Ukraine strikes Russian energy grid across multiple regions as Russia declares national emergency due to power grid collapsing (euromaidanpress.com)
from popjam@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 02:58
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0ndead@infosec.pub on 24 Oct 03:58 next collapse

If they’re without power, who will tell the GOP what to do?

redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 05:18 next collapse

Peter Thiel and Larry Ellison.

drdalek@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 05:53 next collapse

Youre not wrong, and I hate it.

AngularViscosity@piefed.social on 24 Oct 11:56 collapse

And Stephen Miller. He may look like your average thieving, conniving, corrupt, unqualified, alt-right fascist, racist, psychopathic piece of shit government advisor, but he seems to be pulling a lot of strings on his own.

redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 13:01 collapse

The machine is about to devour him. He made enemies within and his wife left him to be in Elon’s harem. I don’t think think he’ll even make it to the night of the long knives 2. Maybe 2 more Scaramouchis before he’s out.

obinice@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 07:35 next collapse

Who are the GOP?

Vikthor@piefed.world on 24 Oct 09:51 next collapse

The Grand Old Party is a nickname for the Republicans widely used by the US media.

bizzle@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 21:17 collapse

We the people are changing it to Grifting Ol’ Pedophiles

rayyy@piefed.social on 24 Oct 12:14 collapse

Group Of Pedophiles.

daslfc@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 08:19 next collapse

What will happen to allthe bots?

Mac@mander.xyz on 24 Oct 10:07 next collapse

Sure would be funny to see a noticeable activity dip during this time.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 25 Oct 00:26 collapse

I feel a little bit better that I’ve been arguing with other human idiots.

Mac@mander.xyz on 25 Oct 00:52 collapse

It’s nice to know when it’s actually a fellow dumbass and not a fucking clanker.

krooklochurm@lemmy.ca on 24 Oct 12:59 next collapse

Who will shove severed power lines into toilets and then flush them to see what happens? WHO WILL DO IT???

JargonWagon@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 13:11 collapse

No activity will be seen from .ml

P1nkman@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 09:23 collapse

~~Old school landline phones work without power. Not saying they’re using them, just a fun fact. ~~

Edit: see below. I have no idea what in talking about.

adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca on 24 Oct 09:30 collapse

They absolutely do not. They just don’t require power locally, but there’s 48v on the line that needs to be generated somewhere.

P1nkman@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 09:51 collapse

Then why would our landline work when the power was out?

adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca on 24 Oct 10:20 next collapse

Battery backups and diesel generators at the interchange, both of which are only temporary. Batteries need to be charged and diesel needs to be pumped, and while you can (and most infrastructure resiliency relies on it) operate these systems on manual power, the stability of large infrastructure systems becomes quite vulnerable once it’s necessary to run a diesel generator to pump diesel for your other diesel generators.

P1nkman@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 10:25 collapse

Oh… I had no idea… But it makes sense! Thanks for the info, friend 😃

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 18:37 collapse

Because the phone company (miles away from you and your local power outage) still has power, or has battery backups and automatic generators. The phone runs off of 48v that is sent directly via the phone line. That’s why you don’t need to plug your landline into a power outlet. It was also historically a fairly important safety feature, as people tend to need emergency services after their power goes out. For instance, maybe a bad storm blew through.

This actually turned out to be a problem when telecoms started transitioning towards digital phone lines. These days, they usually send everything via coax or fiber. Then a modem will take that incoming line and decode it into phone, internet, and TV signals. The modem also provides that 48v power on the phone lines. But that presents an issue, where a power outage will kill the customer’s modem, and therefore kill the customer’s landline phones. And we’ve already established that landline phones are an important safety fallback during emergencies. So now, you can actually get battery backups directly from the telecom, to be able to keep your modem powered (and thus use your landline phones) even during power outages.

18107@aussie.zone on 25 Oct 00:05 collapse

My house has a landline phone connected to the internet modem via a VoIP box. My entire house has battery backup so the modem, router, and phones stay on during a blackout, but the equipment my modem talks to (I’m assuming somewhere on the street) does not have a battery backup, so the phones are still useless in a blackout.

KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca on 24 Oct 04:07 next collapse

Slava fuckin ukraini!

otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 04:28 next collapse

Gettim.

stoy@lemmy.zip on 24 Oct 05:16 next collapse

Great work Ukraine!

Just be ready for a massive retaliation on your own power grid.

mech@feddit.org on 24 Oct 05:49 next collapse

That happens every day anyway.

Klear@quokk.au on 24 Oct 07:52 next collapse

This is a retaliation. Russia has been doing this for a long while now.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 25 Oct 00:30 collapse

That implies that Russia is out of ideas, no longer optimizing strategic targets on their own.

MutantTailThing@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 05:48 next collapse

If someone told me, just before the invasion, that in 2025 Ukraine would be dunking on Russian energy infrastructure with near impunity, I would have said they were batshit crazy. Slava Ukraini.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 25 Oct 00:24 collapse

At this point they’ve spent their entire Soviet inheritance. They foolishly demonstrated to everyone how poorly maintained everything was, from hardware to training.

lemmylump@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 07:51 next collapse

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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 18:08 collapse
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slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org on 24 Oct 10:35 next collapse

Oh damn, now is the best time to play online games if you’re in the EU region.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 24 Oct 11:00 next collapse

Will that affect Oil & gas exports?

AA5B@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 12:30 collapse

Presumably it has a more direct affect on civilians, who are otherwise able to skip most of the consequences of the war. Russians going without heat over the winter will give a little taste of what they’ve inflicted on Ukraine and hopefully put some pressure on Putin. But it also affects manufacturing, both of war materials and civilian needs.

IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 12:56 next collapse

And chances are these sorts of attacks will continue. That means less and less manufacturing capacity, etc.

sznowicki@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 16:47 collapse

And let’s not forget the commercials they were trying to ship to EU in the first year of war. The ones with Christmas without heating and food due to sanctions on Russia make EU collapse n

sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 12:00 next collapse

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resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 17:25 collapse

Oh no how unfortunate.