US and Israel planned to install Ahmadinejad as Iranian leader, NYT says (www.aljazeera.com)
from throws_lemy@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 20 May 13:14
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mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 13:38 next collapse

So they wanted a holocust denier in power. Ton of stupid people still conflste anti zionism with antisemetism. The usa and israel are fine wiyh antisemites.

snowydroopz@lemmy.world on 20 May 14:15 collapse

This man fucks

yesman@lemmy.world on 20 May 14:37 next collapse

The newspaper noted, however, that in a 2019 interview, Ahmadinejad praised President Trump and argued for a rapprochement between Iran and the US.

Everyone who goes on TV is automatically interviewing for a position in the Trump regime.

NABDad@lemmy.world on 20 May 17:59 next collapse

[checking my notes to see what happened to the last guy we put in charge of Iran]

kreskin@lemmy.world on 20 May 20:51 next collapse

Its not “US and Israel” its the US doing what Israel pays them to do. Details matter.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 May 22:29 next collapse

It is the usa and israel. Stop whitewashing the evil united snakes empire.

mirshafie@europe.pub on 20 May 22:58 collapse

As an Iranian I want to be very clear that Iran’s position is that the USA is the problem. Not Trump and definitely not Netanyahu.

Americans debate whether Israel is “wagging the dog”, as though America is the dog being controlled by its tail (Israel). Iranians think of the relationship as: hostile owner (America) of a rabid attack dog that it can barely control (Israel). But it’s the owner who’s responsible, not the dog.

I know that some Iranians that participate in English-speaking media play along with the American narrative that Israel is controlling the United States. That’s manipulative propaganda on their part. It’s designed to confuse Americans and weaken the USA, while playing along with or at least not contradicting the narratives that Americans tell themselves. It’s for US consumption, not what they believe.

Internally in Iran these ideas have no traction. They see Israel as an imperialist tool to destabilize the Middle East, which is the geopolitically most important region on the planet and must not be allowed self-determination lest the empire be doomed. It’s a vestige of the British Empire, inherited by the USA.

Make of this what you will.

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 20 May 23:10 collapse

“Pay”… they dont pay… russians pay. Israel is just pure evil blackmail.

Nautalax@lemmy.world on 20 May 22:05 next collapse

Just a feint; he will be installed at U of M to return them to the glory days. The disgraceful stain of the Ohio regime shall be wiped off the map.

mirshafie@europe.pub on 20 May 23:09 collapse

So: Israel decided to murder Iran’s true opposition (by bombing Evin last year), then murdered their doves (all the top-level reformists who were willing to negotiate with the West), and - get this - they were trying to bomb Iran’s stupidest former politician out of house-arrest, but this caused even him to realize that he can’t work with the Israelis.

This guy - Ahmadinejad - is not just grossly incompetent, he’s also a holocaust denier and has been calling for Israel to be wiped off the map. That’s right, when Americans/Israelis complain that Iran has been calling for wiping Israel off the map, they mean mother fucking Ahmadinejad. And he’s the guy they wanted to put in charge. And it’s easy to see why - they don’t want peace, they want chaos and a failed state.

While Iranian leadership is generally not antisemitic, Ahmadinejad is a moron and a buffoon and likely also an actual antisemite (not quite sure, he might just be so stupid that he thinks that fronting like an antisemite might make him look tough). No camp respects him, and he would not have been able to lead a government even if Israel didn’t botch their plan.