Former US general advises Switzerland to prepare for war.
(www.swissinfo.ch)
from Mee@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2025 15:31
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from Mee@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2025 15:31
https://reddthat.com/post/37172259
According to former United States general Ben Hodges, the withdrawal of US troops from Europe is only a matter of time. In an interview with SonntagsBlick, he advises Switzerland to prepare for war.
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Humans are so fucking stupid.
Most are ok. It’s the spoiled nepo babies who’ve grown into privileged assholes that are the problem.
Plus the morons that keep voting them into power.
electoralism is not the root cause of this particular problem
Ele… what? Phew, for a second there I thought I had accidentally posted on .ml again.
electoralism. sorry for using hard words, didnt know you were a ‘hurr ml’ person.
it means that fascism would get to power anyway, regardless of you scribbling on a paper in favour of diet fascism or not.
So how do you decide who gets to govern, if not through elections? And yes, I am very much a “hurr ml” person. I’ve rarely seen such an accumulation of blockheads outside r/thedonald, back in the day.
its not about deciding who to govern here. burgeois elections in a burgeois state will only elect people aligned with their agenda, which means you will keep walking towards fascism regardless of who wins an election, and none of the alternatives will actually enact your will, even when they have a majority. democrats and their warmongering are especially bad to us in the periphery of the planet
as for solutions, join a leftist political organization or union. it will involve talking to people around you, striking, helping and building community and participating in direct action with systemic change in mind. the more people get involved, deeper gets the change we can enact. it doesn’t have to involve capitalist institutions at all. in most socialist/anarchist systems they chose their leaders, yes, by debating and voting in a council but that assumes the system is not rigged against us, which pretty obviously is in capitalism for the reasons mentioned above and more.
you think us as blockheads because you probably read no political theory beyond liberalism, if that. be more open minded towards leftists, and do a bit of studying and you will notice our ideals are close to the left-leaning liberals. we think you as blockheads because you keep trying to change things in a misguided or misinformed way that is pretty obviously not solving any problems.
you can shake your fists all you want at the hefty percentage of people that recognize this (not only us leftists btw, which are a tiny minority in the US) and doesnt bother to vote, but you won’t change anything because a compelling candidate for leadership is not viable in the current system. my country has mandatory voting and nothing changes either, electoralism is not the solution.
So what is the solution? Violently overthrowing one bunch of bastards will only end up with another bunch of bastards. Completely smashing the system will lead straight to warlordism. Lasting positive change was only ever achieved at the ballot box. And if you despise democracy, I despise you as much as the fascists and I fail to see the difference.
i mentioned the solution in my previous post:
i will be more succint: communism is the history proven way.
also from your response it looks like you didnt even read what i’m bothering to type so ill be succint again before i leave: the capitalist electoral system is designed to look democratic but it is not at all.
So personally, as a Scandinavian social-democrat and union member I would like to ask this question in response to “communism is the history proven way”: show me. What examples from history do you have?
I was going to ask the same thing.
If we evict the socialist dictatures/guerillas led by marxist-leninist parties and other authoritarian flavors of communism, remains some attempts at libertarian communism, some surviving longer than other : Paris in 1871, Ukraine in 1917, Spain in 1936-1937 are short lived examples of past communist situations that brought social changes a century or half a century before they could be obtained again, for those we obtained back. Nowadays examples are Rojava and Zapatistad territoried in Chiapas, Mexico.
Thank you for answering. I appreciate the efforts of your listed examples, especially considering their attempts at establishing human rights or dignities before it was even a thing. What I do feel is a counterpoint is how short lived they all were. I also feel for the Kurds (tough neighborhood) but I am not quite ready to move to Rojava, despite their developments I also fear that in time it may be added to your list of short lived examples. Do you feel that libertarian communism is the best theoretical alignment for a modern communist state?
The whole world is a “tough neighborhood” for small states. Cuba has been remarkably successful given its adversaries.
