Trump snubs Zelensky’s offer to help US with drone tech and lashes out at him again
(www.the-independent.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 15 Mar 19:36
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from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 15 Mar 19:36
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Donald Trump made clear that his personal grudge with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky hasn’t abated during a phone interview with NBC News.
Speaking with Meet the Press anchor Kristen Welker on Saturday, the president knocked Zelensky for offering assistance to the U.S. and Middle Eastern countries, the latter of which the Ukrainian president said on Friday were seeking his aid in sharing drone detection technology.
The “last person we need help from is Zelensky,” Trump told Welker.
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Ukraine is winning because they found cheaper drone defenses than drones…
Were burning thru our sophisticated interceptors because we’re wasting them on drones 1/100th the prices.
Iran just has to keep pumping out the same drones they’ve been sending to Russia.
Like, Ukraine is literally the one government that knows how to win this kind of war.
The only person who knows how to do anything in the US is Donald Trump, if anyone has the audacity to know better than him they will be demoted, fired or abducted by ICE.
Ukraine unfortunately is not winning and is in serious trouble.
For a relatively small nation like Ukraine, still standing against the full might of Russian agression after four years, is winning it.
Russia uses Iranian drones…
The price just skyrocketed and supply might go to zero if Iran uses all they can make
Russia uses Iranian design, but produce locally. Some reports that Russia is now providing Iran with Iranian type drones build in Russia.
You are looking locally, not globally.
“Serious trouble” is holding the world’s supposed second most powerful military to a gain of only 0.8% of Ukraine’s territory after the initial invasion?
“Serious trouble” is a 27:1 casualty ratio in Ukraine’s favor, with over 1.2 million dead or wounded on Russia’s side?
If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge over the Volga to sell you.
Your other points are true. This, sadly, is not. The situation is at best 4:1, in bad sectors, 3:1. It also varies - wounded Russian soldiers tend to die of their wounds far more often than wounded Ukrainian soldiers.
However, if it was 2.7:1, it was too pessimistic.
Edit: link for people who keep downvoting without a clue. CSIS thinks the ratio is more pessimistic. They mention numbers like 2.1 : 1 and 2.5 : 1.
independent.co.uk/…/ukraine-kills-27-russian-sold…
It is nice to know that it has gone exceptionally well for Ukraine in Kupyansk. Meanwhile:
www.csis.org/…/russias-grinding-war-ukraine
That’s the opinon of the Center for Strategic Studies.
Do you think Russia or Ukraine will give real number? Both side always gives fake numbers
“The areas which were controlled by Russia at the time of the declaration of annexation amount to more than 90000 km²”.
Internationally recognized area of Ukraine is 603628 km². Now learn to do the math, because “0.8%” is beyond delusional. The above figure grew since the declaration, too.
This is hilariously out of touch.
It isn’t losing either and it doesn’t look that good for Russia on the battlefield right now.
You’re probably the type of person to think the south was winning the civil war, until they didn’t.
Russia’s long term strategy ends in failure. Every week that Ukraine still exists, they are one step closer to losing.
Russia’s equipment is finite, Ukraine’s is not.
I’m with you until the last sentence. How is that true?
Supply lines and logistics.
Ukraine’s military equipment is a mix of NATO surplus gear (ample supplies of such gear in most NATO countries, or found on the global markets), homegrown drones/missiles (can be replaced), and various other equipment for sale in the western MIC.
Russia’s primary equipment is gear that was made in Russia or in former Eastern Bloc countries like Ukraine. Russia’s equipment being finite comes from two things; they are burning through their vast Soviet surplus at a rate that is not sustainable, and their domestic and their domestic production of equipment cannot backfill those losses of the more modern equipment.
A bunch of the lynchpin systems Russia relies on cannot even be manufactured anymore, so when radar systems are destroyed, the replacement of such equipment cannot be easily done.
Where is China in your assessment?
How did you come to that assessment, if you don’t mind my asking?
