I am not sure if Russia has the capacity to make any military threats right now. They seem to be mostly busy throwing everything into their self made meat grinder in Ukraine.
They should have prevented Israel from bombing Syria if they wanted to contain Israels spread in the region. But Israel offered to not support the West on Ukraine in return for free reign in Syria, which Russia accepted.
But Israel offered to not support the West on Ukraine in return for free reign in Syria, which Russia accepted.
Source? This is the first I’ve heard of this. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, but it would be another data point for “Fuck Israel” that I could keep in mind.
I have highlighted some of the Wikipedia Article in the 2022-2023 section. I recommend to read the 2010 and 2023 onwards section too. Every now and then there is some “banter” in words, but the actions remain consistent.
In February 2022, the Ukrainian Ambassador to Israel accused Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid of reinforcing “Russian propaganda”, after Lapid said that Israeli officials “don’t see a violent confrontation soon” between Ukraine and Russia. The Israeli Foreign Ministry summoned the Ukrainian Ambassador for an official reprimand.The Israeli Ministry of Defense also preemptively informed the Baltic countries of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia that it would not permit the transfer of Israeli-made weaponry to Ukraine, to placate Russia. Israel also rejected a U.S. request to sell the Iron Dome air defense system to Ukraine, citing the need to avoid conflict with Russia.
On 24 February 2022, Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid spoke out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, stating “Russia’s attack against Ukraine is a serious violation of international order,” and that Israel “is prepared to extend humanitarian aid to Ukrainian citizens.”[3][114] Despite not repeating Lapid’s condemnation of Russia, Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett expressed support for Ukraine, stating “our hearts are with the civilians who through no fault of their own have been thrust into this situation,” and also offered humanitarian assistance to Ukraine as well.
Lapid’s remarks were criticized by Opposition Leader Benjamin Netanyahu, who urged the Israeli government “to speak less about what they don’t need to talk about” on Russia and accused the government of “too many unnecessary expressions and too many false predictions”. Russia subsequently summoned the Israeli Ambassador to Russia to clarify Israel’s position. The Russian Ambassador to Israel, Anataloy Viktorov, encouraged Israel to “stay wise and diplomatic and continue our joint work for the benefits of our countries and people”, stating that he had provided Israel with “a number of materials” explaining the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and noting the Russian recognition of “Israel’s legitimate security concerns” in Syria.
Israel declined to co-sponsor a UN Security Council resolution condemning the Russian invasion, leading to an expression of disappointment by the United States. Israel later voted in favour of a UN General Assembly resolution condemning the invasion. At the request of the United States, Israel also pushed the United Arab Emirates to back the resolution.[121] Russia subsequently expressed strong dissatisfaction to the Israeli Foreign Ministry over Israel’s support of the UN General Assembly resolution.
On 5 March 2022, Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett flew to Moscow to have a three-hour meeting with Putin about the situation in Ukraine, after which Bennett spoke to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy by phone and flew to Germany to meet with Chancellor Olaf Scholz.Bennett also brought up the subject of the significant Jewish community caught up in the war during their three-hour discussion in the Kremlin, according to the Israeli source.
On 11 March 2022, the Ukrainian Ambassador to Israel stated that President Zelenskyy “does not” understand the Israeli refusal to provide defensive aid to Ukraine and accused Israel of being “afraid” of Russia’s “few airplanes and anti-missile systems in Syria”. He described Israeli mediation of the conflict as an excuse for not providing active support to Ukraine. Israel also immediately rejected a Ukrainian request for cyber weaponry, including Pegasus, to be used against Russia.
An unnamed senior Ukrainian official accused Bennett of having “proposed that we surrender”, claiming that Bennett urged Zelenskyy to “take the offer” of a peace deal from Putin. This report was subsequently denied by both the Israeli Prime Minister’s office and a senior adviser to Zelenskyy.
The United States has publicly urged Israel to back international sanctions against Russia. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland called on Israel not “to become the last haven for dirty money that’s fueling Putin’s wars”.
On 12 March 2022, Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov accused Israel of “unexplained indifference and unwillingness to take a side in the war” between Ukraine and Russia.
On 16 March 2022, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Russia viewed Israeli mediation favourably, due to Israel not joining international sanctions against Russia. However, Israel has aff
I see you put a lot of effort into this, but Russia is pals with Iran, has hosted Hamas in Moscow. Israel has provided humanitarian aid to Ukraine from the beginning, Zelenskyy was very supportive of Israel after October 7. Israel this year has started to provide Military aid to Ukraine.