Thanks for your appreciation. We of course agree that they all are very very short lived. Sadly, the Kurds will effectively probably have a rough time in the near future. Zapatistas are quite an exception in here, they manage to stay steady for some years now, but of course their situation is quite unique (though in all examples I gave it was unique situations).
The common point in all those cases are that the reason for their short durations are more or less authoritarians states, in its diverse forms (Republic in 1871, Fascists+Republic in 1936, Communists in 1917, Turkey for Rojava, etc.). So i feel like if every system that has been criticized as bad all fought against libertarian communism, maybe that’s a hint about how good a system it is. I’m not sure if it’s the best for modern communism, maybe nowadays situation requires something else, but thanks to its versatility, I think it could adapt. So yeah, I kinda feel that libertarian communism and its declinations are the best theoretical alignment for communism in general (though it’s not necessarily a state, precisely).
revolution itself is ‘authoritarian’, countries suffering violence can’t save themselves with love.
good on the countries in a better off position that can take that moral high ground.
cuba, china, i really like the chilean attempt, the recent ones in africa, mexico has walked a few steps, vietnam… theres plenty in the modern era. pick your poison, the third world is chock full of attempts to get rid of capitalism.
scandinavians come to my country to extract pollute and colonize it. very easy to be comfortable in such circumstances. stop that and keep your comforts if you want it to be impressive.
I am not sure what you are trying to say, and I am not sure why you are reacting as you are.
My only point by mentioning Scandinavia was to say I believe in social benefits, unionization, and heavy market regulation by the state. That being said, I personally know of no successful communist state (successful in the eyes of the average proletariat) from history. I don’t believe it is intellectually honest to call Cuba and China successful examples.
I do not see that getting rid of capitalism is a sensible or viable option (or that it has ever been done without famine or other such terrible side effects), but I never doubt that the invisible hand, is the invisible hand in my pocket - so it is our duty as voters to make sure that we regulate the hell out of everything and our government has the teeth to do so.
I believe you mentioned above that you didn’t vote, but you are dissatisfied with foreign companies extracting resources (and presumably your government failing to sensibly tax and regulate the practice). I’m not sure you will be able to change that without either voting or taking part in revolution.
assuming you are arguing in good faith you are, again, in a comfortable and privileged position to take when northern europe is pillaging the third world for our resources using capitalist imperialism. you don’t represent the average proletariat, and thats peachy coming from the place that colonized us for centuries.
china was the poorest hungriest planet in the world before the revolution and is now an industrial world power, cuba has achieved amazing things despite a brutal blockade by the most powerful empire in history, compare it to haiti. look up why some africans are having revolutions right now.
beyond that i don’t know what to tell you, you mention all the nice things you have because of the aforementioned imperialism like its a natural thing to have everywhere in the capitalist world.
here is the problem: the rest of the world can’t vote imperialism away. we get invaded and destroyed, look up what happened to the elected chilean socialist government i mentioned before if you want to get an idea of what i am talking about.
I definetly did not say that at all.
I apologize for the misunderstanding- I took your statement that imperialism cannot be voted away as you not voting.
I consider the current Chinese government to be closer to fascism and imperialism than to actual socialism, and to say that the great famine was not a direct result of bad (Maoist) policy would be revisionist.
You state that imperialism cannot be voted away, but is that not what the Chileans did? Is that not what has happened in Bolivia and Venezuela? Yes the imperialists do their best to meddle, but they were in fact voted out, which is counter to your original point.
As someone who believes in strengthening the community to forment change you must know that antagonizing me for something I am unable to apologize for is no way to create more comrades. Yes, luck of the draw I was born Scandinavian and not Yemeni, I understand that there are socioeconomic consequences of that. Shame on you for not even attempting to have a friendly conversation with a unionized factory worker.
maoist policymakers tried to do the same rapid industrialization that stalin did in the ussr and failed, but it was by no means the main reason for the famine. i will remind you again that china was one of the poorest countries in the world and you don’t build strong infrastructure to feed everyone reliably overnight. it was also greatly exagerated by the west, as always.