You should say that louder for the people in Moscow without internet.
Haaaaaaang on.
Are you saykng that Iran has been supplying Russia with drones, and now they’ll be keeping them to use against the USA, for the explicit purpose of being destroyed?
So, wouldn’t this mean Russia loses their supply? So wouldn’t that mean it’s actually in Zelenskyys best interest to NOT help the USA?
If USA ends their war quickly, Iran starts supplying Russia again with drones. But until that happens, wouldn’t Ukraine have an easier time in their own war?
The only way the US ends this war quickly is by retreating. Drones or not it’s a quagmire.
War agsinst a non-nuclear state onlu needs 2 things to be quick.
A shitload of nukes
Someone in charge of those nukes who has no morals or empathy.
At this point, the only thing making the war take more than a day, is the fact that somehow trump thought better of dropping 4,000 nukes spread out over the entirety of Iran. They’d probably call it something like “Operation Scorched Earth”.
Nukes risk triggering MAD, that’s the end of the world
Iran has no nukes.
Nope but China, Israel, Russia, India and Pakistan all do and its probably unclear who the US would be launching at when they’re all headed towards Iran. Lots of itchy trigger fingers around.
Israel is the only country even marginally close enough to be mistaken for the target.
And they would know we’re not going to fire upon them. We’re apperently sucking their dick politically.
None of that would make sense for any of those countries to think it’s aimed at them.
Let me put it in baseball terms. You’re looking at an infield pop fly, and worried that the outfielders might catch it. Or in the case of Russia, a fan in the upper bowl of the bleachers. The trajectory doesn’t line up for that to make sense.
MAYBE Israel, but again, they know they’re safe from us.
Depends on trajectory, to hit Iran, unless your going over the southern hemisphere, you’re either passing over China, Russia or Europe / the middle east. At least for ICBMs launched from the mainland. I suppose there’s nothing stopping a sub from launching a few miles from Iran’s coast.
It does to a degree, but also the US would likely call China/Russia beforehand and let them know it’s happening - assuming they go with ICBMs. US also has tactical nukes which are dropped from aircraft the outcry would obviously be huge, but I don’t see it triggering MAD.
The USA is rapidly burning through munitions that Ukraine desperately needs. I suspect the loss of those anti air weapons etc is much worse for Ukraine than the small reduction in drones launched at them.
I honestly hadn’t realised munitions were so difficult to produce. Everyone concerned about burning through stockpiles. I guess in non-war times you don’t need the capability to produce a lot in a short time.
That’s exactly it, yes. Modern armaments production is geared around low intensity conflicts and maintaining existing stockpiles. It’s not set up for full militarization. That’s a good thing in a lot of ways; economies geared for war end up needing war. But it means that even a nation like the US can only sustain a high intensity conflict for so long.
Iran is particularly taxing because they’re focused heavily on the use of cheap drone munitions, which the US just does not have a cost effective way of intercepting. US air defense is still designed around shooting down expensive planes and missiles. Patriot is an incredible air defense system, but it’s ungodly expensive. The whole system costs over a billion dollars, and the missiles are 4 million each. If one of those missiles shoots down a $50 million Mig-29, that’s a really good deal. A $20,000 shahed drone… Not so much.
Yes, Russia will lose a part of their supply.
They will also gain a lot of money they can use to buy things from other places.
Russia is getting a huge advantage from the Iran-US war. Trump, as a Russian asset, had the excuse he needed to lift sanctions on Russian oil.
Ukraine needs to cut off Russian oil, which means stopping the Iran threat.
This was my first take too, but I think that was mostly true in the first years when the rot in the russian military was more prevalent. They have been steadily cleaning up and ramping up production across their MIC and they also have local Shahed production now set up by Iranian engineers afaik.
That means that the main limits on Russias ability to get drones is now primarily financial, rather than production volume. So while they lost some of their effective production, they have made so much money out of this, that even if it ends today, their biggest challenge, their economy, is hugely improved. If it continues, they will be able to afford even more production.
