I was just thinking that wouldnt it be a bit risky for the warships to escort other ships through since its not somalian pirates on boats, but missiles, drones and who knows what else that are the threat. I doubt they have that much protection against them on every single warship?
Also ive been waiting for the market crash, but it seems that the world (not only maga) buys anything that the orange butt-plug says and this is a good example of that
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Mar 16:57
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With Iran already being economically isolated for years before this war, there’s not enough new risk of further economic damage to cause a market crash.
There seriously is not enough alcohol for this administration.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Mar 16:28
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Not with Patel and Kegsbreath chugging it.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
on 04 Mar 16:06
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Does Phalanx work for a convoy or just the ship on which it is deployed?
I guess we will also learn how well it works against cheap drones.
I don’t think any of that works well against artillery shells, and oil tankers are not well armoured.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Mar 16:20
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It works when it’s in range. And it’ll only occasionally spray allied ships because the Phalanx doesn’t check whats behind the target.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online
on 04 Mar 16:30
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gee whiz CIWIS
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca
on 04 Mar 17:28
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An American destroyer has a large number of area defence interceptor missiles, not just the CIWS. The question is, will the interceptors be completely effective if Iran is able to launch a saturation attack on them, and will they have enough interceptors left by the time they get out of the shooting gallery. Personally, I think even they aren’t stupid enough to try it, but I hope I’m proven wrong.
decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Mar 17:43
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Phalanx is self defense only. The weapons used to protect nearby ships are ESSM and SM-2 missiles. Which should to work fine to intercept cheap drone, artillery and ballistic missiles. (Tho very expressive to intercept artillery with missiles)
The navy has used those systems recently to defend ships during the Houti crisis in the red sea.
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
on 04 Mar 16:12
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Let’s dump the Trump admin in the Hormuz strait
theacharnian@lemmy.ca
on 04 Mar 16:24
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Especially after the US torpedoed the Iris Dena? Fun times.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 04 Mar 16:34
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Huh. I was expecting the strategy to be bombing the sites that would launch attacks on shipping, not to actually escort and try to defend the ships.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
on 04 Mar 17:00
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Well see there is the whole issue of Missile Trucks.
Where are they? How many are there? Where are they headed? Which ones are decoys? Where will they deploy to fire?
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 04 Mar 20:03
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That strategy failed miserably against the Houthis.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Mar 19:51
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Other than Israel responding by glassing all of Iran, what’s to stop Iran from waiting until the wind is blowing the right way and launching a dirty missile at Israel? If it gets intercepted it still spews nuclear material over the country right?
There is nothing to stop this from escalating, I don’t think abrupt, nonsensical nuclear war is off the table for the US or Israel and I don’t think the centrists of the world are ready for that (which terrifyingly, is really one of the few “gotchas” Trump and Netanyahu have left to flip the script, all the other non-existent international norms people believed in are already destroyed, nuclear weapons are the only one left.).
We have never been closer to nuclear war in my lifetime and it is almost entirely the fault of the US and Israel.
Let me ask you a question, if every accusation is an admission, what is Trump loudly admitting he is about to do?
This conflict leads directly to the use of “tactical” nuclear weapons because this is the first bullshit war in a long time in US history where the existentiality necessity of using nuclear weapons can be invoked without the immediate fear of nuclear retaliation as a consequence, at least according to how the leadership of the US and Israel see it.
There are not many off ramps left here…
Iran could easily end up doing that if things keep escalating, but I think what the US and Israel do will be far more catastrophic for everybody.
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Sweet, let’s watch some navy ships go down.
Not that , just let trump go down in his titan sub .
Did anyone check the definition of a “war” before starting one?
Great, so we can add a “strait of hormuz incident” to the bay of pigs, gulf of tonkin, and other body-of-water-based US military disasters
But the war’s already started, what does Iran have to lose?
4D Chess irl.
I was just thinking that wouldnt it be a bit risky for the warships to escort other ships through since its not somalian pirates on boats, but missiles, drones and who knows what else that are the threat. I doubt they have that much protection against them on every single warship?
Also ive been waiting for the market crash, but it seems that the world (not only maga) buys anything that the orange butt-plug says and this is a good example of that
With Iran already being economically isolated for years before this war, there’s not enough new risk of further economic damage to cause a market crash.
There seriously is not enough alcohol for this administration.
Not with Patel and Kegsbreath chugging it.
Does Phalanx work for a convoy or just the ship on which it is deployed?
I guess we will also learn how well it works against cheap drones.
I don’t think any of that works well against artillery shells, and oil tankers are not well armoured.
It works when it’s in range. And it’ll only occasionally spray allied ships because the Phalanx doesn’t check whats behind the target.
gee whiz CIWIS
An American destroyer has a large number of area defence interceptor missiles, not just the CIWS. The question is, will the interceptors be completely effective if Iran is able to launch a saturation attack on them, and will they have enough interceptors left by the time they get out of the shooting gallery. Personally, I think even they aren’t stupid enough to try it, but I hope I’m proven wrong.
Phalanx is self defense only. The weapons used to protect nearby ships are ESSM and SM-2 missiles. Which should to work fine to intercept cheap drone, artillery and ballistic missiles. (Tho very expressive to intercept artillery with missiles)
The navy has used those systems recently to defend ships during the Houti crisis in the red sea.
Let’s dump the Trump admin in the Hormuz strait
Especially after the US torpedoed the Iris Dena? Fun times.
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How much of our air defensive stockpile do you think our russia backed regime can expend protecting the wealth of the royal house of saud?
All of it in a matter of a week or two, easily.
Huh. I was expecting the strategy to be bombing the sites that would launch attacks on shipping, not to actually escort and try to defend the ships.
Well see there is the whole issue of Missile Trucks.
Where are they? How many are there? Where are they headed? Which ones are decoys? Where will they deploy to fire?
That strategy failed miserably against the Houthis.
Other than Israel responding by glassing all of Iran, what’s to stop Iran from waiting until the wind is blowing the right way and launching a dirty missile at Israel? If it gets intercepted it still spews nuclear material over the country right?
There is nothing to stop this from escalating, I don’t think abrupt, nonsensical nuclear war is off the table for the US or Israel and I don’t think the centrists of the world are ready for that (which terrifyingly, is really one of the few “gotchas” Trump and Netanyahu have left to flip the script, all the other non-existent international norms people believed in are already destroyed, nuclear weapons are the only one left.).
We have never been closer to nuclear war in my lifetime and it is almost entirely the fault of the US and Israel.
Let me ask you a question, if every accusation is an admission, what is Trump loudly admitting he is about to do?
This conflict leads directly to the use of “tactical” nuclear weapons because this is the first bullshit war in a long time in US history where the existentiality necessity of using nuclear weapons can be invoked without the immediate fear of nuclear retaliation as a consequence, at least according to how the leadership of the US and Israel see it.
There are not many off ramps left here…
Iran could easily end up doing that if things keep escalating, but I think what the US and Israel do will be far more catastrophic for everybody.