the thing is, though, that this was about 70-ish years ago? china has enjoyed record economic growth, and improvement on the lives of average citizens. of course i’m not saying its perfect and they have many Ls but when push comes to shove, its nothing short of amazing seeing what they were able to achieve in just 50-60 years. especially coming from a country that can get as poor as they were back then in some regions. they have struck a good balance between free markets and state control, and they are slowly transitioning away from capitalist free markets as it lives out its usefulness.
i find the “china bad” rhetoric of many westerners to be a bit disingenious because you can attribute similar catastrophes to most countries if you look to their past.
i asked you to check out chilean socialism precisely because their electoral system was attacked easily and quickly, with dire consequences. please check it out, its eye-opening to why voting socialism in rarely works, even if the socialist somehow manages to win with the burgeois puting their fingers on the scale. sometimes violence is the only way, sometimes it is not. sometimes going back to a parlimentary-like system like china is necessary, sometimes you can do direct elections like cuba. good on the countries that manage to do this more peacefully, but blame not the victims for trying to defend themselves.
venezuela is victim to constant destabilization attempts in the form of sanctions and attacks to its elections. it literally just happened again last year, they are unable to enact good policy and move further than the frankly kind of weird socialism they built. i wouldnt say they are managing well, nor that they have a good future ahead. their situation is closer to cuba in that the sanctions do the brunt of the damage.
i don’t know about bolivia enough to talk about it without saying some wrong bullshit, so ill abstain.
i’m simply explaining to you something that you might have not noticed, judging by the content of your posts. i’m sorry if sometimes i come across as frustrated with some of this. it really is peachy for westerners to be saying “just vote! we have all these things by voting :D” to us when it goes much deeper and is sometimes related to that. europeans can keep whatever system they want as long as they treat others fairly.
with that said, socialism is a system that allows for the comforts you have, but not the excess consumption you enjoy. it is, however, a system not so dependent on exploiting poor people to keep the rich rich. i don’t actually expect many westerners to think about revolution before suffering through capitalist crisis from losing their colonies and/or not being able to grow forever.
us fascism looks to be just that, so they are trying to turn the exploitation inwards. socialism is a proven way to stop fascism, but i don’t expect americans will do it until it gets really bad either.
This reads like satire, a parody of tankies.
its literally the basics. you heard it before.
No, it’s delusional bullshit. Copy-pasta for LARPers.
doing nothing in the face of fascism is delusional bullshit.
it takes a sheltered westerner to hate leftism that hard.
I am not a “sheltered westerner”.
Your world salad about bourgeois elections leading to facaism is complete bullshit and clearly not true, be it in the west or anywhere in the world.
Fascist/oligarch take over via democratic means is a lot more complex than that and has more to do with local social attitudes and certain qualities of a given political system.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
the very withdrawal of troops in the OP we are arguing under is caused by fascism. caused by burgeois elections failing to present any option that didnt point to it.
oligarchs can take over whenever they want because in capitalism, they are the actual leaders over the puppetshow.
we are literally witnessing it unfold in real time.
Oligarchs taking over is a reflection of a given social situation. It’s not a deterministic thing. It happens because of how a lot of people start to think. This is not a physical law of nature. It’s all in our hands.
Your bourgeois elections word salad is joke. Get real, no one is going to take it seriously outside of internet LARP. You know it yourself, don’t lie!
I say this as someone who speaks 3 languages, has lived for multiple years in countries in North America, Europe and Asia and has visited about ~30 countries so far.
oligarchs are the ruling class in capitalism. “oligarchs taking over” is a misnomer, they already own everything by definition, in every capitalist country. they can choose to fuck your life at any time, if threatened. the US is prime example of just this.
if you don’t think socialism is possible despite the many real world examples, and don’t actually want a solution because you are rich enough to travel leisurely around the world, step aside from politics and stop worrying about it. let the adults do the work, its in our hands after all.
if your larp is true, you really are the “sheltered westerner” i assumed you to be, and a tiny minority in the planet. i don’t think theres much value in this conversation anymore, but seethe more if you will.