The air strikes in Syria you mention included a strike on a drone making factory. Same kinds of drones Russia uses against Ukraine. Ukrainians were largely disappointed by Israel not giving them Iron Dome tech at the time (which probably wasn’t feasible, it’s a complicated system designed to protect an area much smaller than Ukraine), but welcomed the destruction of the drone factory since those are the drones used against them.
It’s very obvious the Israel, Ukraine and NATO are in alignment on one side. Russia, Iran (and their Axis of Resistance) are in alignment on the other side. Not exactly strong allies and it’s clearly two different wars, but Israel and Russia are most certainly not friends, and Iran is supplying Russia with weapons.
Israel is clearly not on the side of Ukraine, if it continues to buy Russian Oil and demanded Ukraine to surrender.
Also Israel sold military drones to Russia in 2015-2017, aiding Russian war efforts against Ukraine. Not that this was already after Russia started the war by annexing Crimea and fighting in Donetsk and Luhansk.
That is the critical point to understand. Neither Israel nor Iran are strictly aligned with one side. Russia and Iran were fighting over who gets the most influence on Assads regime, where Russia was happy with Israel bombing Iranian proxies in Syria.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
on 19 Oct 07:13
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I am so disappointed with Israel and it has never been clearer they are not America’s ally. They just expect America to always be there for them and not only do nothing in return for America, but now they are actively undermining our international relationships and more election interference than China, Russia, and Iran combined (and I constantly roast them about it too). It has forever changed my perception of Israel.
If you only start getting disappointed about Israel after the 7 of October. You don’t know much of the history of brutality for Israel since it’s inception
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 19 Oct 10:32
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Russia sure is offering a lot of “China’s Final Warnings” lately, aren’t they?
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
on 19 Oct 12:50
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Sounds like Russia is planning to sell off nuclear secrets to Iran in exchange for weapons and personnel to use against Ukraine.
Those nuke secrets wouldn’t be worth much if Israel completely destroys all their scientists and facilities capable of nuclear things.
InverseParallax@lemmy.world
on 20 Oct 06:51
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Sounds like they already did.
Also sounds like they know that their client state getting bodied just adds to their humiliation and makes an alliance with Russia look even more vodka-headed than it always did.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone
on 20 Oct 02:59
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Big words from the second best army in Ukraine
InverseParallax@lemmy.world
on 20 Oct 06:57
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I think the north Korean army is now the second best army in Ukraine.
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I am not sure if Russia has the capacity to make any military threats right now. They seem to be mostly busy throwing everything into their self made meat grinder in Ukraine.
They should have prevented Israel from bombing Syria if they wanted to contain Israels spread in the region. But Israel offered to not support the West on Ukraine in return for free reign in Syria, which Russia accepted.
Source? This is the first I’ve heard of this. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, but it would be another data point for “Fuck Israel” that I could keep in mind.
I have highlighted some of the Wikipedia Article in the 2022-2023 section. I recommend to read the 2010 and 2023 onwards section too. Every now and then there is some “banter” in words, but the actions remain consistent.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Russia_relations#202…
In February 2022, the Ukrainian Ambassador to Israel accused Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid of reinforcing “Russian propaganda”, after Lapid said that Israeli officials “don’t see a violent confrontation soon” between Ukraine and Russia. The Israeli Foreign Ministry summoned the Ukrainian Ambassador for an official reprimand.The Israeli Ministry of Defense also preemptively informed the Baltic countries of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia that it would not permit the transfer of Israeli-made weaponry to Ukraine, to placate Russia. Israel also rejected a U.S. request to sell the Iron Dome air defense system to Ukraine, citing the need to avoid conflict with Russia.
On 24 February 2022, Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid spoke out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, stating “Russia’s attack against Ukraine is a serious violation of international order,” and that Israel “is prepared to extend humanitarian aid to Ukrainian citizens.”[3][114] Despite not repeating Lapid’s condemnation of Russia, Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett expressed support for Ukraine, stating “our hearts are with the civilians who through no fault of their own have been thrust into this situation,” and also offered humanitarian assistance to Ukraine as well.
Lapid’s remarks were criticized by Opposition Leader Benjamin Netanyahu, who urged the Israeli government “to speak less about what they don’t need to talk about” on Russia and accused the government of “too many unnecessary expressions and too many false predictions”. Russia subsequently summoned the Israeli Ambassador to Russia to clarify Israel’s position. The Russian Ambassador to Israel, Anataloy Viktorov, encouraged Israel to “stay wise and diplomatic and continue our joint work for the benefits of our countries and people”, stating that he had provided Israel with “a number of materials” explaining the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and noting the Russian recognition of “Israel’s legitimate security concerns” in Syria.
