Trump boasts he ordered another lethal strike on a cartel boat in international waters (www.rawstory.com)
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 21:04
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motor_spirit@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 21:29 next collapse

“I had no idea about this”

pet1t@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 21:55 collapse

unrelated but FOUND THE GIZZ HEAD!

motor_spirit@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 22:33 collapse

look man I got mixed up with a bad crowd for about 27 albums, I can stop when I want

pet1t@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 06:31 collapse

Next thing you know you lose your kickdrum privileges

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca on 15 Sep 22:03 next collapse

“Cartel boat”.

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social on 15 Sep 23:11 next collapse

I mean honestly, US presidents killing random people and families the world over for literally no reason is nothing new. On the scale of Trump stuff, this is pretty minor, as sad as that is to say.

astanix@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 23:34 next collapse

Its the bragging about it that is different.

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social on 16 Sep 00:32 collapse

Rumsfeld more or less bragged about it too, a lot of that crowd did. We haven't had a serial killer in the White House for a few years, so it's an adjustment back (and of course Trump is such an overtly vicious person that it'll have a new flavor now), but this stuff is not new for Republicans.

(Actually Biden and Bush Sr. are the only two presidents since Carter that I can remember that weren't fans of blowing up random people directly with US forces for no reason. In Afghanistan they did an airstrike on a wedding.)

non_burglar@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 01:06 collapse

Exactly. A day in the life of Homelander.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 00:46 next collapse

Entire seasons of television have had plots based on the U.S. government doing this once, either secretly or by accident, and how they strive to make amends and reparations to avoid international conflict, and it all happens behind closed doors because everyone is terrified of the certainty of scandal should word ever get out. And now here we are.

Stamets@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 01:18 next collapse

The United States is a terrorist nation that should be walled off from the rest of the civilized world.

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 01:50 collapse

The US is a product of European colonialism and white centrism. It would be nice, for those of us whose ancestors were already here prior to 1492 and I am sure for those whose ancestors were forced here in the interim, if people would stop trying to pretend that everyone here has culpability in the current state of affairs. Native Americans have literally only had the right to vote since the 70s.

Stamets@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 05:40 next collapse

Okay, and what’s your solution supposed to be? To have everyone go, well the United States is a horrible country that is filled to the brim with bigots, but because there is a tiny, tiny margin of people who aren’t, we should be kind to the whole country, because we don’t want to hurt their feelings? Or do you expect me to add a disclaimer to every one of my comments saying, of course, this does not apply to those in this case or that case or this other case? Because if so, that’s also ridiculous. You might have ALSO noticed I said the country is a terrorist state and not every single person is culpable. But there’s this thing called the majority…

So no. I will not be adding a disclaimer to every comment saying something both of us are aware of. But way to go on disproving the stereotype of Americans and expecting special treatment.

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 05:45 collapse

People from Europe seem to expect to not be lumped in with the latest dumbass bullshit from Hungry, or the UK, or even this latest chat control fiasco. Is it really that troublesome that people from a nation made up of dozens of states, reservations, islands, etc want the same?

Edit for your edit: You said terrorist nation, not state.

Stamets@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 06:01 next collapse

Is it really that troublesome that people from a nation made up of dozens of states, reservations, islands, etc want the same?

Yup because you’re one country.

What you initially described is one country being annoyed of getting said they’re responsible for another country. You’re all the same voting block. Moreover, a voting block that overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump. He won in majority of votes and then something like 40% of your eligible electorate decided not to vote at all.

So, once again, I am not adding a disclaimer and caveat to every single comment just to spare the feelings of Americans. You’re either capable of going “Well clearly this doesn’t apply to people who aren’t bigots” or you need it literally spelled out for you. If you need it literally spelled out for you then you’re the type of American who the rest of the world is utterly sick of in the first place.

You said terrorist nation, not state.

American.

Here’s the definition of State:

a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

Here’s the definition of Nation:

a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

Glad I could help you with your civics lesson.

Rothe@piefed.social on 16 Sep 09:48 collapse

It seems so difficult for a lot of Americans to understand that Europe consists of multiple independent countries, while USA is a single country.

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 09:39 next collapse

So what about your statement makes you challenge the US being a terror state?

Stamets@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 12:34 collapse

So this is something that I’ve noticed recently, and honestly, it’s pissing me off. America has spent an absurd amount of its existence pushing its influence around the rest of the world, whether that be media or military. In all of it, American exceptionalism runs rampant, with Americans believing that they have the best country on the planet. Often comparing America to other countries as if America is the basic template of what something should be. Yet, when someone who is not an American decides to have an opinion on America, the Americans expect special treatment, saying that we do not know what it is like there. Yet they are the country that does not shut the fuck up about themselves.

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doctortofu@piefed.social on 16 Sep 01:29 next collapse

I mean, the first war crime had no consequences whatsoever, so why would he stop? I bet we'll see more and more "extremely dangerous narcoterrorists" executed without due process or even a warrant - soon probably also within the US, not just on international waters...

greenbelt@lemy.lol on 16 Sep 16:50 collapse

Is this part of project 2025?

fox2263@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 06:18 next collapse

They could just capture the boat.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 11:37 collapse

No shit its a tiny fucking boat. Of course if they did that. Then we all know it was boat of fisherman and not drig dealers.

fox2263@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 17:56 collapse

A glorious waste of a missile and millions of dollars - let alone the lives lost. They do love wasting money and the violence/evil is the point

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 16 Sep 09:27 next collapse

The last one wasn’t a cartel boat. This one probably wasn’t either.

bold_atlas@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 09:51 next collapse

We deserved 9/11

bold_atlas@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 09:53 next collapse

And fuck every shit stain rag news site that prints “kinetic strike” without quotations.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 16 Sep 10:00 next collapse

Alleged cartel boat you dufuses.

ToastedRavioli@midwest.social on 16 Sep 10:50 next collapse

The media is really careful about using “alleged” in cases where they obviously dont need to, in order to sow doubt, and not using it in cases where they definitely need to, to pretend that some bullshit narrative is certain even though the opposite is true

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 11:17 collapse

It’s shocking how the media just repeat the statements of this government without any questions asked. They’re really functioning as propaganda distributors rather than journalists these days. We’re seeing it also with them repeating uncritically the FBI’s claims about the Charlie Kirk shooting suspect.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 16:14 collapse

Bold move admitting to war crimes cotton. Let’s see if it pays off.

greenbelt@lemy.lol on 16 Sep 16:48 next collapse

To be honest: I am not holding my breath.

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 16:50 collapse

When have war crimes ever come back to bite a US President? Getting away with it is a long tradition.