Elections don’t work when education has been systematically degraded. Elections don’t work when there are no restrictions on the amount of contributions that oligarchs can contribute to a political candidate. Elections don’t work when there is no safeguard against election tampering. Elections don’t work when oligarchs own the media.
So what do you suggest?
I don’t get what happened here. Did you really said “electoralism is not the root cause of fascism”, meaning that power would end up corrupted no matter what, and people actually downvoted you on .world, meaning they would think that electoralism IS a problem ? That’s not at all the cliché I have for either .ml and .world folks.
Or, since your original comment was edited later than its reply, did you edit it to make it say something else ?
I added the word root, because i recognize it bears some influence. im not a native english speaker so sometimes what i type diverges from what i mean.
clarifying: i mean that elections have already been corrupted and just a show. as evidenced by the fact the “more reasonable party of moderates” enacts more and more right wing policies to the point they are actually just conservatives now. this is not just an US phenomenon either, i live the same dilemma.
Nobody voted Schmusk into power.
But everybody who wanted to could have known that Trump was going to appoint the most comically unqualified people.
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I mean… It’s not like the signs weren’t there.
No, but what was coming was in their face. The US is OK with it. We are no longer an ally, but please don’t forget about us…
Douglas Adams,
Are you sure?
In any event, its probably a game of tug of war, and the decisions we make as a society depend greatly on how society’s parents were raised.
Yes I’m sure, because most people are not psychopathic, sociopathic or super-rich assholes.
In fact only a few are at least 2 out of 3 there. The problem is they’re also the ones with the most power.
The question at hand is stupidity. I’m not sure why you invented different problems to discuss.
This type of discourse is pretty common around here though…
Just my opinion. Take it or leave it.
The game is abusing the reserve currency to fund your defense. The US extorts third world countries into accepting its inflation by utilizing USD, which funds its military, and Europe figured it would be able to coast on the the US doing this in perpetuity.
The problem the US faces is China stopped recycling into US treasuries, and other countries are following suit. So the world is changing and rates will be higher globally moving forward, hence Europe’s sudden goal of rushing in a CBDC by October.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHd_1QEC5r4
I’m not crazy right, clearly aging demographics and higher yield treasuries are the cause of all of this instability the last few years?
People let them stay in power
some people have to vote for them and put them up there. So i would say most is accurate sadly :/
Standing in the middle of a fully stocked supermarket saying, “well, I guess this is it. We have no choice but to kill and eat each other.”
It’s hard to know where to begin with people like this. They are more ideologically unhinged than anyone in the Middle East, more indoctrinated than any communist, more institutionalised than a life sentence prisoner, and more ignorant than a drunken donkey.
I think you’ve misunderstood. It sounds like you’ve interpreted the headline to mean that General Hodges is threatening to invade Switzerland. Perhaps you only read the headline and not the actual article.
Hodges is stating the reality that Trump will withdraw US troops from Europe in the future, regardless of how bad an idea that is.
Trump is the kind of moron who only understands short-term profit (especially profit for himself) and doesn’t give a shit about long-term international cooperation. Some very bad decisions are going to be made in the near future.
Hodges understands the value of European relationships but also sees the inevitability of what’s coming and is trying to make the reality of it clear.
Pooh! I like your country! I need it, give it to me!
I don’t think you know anything about Switzerland., infact, I know you don’t.
lol, wat
I think you hit the nail on the head with that “you just read the title” and now they’re mad for being called out.
Embarrassment can cause people to lash out in irrational ways.
I have that user tagged previously as a Russian Troll. Just ignore him.
They aren't sending their best.
I mean… nothing substantial, I guess you’re right… but I’m also not claiming to know anything about Switzerland. I’m claiming to have actually read the article, and to have some reading comprehension which you are evidently lacking.
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As bad as it sounds, if our European leaders can get their head out of their collective US-aligned asses, it could finally be a push to a more cohesive EU-defence policy that is not dependant on US logistics and firepower.
We have allowed ourselves to be way to complacent for far too long.