With the effectiveness of the Shaheds, I wouldn’t be surprised if China is also pumping them out and Russia can buy them there. If NATO dumped a bunch of money into reverse engineering and setting up production, Iranian allies sure as hell should have.
So on , russia produce their own drones in Russia !
the-independent.com/…/trump-meeting-zelensky-ukra…
No, you’re gambling with ww3
Look. Trump has gone bankrupt THREE TIMES from owning casinos.
The man clearly has no idea how gambling works.
As they launch into random wars with several middle eastern nations and beyond… Le sigh.
Gambling with “world war three” — you mean like attacking a large nation that’s friendly with China and Russia and has a choke hold on international shipping of crude oil?
But BiBi told him to
What was Drumpf supposed to do?
Not attack Iran? >!and risk BiBi showing the world the dirt he has on him?!<
Drumpfkopf
Trump treated Zelensky like a wet rag when he invited him to the whitehouse and Zelensky still willing to offer his first hand knowledge and experience of drone warfare.
That’s what being the bigger man truly means. In more ways that one.
Zelensky is the bigger man in this case. Again, in more ways than one.
Buy he want wearing a suit. Difmt you know the suit is the only thing keeping you from looking like a gross pedophile blob?
Didn’t even say thank you!
/s
That’s how a true diplomat works.
That’s what being in a fucking pickle means.
I mean, I’d do the same…
I think Zelensky is probably looking for some quid pro quo.
Obviously. It’s also meant as a “thank you for the support US have given Ukraine, allow us to share what we’ve learned in our drone warfare.”
But Trumps pride cannot handle that Zelensky might have something to teach the US when it comes to warfare.
No, they’ve been actively making this offer to all their allies for a while now. This isn’t recent. Everyone else took them up on it. Not a quid pro quo so much as just being a good friend to their good friends. The US could have been working with them on this for over a year IIRC, but they were too damn proud to accept any help from anyone else.
Most of the NATO countries training Ukrainians have been doing this since Day 1 (Mostly UK, Germany and Spain afaik). It’s one of the main reasons to offer continuous training at local bases rather than ‘just’ sending officers to Ukraine.
This is the first conflict between two modern militaries since the Falklands. And that wasn’t broadly applicable for many many reasons. From a pragmatic point of view, militaries have been absolutely desperate to ingest lessons learned from the moment we started sending our materiel.
I know for a fact that Canada has been paying very, very close attention.
Elbows up, eh?
From Trump??!!
I think Zelensky knows a lot of us in the US support him and Ukraine.
Well, also, strategically any pain for Iran is good for Ukraine, since Iran supplies Russia.
Drone warfare? You mean, the kind of warfare “defeated” Iran is using to totally shut down the Strait of Hormuz and which will crush the entire world’s economy in the next few months? That kind of warfare?
It’s really telling how everyone went from “this is an illegal war and it needs to end” to “zelenski is so based for wanting to help America with with the war”
This obsession American liberals have with zelenski where he seemingly can’t do wrong is so weird. He does a lot wrong, this is one the wrongs. He’s offering to help extend the war and make it significantly more deadly.
Zelenski needs the support of the US. His offer is a way to get it.
no it’s not, he’s just bending the knee to Israel.
And Trump wins the Oscar for dumbest man alive, dead, or in a vegetative state 🏆
“Personal grudge”? Trump is a Russian asset. He doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
Why would a Russian asset successfully weakening our ties with other countries, destroying our economy, and exposing our troops to unnecessary harm… want something that works?
He and his maggot faithful are speed running losing as if it were their explicit purpose.
Of course, that fat bastard in the Oval Office being the running dog for the Kremlin.
I’m sure it’s an open secret in Ukraine.
Did we really expect anything else from the guy who wanted to swap out a 4 star general for a TV host as their minister of defence? Seems to be par for the course.
Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at Ukraine, taking notes every single day. We now know what the war of tomorrow will look like. That is a rare opportunity. Completely wasted on Americans that think brute force is always the answer.
Not just looking and taking notes; being actively trained by Ukraine. They didn’t just make this offer to their allies yesterday. Every other nation that’s been rendering assistance to Ukraine has been actively receiving training in drone warfare from them in return for a while now. The US refused because they were too arrogant to think Ukraine had anything to teach them. And then they started a war with a nation that’s leading the way in cheap combat drones. Drones that Ukraine already knows how to counter.
And people have died for that arrogance.
I honestly hope Iran manages to ruin a carrier. Not necessary sink it, as too many would die, but just enough damage to have it out of commission for the next 2.5 years.
I know mate, we’ve had Ukrainians here in Sweden sharing their experience of what does and doesn’t work.
As for Iran. That’s just a whole new level of incompetence. Setting aside Israel attacking water desalination plants, which should be an obvious warcrime. The fact they just started bombing without a plan is mind blowing. Like you said, against a country that have been making the exact drones Ukraine have experience in intercepting. And trump is too proud. Pure hubris
Apparently, we didn’t think brute force was the answer to Russia invading Ukraine, which still makes me sad too.
Cucked little bitch. Putin’s dick is so far down his throat that he’s able to fuck his breakfast Big Mac.
I still cannot believe that this pube-flecked chunk of human excrement won a second term. It’s still genuinely sickening to me, like my stomach really feels like I’m perpetually tipping over the apogee of a rollercoaster when I remember what happened. His winning the first term was at least comprehensible, but I’m still punchdrunk from the shock of it all, even after all this time. And I’m not even from the US! I can’t imagine what it feels like for the people who have to live there, especially those who aren’t cis-white-hetero-males.
Anyone who has spent any time in the US shouldn’t be surprised by him winning. It was and is still shockingly frustrating and disappointing, but unfortunately that’s only because it’s an emotionally difficult pill to swallow how awful so much of it is.
Sort of how no one is surprised when Israel bomb indiscriminately, the US invades/coups/bombs another country, Saudi executes a bunch of people, Russia is excessively brutal, massacres in African conflicts if not genocides and ethnic cleansing that most of the world ignores.
No matter how predictable, it is always shockingly horrifying, but not surprising.
JFC, HE CHEATED! Everybody knows it! He won EVERY swing states? That’s was pretty much a statistical impossibility. They made no secret of it, both Trump and Musk both said many times that they intended to steal it.
All they had to do was flip one vote in seven states. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Democratic ballots, with Trump at the top. MILLIONS OF THEM! Who does that? Who votes that way? Have you ever met a person who voted straight Democratic, except for Trump? I’ve never met one, and I’ve never seen one on TV. That’s because they don’t exist, not in any significant numbers.
And the craziest thing is, they ONLY seem to exist in the swing states, because that vote pattern didn’t occur anywhere else.
But as soon as the polls closed, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries immediately declared Trump’s victory “fair & square,” abdicating their sworn responsibilities, and condemning America to the political Hell we are being dragged through.
If it was “fair & square,” it was the first time in his entire life that Trump didn’t cheat, and it is highly doubtful that he would choose the one election that would keep him him out of a life sentence in prison to finally play it straight. Does that sound like the Trump we know?
Quit doubting America, quit doubting Harris’s campaign, and place the blame where it belongs - on Trump, and his evil cabal of corrupt, treasonous, pedophiles.
They have shown statistically that this happened in a number of swing states using the same tools that show it in Russia and Belarus.
I always found it extremely gross that nobody even attempted to ask for a single recount. They just rolled over instantly
Why do you say that? Americans not caring about democracy and freedom wasn’t on my personal bingo card prior to the 2024 election so it did come as a bit of a shock to me.
You’re lived under a rock before '24?
what exactly are you referring to?
Murican foreign policy for the last few decades.