Israel declined to co-sponsor a UN Security Council resolution condemning the Russian invasion, leading to an expression of disappointment by the United States. Israel later voted in favour of a UN General Assembly resolution condemning the invasion. At the request of the United States, Israel also pushed the United Arab Emirates to back the resolution.[121] Russia subsequently expressed strong dissatisfaction to the Israeli Foreign Ministry over Israel’s support of the UN General Assembly resolution.
On 5 March 2022, Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett flew to Moscow to have a three-hour meeting with Putin about the situation in Ukraine, after which Bennett spoke to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy by phone and flew to Germany to meet with Chancellor Olaf Scholz.Bennett also brought up the subject of the significant Jewish community caught up in the war during their three-hour discussion in the Kremlin, according to the Israeli source.
On 11 March 2022, the Ukrainian Ambassador to Israel stated that President Zelenskyy “does not” understand the Israeli refusal to provide defensive aid to Ukraine and accused Israel of being “afraid” of Russia’s “few airplanes and anti-missile systems in Syria”. He described Israeli mediation of the conflict as an excuse for not providing active support to Ukraine. Israel also immediately rejected a Ukrainian request for cyber weaponry, including Pegasus, to be used against Russia.
An unnamed senior Ukrainian official accused Bennett of having “proposed that we surrender”, claiming that Bennett urged Zelenskyy to “take the offer” of a peace deal from Putin. This report was subsequently denied by both the Israeli Prime Minister’s office and a senior adviser to Zelenskyy.
The United States has publicly urged Israel to back international sanctions against Russia. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland called on Israel not “to become the last haven for dirty money that’s fueling Putin’s wars”.
On 12 March 2022, Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov accused Israel of “unexplained indifference and unwillingness to take a side in the war” between Ukraine and Russia.
On 16 March 2022, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Russia viewed Israeli mediation favourably, due to Israel not joining international sanctions against Russia. However, Israel has aff
Interesting, thank you.
I see you put a lot of effort into this, but Russia is pals with Iran, has hosted Hamas in Moscow. Israel has provided humanitarian aid to Ukraine from the beginning, Zelenskyy was very supportive of Israel after October 7. Israel this year has started to provide Military aid to Ukraine.
The air strikes in Syria you mention included a strike on a drone making factory. Same kinds of drones Russia uses against Ukraine. Ukrainians were largely disappointed by Israel not giving them Iron Dome tech at the time (which probably wasn’t feasible, it’s a complicated system designed to protect an area much smaller than Ukraine), but welcomed the destruction of the drone factory since those are the drones used against them.
It’s very obvious the Israel, Ukraine and NATO are in alignment on one side. Russia, Iran (and their Axis of Resistance) are in alignment on the other side. Not exactly strong allies and it’s clearly two different wars, but Israel and Russia are most certainly not friends, and Iran is supplying Russia with weapons.
Israel is clearly not on the side of Ukraine, if it continues to buy Russian Oil and demanded Ukraine to surrender.
Also Israel sold military drones to Russia in 2015-2017, aiding Russian war efforts against Ukraine. Not that this was already after Russia started the war by annexing Crimea and fighting in Donetsk and Luhansk.
That is the critical point to understand. Neither Israel nor Iran are strictly aligned with one side. Russia and Iran were fighting over who gets the most influence on Assads regime, where Russia was happy with Israel bombing Iranian proxies in Syria.
Fuck Russia and fuck Israel.
Statement of the year.
I am so disappointed with Israel and it has never been clearer they are not America’s ally. They just expect America to always be there for them and not only do nothing in return for America, but now they are actively undermining our international relationships and more election interference than China, Russia, and Iran combined (and I constantly roast them about it too). It has forever changed my perception of Israel.
If you only start getting disappointed about Israel after the 7 of October. You don’t know much of the history of brutality for Israel since it’s inception
Oh, it goes back even further, to before Israel as a country even existed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
Russia sure is offering a lot of “China’s Final Warnings” lately, aren’t they?
Sounds like Russia is planning to sell off nuclear secrets to Iran in exchange for weapons and personnel to use against Ukraine.
Those nuke secrets wouldn’t be worth much if Israel completely destroys all their scientists and facilities capable of nuclear things.
Sounds like they already did.
Also sounds like they know that their client state getting bodied just adds to their humiliation and makes an alliance with Russia look even more vodka-headed than it always did.
Big words from the second best army in Ukraine
I think the north Korean army is now the second best army in Ukraine.
But they are the 2nd best army in Russia still!