US has a dependency on EU logistics
Not after the US sanctions said logistics :D
I hope this is what comes of it.
There are silver linings like this. The good news is that if we fight now, Trump will have destroyed a lot of the institutions (both domestic and foreign) that were holding back real progress. Clears the way to build better ones.
Collectively European nations have the economy and technology to build a Military Industrial Complex to rival the US… I hope they truly wake up before it’s too late, lest the birthplace of western civilization also become it’s grave 😢
I think the main reason why the EU doesn’t care much about defense is that their people don’t “value” war as much as other nations.
They live comfortably. They have their social services. Life is pretty good, for the most part.
Trying to convince them to go die in a war isn’t going to be very popular. I genuinely believe the Western world is in for a rude awakening when an actual conflict breaks out.
It’s not just logistics. These are people’s lives.
I’m so ready to never fly or drive to the 51st or 52nd states or Alaska. Alaska and Hawaii and Puerto Rico are the WTF parts of the US. Like how come they are not just independent nations?
Well, we sort of toppled an empire when we stole Hawaii, it literally was independent
Understood. I mean California Oregon, Louisiana and Texas were Mexican at some point and mexica before the Spaniards.
Now France has entered the chat too! But yes, your point that history gets messy depending on the lense being used remains (at least, I hope I am not misrepresenting you)
Well it was Spanish from 1763 to 1803. The USA began existing in 1776…in July of that year. When the French arrived, various Native American groups, including the Atakapa, Caddo, Chitimacha, Choctaw, Houma, Natchez, and Tunica tribes, lived in the area. You’re totally right, it was actually never Mexican.
Even the California and Oregon thing is sort of a stretch. Like I’m sure there were settlements per the historical record. But I very much doubt they were actually identifying as the Mexicans we know and love today. More like Spaniards and their slaves. There’s actually a really old history pre-USA of mejican exploration to create a trade route to China. Lots of Chinese people traveled for trade to the Philippines and Mexico and the same for Mexicans. Along the trade route you can find all sorts of intermixing… Mexipinos, chinexicans, japaxincans, etc.
It wasn’t called Louisiana before the French named it that, I was just having fun with the way you phrased to things
Yeah no worries. It got me googling.
Oregon was British, thank you very much!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Country
FYI - The history on the Hudson’s Bay Company is FASCINATING!
At some point. Lol…not lol.
Going off of Russia’s rules, I think that means we (Canada) get to annex Oregon right?
I’d allow it! :)
Hawaii was an independent nation, until they allowed some US business interests in. Those businessman bolstered by a US Marines contingent + some artillery and a tugboat with a single cannon on it invaded when a new constitution was written by the Queen that would strip the companies of some power and give it to the poor. They imprisoned the queen. After a failed attempt at rescuing her and a “trial” by a hastily set up “US military court” she signed over the country to the US in exchange for the release of her would-be rescuers, who would have been executed. In 1993 the US apologized to Hawaii and acknowledged that the actions had been illegal and a coup d’tat of a legitimate government, and an illegal use of military force. But there were no reparations or offers to return Hawaiians to power.
Many Hawaiians are still pretty vocal that they’d like the US to get the eff out of their country. They are disorganized though and theres a colossal amount of white wealthy that are against making the injustice right in even small ways. Capitalism is insidious and unaccountable. It doesn’t balk at murder and uses laws only when it benefits them and ignores them otherwise.
Ruined by capitalism. Time and time again
Adding to this (and also, thank you for spelling out what I only hinted at): That last queen wrote a book to tell the story of what happened.
Her brother, who was the last king of Hawaii, wrote a book of Hawaiian mythology, too, that is worth checking out if that’s your bag.
Switzerland… war… lol
Switzerland is always prepared for war. Prepared to stay the fuck out of it and profit from it.
I mean, if that’s an option …
Doing my service 🫡 (I am a conscript and don’t want this)
US troops often withdraw leaving way too much equipment behind.
I better not see civilians with “cool military” gear! That’s worse than any weeb or m’ladyian/fedorian.