It feels really bad. Like your neighbors betrayed their country for no personal gains.
Defund education, control the media, manufacture consent, use others as scapegoats.
President Zelensky should send Krasnov the heavily redacted version of Ukraine’s defense program. The people with common sense already know the orange turd will send the classified documents straight to fucking Moscow.
Hes the oldest 3 year old brat in history
Zelensky did the right thing (politically) by offering to help, and can now wash his hands of Trump’s murderous fiasco. Well played.
Ukraine is one of 2 nations that have first hand experience with drone warfare and the defence against. I wonder what the US generals are thinking? Maybe Russia has offered to help.
lets hope the Devil stops controlling him. And all the other nations can forgive those who voted this nightmare on the world. he wanted a nobel prize lets give him a trophy for starting Armageddon
Let’s not. He’s too dumb to understand the context, it could be a trophy made of literal shit and he wouldn’t understand it’s not a celebration of him
He’s such an ungracious pile of garbage to the point where he’s ok with our allies and citizens dying.
Guys, in starting to think this president might be a Russian asset
Wait just a minute.
Just because everything he says and does is intended to benefit his Russian masters, it doesnt mean he’s a Russian asset
Why would he go to war with Iran then. Iran have an alliance with Russia.
Because Israel did.
Because the war actually benefits Russia as it gives Trump an excuse to lift sanctions.
Because his advisors convinced him it was a good idea.
Trump is narcissistic and mercurial. He will change his mind depending on his mood and opinion about the person whispering in his ear
In the case of Putin, one minute he is openly admiring him, the next he is criticising him. Then he’s back to appeasing him again. Like with the lifting of sanctions.
And it drives up the oil price, which also benefits Russia.
Once you realize how thoroughly Trump is Putin’s bitch, it all makes sense.
5 dimensional chess: He weakens the US so that Russia has a weaker “enemy”.
Trump may be many things, but I do not want to live in a world where he is an asset.
Time to make him useless to them then. He’d still be a puppet, but no longer an asset.
He’d still be an asshat.
He is also alive, unfortunately.
My Trump is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a porn star!
I hope this is a quote
It’s a Simpsons reference
This isn’t about Zelenski, Trump has a grudge against any political leader that isn’t corrupt.
Do you mean Zelenskyy is not corrupt?
One of the few that aren’t in the Epstein files. These days that’s enough.
There is probably a sprinkle of corruption, but at least Zelensky isn’t on the Bored Of Peace
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves just because Ukraine is the victim in a conflict. It’s one of the top 3 most corrupt countries on the entire European continent, and sadly, the war only made it worse.
Of course, we should be treating Ukraine as a potential long-term ally and partner, and helping it defend as well as rebuild itself. However, we cannot ignore its shortcomings. At this point, the Ukrainian government has practically full reign over everything in the country with no oversight at any level.
Some of it can be blamed on the war, maybe. But absolutely not all of it. Not even half. Corruption is a long running issue in Ukraine, which we should be helping it with, probably after the war ends. If Ukraine wants help, of course. Or if it wants to join the EU, in which case it’d be non-negotiable.
Give me a list of your top 5 most corrupt European nations.
I don’t know about top 5, but top 3 would probably consist of Belarus, Hungary and Ukraine, in this order.
We usually think that Ukraine isn’t severely corrupt, just because it’s western-aligned. But that’s not what corruption means.
But Ukraine is actively trying to rid itself of corruption? While several others aren’t bothering at all.
Edit: technically Russia is European. So that should be automatically #1.
Is it though? Before the war, its efforts were dissappinting at best. Right now, they’re nonexistent.
The Ukrainian government has just recently given the president the ability to hand pick people to oversee the president, effectively dismantling the entire office responsible for overseeing him.
Again, in case I failed to convey this point in prior comments, I’m not saying Ukraine is evil or that we should not support it. I’m all for supporting it and having it join the EU in the future, but at the same time I want to highlight the issues it’s facing, both internal and external.
