The West has strongly condemned them. What else can they do
Egonallanon@feddit.uk
on 12 Aug 23:32
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Nice to see those who would have been victims of the Madagascar plan are repeating the same steps on their path to genocide. Its uncanny how much this rhymes at this point.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 13 Aug 01:58
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The vast majority of Israelis are of Middle Eastern or Eastern European descent, in that order. Most of these guys had nothing to do with the Holocaust or anything that led up to it.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world
on 13 Aug 02:09
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Yeah, most of the victims of the Holocaust didn’t make it out of the Holocaust.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 13 Aug 09:50
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I mean yes, and most of the people that did ended up going to America rather than Israel. My point is that the popular myth that Israeli Jews are somehow deeply tied to the Holocaust and other horrors of fascism and that's why they fled to Palestine is just that, a myth. Israel tries to play up that supposed connection to get Western sympathy, but again nothing of the sort exists. The parent comment is building on this myth by implying that the people of Israel are doing to others what has been done to them when in reality that's not true.
FelixCress@lemmy.world
on 13 Aug 08:23
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Read again. Slowly.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 13 Aug 09:35
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I did, and? I guess there was a typo but I don't see your point.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 13 Aug 09:53
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I mean, how many capital H Holocausts are there? The Madagascar Plan was IIRC a Nazi Germany plan to dump all Germany's Jews in Madagascar.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
on 12 Aug 23:52
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Forced expulsion aside (yes, I know that’s a huge fucking asterisk): Of all the places … South Sudan? Really?
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 13 Aug 02:00
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They couldn't get anyone else to accept them, because doing so as a neighbor of Israel means setting yourself up for war (or occupation) 10 years down the line, and if any of those Zionist stooges were willing to do that they'd have went to war already. Also I should note that the vast majority of South Sudanese don't speak Arabic, so this would be somehow even worse than dumping them in Sinai or something.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
on 13 Aug 00:46
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the fact that news articles aren’t using the words “ethnic cleansing” on the title is near criminal.
LinguisticKerosene@lemmy.wtf
on 13 Aug 08:13
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No, it’s doing its job perfectly. Euronews, much like all national and european media are on board with the zionists. Really it makes me want to vomit.
modernangel@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Aug 02:17
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“resettle” = Israel is stealing land that already belonged to someone
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
on 13 Aug 07:19
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I have no words.
And it would be so easy to stop them.
Wish I could personally stop all funds flowing into Israel right now.
This is actually yet another terrible outcome of Israel’s genocide from my understanding–the habitability of the entire area is effectively in question due to the sheer volume and degree of devastation that has been wrought. Effectively, even if Israel magically became a non-rogue state today, a resettlement and reparations program is necessary across Israel/Palestine for the survivors.
shiroininja@lemmy.world
on 13 Aug 08:40
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They’re going to die there. Sudan has been in conflict and genocide my entire adulthood
The moderate Israeli majority are the only ones who can stop this, now that the US has made it perfectly clear which side it’s on.
It seems, though, that they are content to merely wave a sign around in protest.
They want peace, but not enough to actually do anything about it.
Time for a general strike in Israel.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 13 Aug 15:57
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Moderate what now? According to a recent poll, 80% of Israeli Jews aren't brothered by the suffering of Palestinians. Look up the Tel Aviv University Peace Index; Israeli society is rotten to the core. The moderate position in Israeli politics is "we should prioritize the safety of the hostages, of course without compromising the Great Patriotic War™." The people who give enough of a shit about the genocide to act are a fringe minority among fringe minorities
now that the US has made it perfectly clear which side it's on.
US's been perfectly clear which side it's on for decades; Trump is just louder about it.
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So, are we the west opposing Israel enough? Have we begun the full embargo?
The West has strongly condemned them. What else can they do
Nice to see those who would have been victims of the Madagascar plan are repeating the same steps on their path to genocide. Its uncanny how much this rhymes at this point.
The vast majority of Israelis are of Middle Eastern or Eastern European descent, in that order. Most of these guys had nothing to do with the Holocaust or anything that led up to it.
Yeah, most of the victims of the Holocaust didn’t make it out of the Holocaust.
I mean yes, and most of the people that did ended up going to America rather than Israel. My point is that the popular myth that Israeli Jews are somehow deeply tied to the Holocaust and other horrors of fascism and that's why they fled to Palestine is just that, a myth. Israel tries to play up that supposed connection to get Western sympathy, but again nothing of the sort exists. The parent comment is building on this myth by implying that the people of Israel are doing to others what has been done to them when in reality that's not true.
Read again. Slowly.
I did, and? I guess there was a typo but I don't see your point.
Which holocaust are you referring to?
I mean, how many capital H Holocausts are there? The Madagascar Plan was IIRC a Nazi Germany plan to dump all Germany's Jews in Madagascar.
Forced expulsion aside (yes, I know that’s a huge fucking asterisk): Of all the places … South Sudan? Really?
They couldn't get anyone else to accept them, because doing so as a neighbor of Israel means setting yourself up for war (or occupation) 10 years down the line, and if any of those Zionist stooges were willing to do that they'd have went to war already. Also I should note that the vast majority of South Sudanese don't speak Arabic, so this would be somehow even worse than dumping them in Sinai or something.
the fact that news articles aren’t using the words “ethnic cleansing” on the title is near criminal.
No, it’s doing its job perfectly. Euronews, much like all national and european media are on board with the zionists. Really it makes me want to vomit.
“resettle” = Israel is stealing land that already belonged to someone
I have no words.
And it would be so easy to stop them.
Wish I could personally stop all funds flowing into Israel right now.
They could resettle them in Gaza. It’s been recently razed, so the possibilities are huge.
This is actually yet another terrible outcome of Israel’s genocide from my understanding–the habitability of the entire area is effectively in question due to the sheer volume and degree of devastation that has been wrought. Effectively, even if Israel magically became a non-rogue state today, a resettlement and reparations program is necessary across Israel/Palestine for the survivors.
They’re going to die there. Sudan has been in conflict and genocide my entire adulthood
The moderate Israeli majority are the only ones who can stop this, now that the US has made it perfectly clear which side it’s on. It seems, though, that they are content to merely wave a sign around in protest. They want peace, but not enough to actually do anything about it.
Time for a general strike in Israel.
Moderate what now? According to a recent poll, 80% of Israeli Jews aren't brothered by the suffering of Palestinians. Look up the Tel Aviv University Peace Index; Israeli society is rotten to the core. The moderate position in Israeli politics is "we should prioritize the safety of the hostages, of course without compromising the Great Patriotic War™." The people who give enough of a shit about the genocide to act are a fringe minority among fringe minorities
US's been perfectly clear which side it's on for decades; Trump is just louder about it.