But maybe I get to burn a Humvee or two since we “lack” those (now obviously surplus too) cybertrucks over here.
Shoving helos off a carrier deck comes to mind, when we were actually trying to evacuate refugees instead of lowering plane flaps to push off the hangers on. Guess the Taliban has Strykers and MRAPs now just like our cops, yay murica
I feel sorry for their mechanics.
They’re about to learn the real lesson of the Big Green Weenie…logistics
It's high time that we throw out the US army from Europe. They've been waging war in the middle east from Rammstein for decades.
Because Russia and the US like to invade countries on trumped up claims, and one facing conequences is bad looks for the other one too?
It seems like they want to downsize. I wonder if Europeans can convince the orange guy to sell some equipment at a discount rather than ship it home.
We’d better build our own IMO.
Yeah you guys need to build.
I was thinking of a country that might be able to use it now.
Sure, hopefully we’ll do as much as we can and buy the rest, but the USA might not sell it (like information).
I doubt it as well, but I bet it would be worth the shot. Be nice to see some allies get a much deserved windfall.
Lmao this guy
Anyone taking bets which Country gets threatened next I’m thinking Jamaica had to hand over 50percent of its rum.
“Puerto Rico needs to end it’s vicious trade war against the US or risk it’s government being overthrown and made a US state.”
They better start exporting their bountiful electricity! They got so much of it, enough for a good 3 or 4 days of AI questions about how awesome our beautiful leader Mr orange is.
I hear Puerto Rico is actually stocked full of paper towels, so much so that their politicians are literally throwing them around! They should definitely be sharing with the US.
/s
This isn’t really a threat, because the person saying it doesn’t make those decisions.
This didn’t start with Trump, it has been building for a long time. I haven’t seen anyone spell it out so clearly before though.
Maybe you weren’t paying attention when Obama was president? …wikipedia.org/…/East_Asian_foreign_policy_of_the…
Oh, this is exactly what I was saying, this has been going on since Obama.
What I mean is the pivot to the east was pretty clear with Obama. With Trump? I think he sees China and Russia more as a role model than an opponent, but who knows what’s going on in his mind.
Your guess is as good as mine.
Soo. Uhh… what exactly happens when US loses it’s soft power and trust in Europe and Europe slowly cozies up to China?
Oh thats easy, Europe becomes the enemy, which you already see happening. You dont say you’re getting another country 's territory one way or another if they’re not your enemy.
That’s an enemy they’ll have a hard time take on though.
If anyone is interested in the state of things in Switzerland:
Our defense is in chaos right now. A scandal in our state-owned but public weapons manufacturer just broke a few weeks ago and shortly after the secretary of the departement of defense announced her resignation. We will see if the newly elected one will improve the situation.
The army is generally seen as somewhat of a joke, especially by people who served, which is more than half of all Swiss men. We like to call it a “Pfadiverein” (boy scouts association).
Even with all that, the right wing parties want to give a shitload more money to defense, and cut costs in social spending and foreign aid to compensate. Left of centre the need to improve defense is also accepted, but 1) before the army gets more money, they need to get their shit together and 2) more important than the army itself is integration with the european security Infrastructure (the left parties are also very pro-EU). The centre politicians usually mix blth stances and lean more one or the other way.
Also we still stand to buy fighter jets from the US, and only the left parties are calling to cancel the deal.
Then you don’t understand what’s REALLY going-on:
Trump wants to smash Canada & Greenland, so that between Trump+Musk on ALL of North America + Greenland,
& Putin-backed-by-China,
the hated-by-them EU can be DESTROYED,
& then they get to be the ONLY “kings” ruling the world.
FIGHT TO THE DEATH TO SAVE EUROPE’S LIFE, if you have to!
Trump’s declaring war against Canada, my country, is certain, within 2-2.5y, maximum.
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Oh, while the US is waging TOTAL WAR against Canada, 3y from now, if anyone think that China-backed-Russia isn’t going to be rampaging Europe, they’re mindblind/incompetent.
This is THE GREAT FILTER: humankind’s species-“puberty”.