Don’t bother, you’re in an echo-chamber: Ukraine good, Russia bad, Iran bad, chest-thumping.
Nuance is a foreign concept.
Damn you missed out on a bunch of good opportunities. So you’re like 15 years behind on modern history. geography and politics leaves a lot to be desired.
You’re clearly a college educated American, by this level of knowledge being demonstrated. I’m always thrilled to see the value of those college degrees on display.
Why the need of personal attacks?
Because I’m tired of people sharing baseless propaganda that was demonstrably false 10 years ago…. You want a piece of this too?
Idk did they need to attack my democracy and dismantle it with money and corruption and kid fucking?
Had you considered how many lives this Russian information war has cost over the last decade? Just because my bitch made president bows to them doesn’t mean I have to.
You are perfectly welcome to contribute your input, if you have any. Preferably without insinuations or insults, as I’d expect from a well educated person.
I did contribute. I’m not well educated, I just read the ‘world’ section of the news paper. I’m an asshole and I call em like I see em. You should feel shame for sharing baseless propaganda. That’s how I contribute. ❤️
Are you suggesting Russia is less corrupt?
I know Ukraine has had many problems with corruption, but at least they’re trying to do something about it. Although unfortunately they do have more pressing matters at the moment. Russia embraces its corruption. As does the US, for that matter.
Absolutely not. As a European, I don’t consider Russia as part of Europe in terms of geopolitics.
According to a corruption perceptions index someone linked (idk how reliable), Russia is almost at the bottom of the list, so it’d probably be top 1 in Europe.
Bosnia, Serbia, Belarus, Turkey, Russia
All more corrupt than Ukraine.
Even the most corrupt European nation is only a fraction as corrupt as the USA.
Oh stop they’re all entangled by the same damn financial interests.
A secret pedophile ring run by american billionaires and the American government actively defending them and protecting them, because the president himself is a corrupt pedophile, is the most corrupt thing I know of in this day of politics.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg of American corruption.
How many billions in bribes did Trump receive?
How many international laws did the Trump admin break?
How many national laws did the Trump admin break?
How many lies did Trump tell and deceive the population?
Shit I know. I’m watching him rob me blind. Doesn’t change the fact that European politics share financial interests with the evil empire. You guys had no problem investing your pension funds in the bombing. You buy the bombs. Get the fuck outta here. Just watched you all cave to Russia over natural gas prices 🤣
Has nordstream ever stopped pumping?
I’m not over going to Vietnam for French interests. Euro cucks are cucks. Like their whole lifestyle doesn’t exist because the US projects force in their favor. 😭😩 they can’t help selling their countries out to Russia either we’re all in the same fucking boat here.
They half way to Africa about to support a massacre to keep some mining rights. I see u Europe. You can talk shit all you want… but we learned from you guys!
France is probably the most educated and politically active population and they still get the same wanker laws being handed down by the same billionaires
Ya according to 2013 stats which you guys love to pretend are still relevant and not related to the Russians that had a strangle hold on the government and got thrown out.
More Russians = more corrupt.
Who is ‘you guys’ and what statistics are you referring to?
Corruption Perceptions Index 2025 - Transparency.org www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025
Consider the subjectivity of a “perceptions” index. And also, based on my own direct experience of corruption while doing business in a few countries, Transparency International’s rankings bore no relationship to what I was seeing. Societies whose elites are skilled at concealing corruption tend to have lower perception rankings than those where the elites are more flagrant, even when the actual corruption is the same in both cases. Not to mention that those doing the reporting are people doing business in those countries, and such people rapidly adapt to the local conditions.
I understand that hard data isn’t easy to come by, but using a perceptions index as a proxy is methodologically very questionable.
The sources and surveys which make up the CPI are based on carefully designed and calibrated questionnaires, answered by experts and business people.
As long as these questions are consistent then it seems fine as a data source.
