excuse to give them too much power. And it’s such a good excuse that people in power will manufacture terrible situations to just that “evil” is a natural phenomona on a large scale. And they’re never put good effort into any type of peace. They want/need perpetual lie to keep people scared enough they’d turn over all their own wealth and actual security.
That’s the most evil shit in the real weird, and there’s so much of it we don’t need to worry about boogeymen.
That sounds evil to me.
Also they have all the hard copies of the Epstine files and he’s just dancing for them to keep them hidden.
They do, but that’s not it.
He’s letting Kushner handle everything with Israel, it all flows thru him like Cheney had everything run thru him with GW.
Kushner is a zionist, he wants what Bibi wants.
So instead of America negotiating with Israel, Bibi tells Kushner what he wants, and Kushner frames it as the best and only option to trump, usually with Ivanka greasing the wheels.
Just like Cheney told GW the Irag war was the only possible option, Kushner says anything Bibi wants is the only possible option.
I legitimately wouldn’t be surprised to find out they’ve been diverting food from US naval ships to send to Israel at this point.
Of course not. Trump has been crazy trying to find some war that can let him cancel this year’s US elections since his attempt to phish a civil war failed last year.
Israel probably talked him into Iran in particular, though.
They’re rigging the elections not canceling them.
Why not both?
Rigging an election you also cancel seems like a bit of a waste of effort.
No because he can use the “we won anyway” argument when he gets called out.
Belt and suspenders. Someone else than Trump is planning it, it’s not half-assed enough to be straight from Trump.
That’s exactly what someone who Israel talked into starting a war would say.
No, Israel went “What’s wrong McFly? Chicken?” and Trump pressed the red button.
I don’t know, I kinda see Trump as Biff Tannen, not Israel.
“Look people, this incredibly bad, self-destructive, unpopular, and poorly planned operation was all my own creation. Don’t you dare hang any responsibility for this disaster on anyone else but me.”
When has Trump ever realized he’s being played?
He’s like a goose. Every day he wakes up and it’s a whole new world.
Israel talked Trump into Iran war confirmed.
Netanyahu sold Trump on it. It’s not even a secret.
Trump says “I don’t even know anyone named Izrali” .
It’s inception, except they didn’t need to go into his dreams, they probably only needed to mention it once in passing. “I heard the bestest Presidents go to war with Iran.”
The man is so simple I almost feel bad for him. Then I remember what he’s done.
They didn’t talk him into it, they ORDERED him. He’s a moron who’ll do anything a dictator tells him as long as they word it like he’s the most specialist widdle piggy evah.
He definitely has a subby thing going on with dictators.
He probably has already forgotten that Netanyaho talked him into this.
So who talked you into it, Putin?
Because they don’t have to convince him of anything. They just give him his marching orders and he follows like a good boy.
Cool story bro but your fucking lying
Trump: Israel didn’t talk me into it!
…soooooo Israel talked him into it.
So it was not about alliances? You just started a war unilaterally, because you had a bad day.
This guy is begging to be impeached.
Israel wouldn’t want him impeached, so Schumer will never let impeachment happen.
He could nuke Iran, kidnap refugees, and personally execute them on live television without getting impeached. There is no mechanism to really threaten him.
Trump is so easy to manipulate, and he doesn’t even realize it.
That is the reason it is so easy
If if say so, just trust the opposite.
It must be exhausting to be Trump. Netanjahu calls you to do X, but then Putin calls you to do the opposite of X, so the Netanjahu calls you again and you do X again and the cycle continues…
In this case both called him to do it. Israel gets to steal some more land, Russia gets sanctions lifted and weakened US.
And all the oil tycoons get to increase their profits by 200%
You can be sure that Putin and Netanyahu have some mutual interests and have worked out a plan to tag-team Pig Boy.
Translation: Netanyahu talked Trump into it, but Trump was too stupid to know he’d been played.
In all fairness, “This is false, Trump is lying” is by far the most likely thing when he says anything that makes him look better (or at least less bad).
IMHO the most likely scenarion is that Trump was played by Netanyahu, later figured it out or was told that he had been played and now is lying about not having been played in the first place.
Why assuming he was played? The action the administration took to make this happen was too extreme to say “he was played”
The money all the rich made with market manipulation doesn’t indicate he was played.
Everything point at him and his groups to be actively benefiting from this situation.
He’s a psychologically sick guy with a profound Narcisist complex whose constantly harping about how he’s great at everything.
People who believe themselves better than everybody else and hence would never fall for a scam are some of the best marks around for scammers.
So it seems like a reasonable explanation that he got swindled into doing something which superficially looked like a win - especially in light of the recent similar “win” in Venezuela - but had secondary effects which turned it into a defeat.
Mind you, I’m not “assuming” jack shit, I’m just putting forward what I think is a likely explanation.
“American first” has become “Israel first”
… has become Trump first
It never wasn’t.
It’s true
It always was.
No. They manipulated him into it. Trump is rather thick after all and easily sells his love and trust for shiny trinkets.
So, what is the reason he invaded without any need?
I think Israel didn’t bother to ‘talk’, they just Leeroy Jenkinsed it up and the military decided they had to ride or die with it…
He is calling it a war, Donny you dropped some bombs on people and now it’s the worst possible shit show it could have been.
The war with Iran …pfffh
“Trump says” well I don’t care.
Israel told him to say that, obviously.
Mossad Agent Epstein never gave Netanyahu any proof of my pedophile rapes, and all of the Zionist money funding my election to “finish the job” of genocide, helps me understand that everything bibi ever says is always true, and so no bibi didn’t force me into war, only demonic Zionist supremacism as the truth, did. The dotard, is incapable of admitting that he failed to see through bibi lies that 5 previous presidents (1 of them him) had enough qualified advisers to not do stupid.
That doesn’t make it better…
actually, lmao…
“Israel? I don’t even know where that is!”