Grow-up transformation either will be earned, by some remnant of our world’s people,
XOR
the galaxy will be silent of our-kind, permanently, by the end of this century, forever.
Natural Selection, it’s called, within an Extinction Event, too…
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I don’t know what form of stroke you just had, but as a fellow Swiss - Raylon@lemmy.world summarized it beautifully. To stay on topic, with our current military / defence setup; we’re fucked.
youtu.be/UjtOGPJ0URM
I only think you’re optimistic in the time frame. I’m expecting within 6 months, Trump will try. He will fail, because he fails to understand how many USians will take up arms to defend Canada, from within the US itself.
Once that happens, it’s game over for the US. I honestly think it will be the spark that causes civil war, and this time, a dissolution of the union.
I project within 10 years, the United States will consist of about 15 states, and the rest of the states will be split into their own countries, with one of them possibly incorporated into Canada.
My guess is the NE gets turned into another province, and the Pacific Coast states will be the own country; in the end, likely about 20 years out.
Ok first off LOL I appreciate the thought experiment we all have them and anything is in the realm of possibility but still be batshit insane.
That said, I want Minnesota because selfishly their hip hop scene is bumpin
Man you guys really swing for the fences and get specific with your predictions, love it.
I think Mexico is the most likely candidate for attempted 1st annexation. Trump hates colored people, thus he thinks it is an easy win on multiple levels. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mexico ends up as a proxy combatant on the behalf of Canada and the EU, and likely using their cartels to kill members of Yarvin’s Cabal to send a message.
I was thinking Summer 2025
If it makes you feel any better, we have a joke in Austria that we might as well not have an army, because we border 1) NATO, 2) Switzerland, and if either of those become a threat, we might as well capitulate immediately.
Tangentially related, he once said: “I had a German tell me one time, he said, the two pillars for us are NATO and the EU. NATO is for life, EU is for quality of life.” I wonder how that’ll play out in the near future.
EDIT: corrected link.
Has the USA ever won a war?
Every war they’ve ever declared. They just haven’t declared war since WW2
So not a war since things have gotten so computer. Comforting.
typo?
Hey kid, I’m a computer, stop all the downloading
Not a typo. I’m making fun of Trump’s comment when he got into the Tesla last week.
Also funny to see that I’m being downvoted for making an accurate comment. Poor Americans are so thin skinned.
Desert Shield/Storm and Panama were overwhelmingly sucessful military operations because they had clear, achievable objectives. George HW Bush was a bastard, but his team could execute a military mission.
Also, the Iranian army didnt fight back because they didnt want to. Some even asked, “what took you so long?..”
Yes, they win most of them. They mostly lose when they try to occupy a foreign country and do counterinsurgency.
…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_wars_involving_the_Unite…
Counter insurgency is tough to overcome. As you kill insurgents, more insurgents pop up because the initially killed insurgents were their family and friends. The only way to do it is to rule with an iron fist.
I disagree that there is any way to do it. Ultimately, people don’t want you there and are unhappy enough that they’re willing to die rather than cooperate. It is simply too expensive in terms of man hours, lives, and money to keep a population under occupation like that. At the very least, you need to do as the colonial powers did and exploit a local division to deputize some of the locals to rule on your behalf.
The Mongolians did it. Rome did it. History is littered with countless examples of one nation overcoming another.
Their civil war?
Nailed it.
I seem to recall a pretty successful one against the British…
LOL. How much help did you get though?
Make him a present, some winter vacations in Switzerland and some summer ones in Italy. Cool those US guys down, down to the bottom of earth
If Putin had any desire to conquer Switzerland, all I’ll say is good luck. They’re:
Switzerland been preparing for war since 1648.
It’s unfortunate that we’ve configured our world like this, with rival nation states and militaries vying for supremacy. In reality, the conflict is between humans and militarism. Militarism will kill us all, in one way or another.
Basically: Si vis pacem, para bellum
This is blatant fear mongering, russia can’t even defeat the Ukraine. How the fuck do they manage a second front?