It’s easy to criticise but hard to improve. If you’d like to augment this with another data source then I’d be interested.
According to this list Ukraine is the 104th country by corruption (104th least corrupt worldwide), out of 182 countries/territories ranked.
Unless I missed something, it also appears to be taking the spot of the top 5 most corrupt country in Europe (not counting Russia, 6th if you do count it), behind only: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Belarus, and Syria.
Swap Turkey for Syria and i agree with your summary.
‘You guys’: a russian stooge. Paid or worse.
The fact that Trump hates him is probably pretty good evidence that at least he’s not corrupt enough to suit Trump. I’m wary of any politician that Trump loves. Although there are two notable exceptions to that rule: Zoran Mamdani and Alexander Stubb. No idea how they do it.
Zelensky was the proximate cause of Trump’s first impeachment, right? The perfect phone call?
I think that Trump does have a grudge against Zelensky.
zelensky is such a cuck, why was he offering to take part in a war he has nothing to do with?
You know Iranian drones are the ones falling on Ukrainian cities right?
AFAIK Russia doesn’t need them anymore from Iran as they got multiple production facilities for Shaheds themselves and upgraded them in the meantime. And even if they were selling them to Putler, that is definitely not happening right now.
Actually, it a great move. US get valuable training and Ukrain get the ammo and support it needs.
US gets valuable training to bomb school children, sure
Which shows the US really needs to get that training until the can see the difference between a school and, say, a tank or a airplane?
They would still bomb schools tho
trump already lifted oil sanctions from russia, hes going to abandon ukraine very soon.
Hasn’t he done that already? What is the US doing to help Ukraine at this point?
I mean at least he didn’t attack the Ukraine yet…
We all know that temporary relief is going to become permanent economic reintigration is going to become economic support is going to become military support.
I’m going to build the Trump Bering Strait Bridge, it’ll be the longest bridge in the world, most advanced technology, nothing like this has ever been done before, it’ll be beautiful, look - curtains!
Trump in a couple of months.
Crucially, Russia uses the same Iranian-designed Shahed drones that Iran is deploying now. And Ukraine offered the US assistance for defending against them already last August. www.axios.com/2026/…/us-ukraine-anti-drone-offer
This makes complete sense to me. If you think you are the most powerful man in the world, controlling the worlds biggest military, then an offer to help from a much smaller country who has been asking for your help for years, is going to be seen as an insult. It’s basically just his fragile ego, refusing to admit that the country with the most modern combat experience against IRANIAN drones is going to be of any help.
At the same time, he’s demanding “allies” commit ships to his stupid war.
Those “allies” should tell him that Ukrainian antidrone defenses would be of more help than their ships. And then commit more to the defense of Ukraine, because that’s a far more important matter than bailing Trump out of his self-chosen disaster.
Meanwhile all of Ukraine’s real allies took them up on this offer ages ago. I know for a fact that they’ve been training Canadians on anti-drone warfare pretty much since the war started. Ukraine has asked nothing in return for this, it’s just the kind of thing you do for your allies when you understand alliances as bonds of solidarity that benefit both parties, and not something to be exploited.
Unbelievable…Trump’s would rather save his ego than let Ukraine help save American lives.
My brother in-law actually has a diagnosed personality disorder and the way Trump behaves, especially while under duress, is identical to how my brother in-law would react.
If Trump indeed suffers from a personality disorder, which I am convinced is the case, then he is literally incapable of backing down.
This is an absolute nightmare scenario for the US. Trump won’t stop until he is forced to stop. We will see Trump make even more crucial mistakes and see him try and escalate this as far as he possible can.
“Putin told me Zelensky’s a bad hombre.”
In Trump’s case, he might just be a spoiled brat, honestly. Or it could be a disorder.
He recently stated that he wants to bomb Khark Island “Just for fun.”
While this is a bald-faced lie to cover up for the fact that their earlier strikes weren’t as successful as claimed, just think about what kind of lie he was willing to tell; to him, the idea of putting Americans in harm’s way “just for fun” seems completely reasonable.
He literally does not care about the lives of the people who swore an oath to serve, to the point where he cannot even conceive of the notion that anyone else would.
Someone like Trump would rather launch all the nukes in the world and force everyone else to do the same than even give a politician’s back down (I.E. what Ronald Reagan did after the barracks bombing in Lebanon in 1982).
Is it still considered a disorder when it is someone’s whole personality? If you removed the perpetual rage, the extreme narcissism and the bullying I think you would only find an orange stain on the floor where Trump was.
Personality disorders are controversial in psychology. But yes they are considered legitimate.
Patterns of specific maladaptive traits and behaviors that are consistent across the lifespan.
Personality disorder types are specific clusters of symptoms/traits/behaviors.
I’m personally on the fence if personalities can be categorized very much. People are very unique in their traits and levels of traits.
Except for people with high narcissism and dark triad traits (anti-social traits like manipulation , lack of empathy, vindictiveness, impulsivity).
These are just ruthless egotistical people who all behave the same. Just incredibly selfish and cruel.
Estimated to be ~5% of them in the general population with some professions having very high instances. Like lawyers and CEOs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy
Correct. Trump has no personality, he is just personified disorder.
Don’t give him excuses, he’s a sociopath.
Trump’s ego is the thing he values most of all.
There is a phenomenon called “self handicapping”. And everyone does it a little at least a few times but it’s typically a behavior that’s considered poor.
Here is an example of how it works.
Let’s say you have a big exam tomorrow. And you fucked around , didn’t study. You knew about it weeks ago. You know you are going to fail it. But. Instead of spending that last evening cramming as much as possible to make up for procrastinating to maybe have a small chance of passing it, you decide to go to a bar and get shit faced.
The next day you don’t even show up to class.
You blame failing the class on the alcohol. Instead of your inability to prioritize your education or your own intelligence.
It was the alcohol. Not your own ability to pass. You probably would have aced it actually. If you hadn’t been hungover.
So this is a way to save face and preserve a sense of self superiority.
People who are narcissistic do this almost constantly. They never fail. No , not them. It’s always some external cause that their plans didn’t work.
They intentionally set up multiple barriers so that they can always fall back on those.
Trump does the same,
For instance. Tarriffs. He can claim he has a plan to fix the economy with tarriffs but Congress won’t let him. So we won’t ever know how great of a plan it was. It totally would have worked. It just needed a little more time.
But. often the obstacle isn’t doing its job.
Example. Trump starts war. It’s going badly. He won’t pull out until Congress forces him. Then he can say "we were winning. My plan was great they just wouldn’t let me see it through.
He wants Congress to stop it. He has wanted Congress and the supreme Court to stop most of the b.s. So he can claim they were good plans but someone else fucked it up.
He did this all through his first term too. It’s how people like him function.
Why would Zelensky even bother?
Its clear Tramp is no ally.
At this point I think Zelensky just is doing whatever he thinks he can to try to stop any changes of the US changing sides and teaming with Russia
Too late.
No point reasoning with trump, no point pushing him away.
He is doing the smart thing - milking trump of every last drop of military aid that he can get.
But Iran is a Russian supplier, so strategically, the more US can burn through Iran military capability, the less they have to give to Russia.
Also, the longer the strait is blocked, the better Russia can do in the fossil fuel export situation. So Iran suffering military losses and the strait being open as soon as possible are also strategic imperatives for Ukraine.
Trump: i need help, can somebody help me
Zelensky : i can
Trump: No, not you
Trump going 0-3 I’d hold a grudge too
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Are these photographs doctored, or did that actually happen?
I have no doubt they happened as random hand gestures, but they were not rock paper scissoring. The only thing that looks exactly like an intentional rock-paper-scissor would be the left picture, but just indicating “two” could look like that.
I know. I just wanted to ask if it was actual random gestures that they made instead of doctored.