Not again!

If they can fake launch, can they fake dienner, too?

if you can fake a wrench, you can fake a ball!

I’m much more proficient these days with my second language than my first, poetic even, but I do still take my time going down the wrong side of stairs, with the rail and my cane to support my movement.

For this and many more reasons, every day I live is a frozen revenge in a boiling summer served to fascists.

And yet, going to a remote corner of the planet, lying down on the ground, and taking it all in, forms the basis for most of our mythology and dreams.

I mean, how exactly do you create a “sustainable” rocket? Genuinely curious, as the sheer amount of energy it takes to escape the earth’s gravity well would render this an almost impossible feat.

Sadly, NASA has to appeal to the Trump admin for funding.

“Canadian” is actually an American DEI category.

It could be worse. It could be Trump claiming all the glory for himself and jinxing it to miserably fail like everything else that orange pedophile clown touches.

You: complains rocket isn’t reusing enough stuff

Also you: complains rocket is reusing stuff.

Yeah I kinda cringed on that “god bless america” speech before the launch. Isn’t there 2 Canadians on board and a big part of the Orion was made/designed by ESA? All they got “and our partners around the world” in that speech.

I’m happy that “we” are going back there but this propaganda sillyness is disappointing. I know its always been a part of governments doing space projects, after all I think the only reason “we” are going back there is because the Chinese are going back there. The disappointing thing is that when I was a kid I really thought we would be over ourselves by now, but turns out that seems to be impossible and we are just going back to throwing rocks at each others. Plaaargh.

Anyway. Cool launch, that thing jumped off the pad as if someone kicked it in the nuts. Impressive stuff.

Unfortunately NASA is always tied up with politics. I would not be surprised if the whole ego stroking speech was a mandate by the current American administration.

Or, if not a mandate, pandering. Because if the politicians in charge of giving NASA its funding don’t like what’s being said, they will likely cut their funding, even in the middle of a long-term successful project.

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Yeah but you can see the obvious absurdity in stating it. Hope they don’t get fried by the intense solar weather or smashed by one of these fireballs from the apparent debris field we’re traveling through.

are they doing a further away turn around the moon than before?

Greetings Moon Men! We mean you no harm. We simply come in search of delicious herbs and spices. And to help you run your own longstanding society, about which we clearly know best. Cough, cough. Sorry, we are a bit under the weather with some Earth pathogens - you ARE immune, are you not?

I’m not anti-intellectual, I was a true space kid, watching every mission after 1965. I was a Apollo 11 super fan. I built models of the Apollo 11 and the Lunar Lander. I kept a subscription to national Geographic for decades because they had such great space photos. I should be loving this.

But it’s pretty obvious that all modern space exploration is mostly about giving future trillionaires an option to get off the planet when we inevitably turn on them.

I love Space, but rather than assist Sociopathic Oligarchs in engineering their Panic/ Escape Rockets, perhaps we should concentrate on the very serious real and growing problems in our country, and the world, like climate change, health care, homelessness, poverty, infrastructure, etc. we’ve neglected these things for so long that they are starting get desperate, and yet we’re cheering as we spend billions to send people to space for no really good reason, other than national pride.

I don’t feel a lot of national pride right now, which has been unusual for me, who came from a military family, and was born in a converted barracks. I don’t recognize America right now, and waving flags and cheering on a MAGA bandaid that’s supposed to make me forget about EVERYTHING else they are doing to our country, looks phony and ugly to me. I don’t see anything happening in America that’s worth cheering for. That includes space travel, which has been a lifelong love since the Gemini program.

MAGA has even ruined Space for me.

only my wife can inspect my anus

I’m sure that one day when we finally send a man to uranus

to wipe up klingons.

I’m pretty sure they are doing some studies into immune systems in space,

none of that relevant to disease on earth.

The moon could serve as the launch point for further exploration of the solar system. Off the top of my head, the big benefit of that would be asteroid mining.

To me that’s the biggest draw of developing our local spaceflight capabilities. Mining on earth is a gigantic environmental issue. If we could do that in space where the ores are already partially exposed, that would be awesome.

∙	AstroForge
∙	Karman+
∙	TransAstra
∙	Asteroid Mining Corporation (AMC)
∙	Origin Space​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

If it’s just to test the equipment why risk the lives of the astronauts?

we can also just look at who are currently the faces of the private space race, and their beliefs and how they run their companies

They will just say this moon landing was ai, just like the last one was supposedly faked too 🙄

This mission will at least help bring space and science back into the mainstream and shut down flat earther kooks.

If you want to bring space and science back into the mainstream you want to fix media not to make useless space missions.

I agree that these kinds of missions are needed but this isn’t really comparable to Apollo 8. Apollo 8 made it into lunar orbit, this one is just doing a fly by. In a lot of other ways it’s an improvement. Much safer, carrying more people in comfier conditions with better video cameras and even bringing women and non-americans. Not just test pilots either, but actual scientists. It’s a representation of what’s changed since Apollo for both better and worse. NASA has much less of the USA’s budget than it did for Apollo, and things took much longer. It’s also been stated that the next mission won’t make it to the surface as it was originally planned, but is instead going to be testing the lunar Landers in lunar orbit. They are relying on Blue Origin and SpaceX to not just build but also launch and transport the Landers into lunar orbit. It’s very different to how things were done back then. If this was like the Apollo programme and they started at the same time we would have landed multiple times by now probably some years ago. Apollo really was a crash development program.

Absolutely worth it. This is a test mission equivalent to something like apollo 8. A dry run for going to the moon and actually landing it.

land on the moon to do what? You said it’s absolutely worth it so i expect you to absolutely know what this mission is about.

Terrible take. A lot of what we know in science is due to NASA research. NASA is <0.5% of the federal budget. There are plenty of egregious things we are wasting money on to be upset about - this is not one of them.

Right, it’s definitely this and not the 200 billion dollar budget of ICE, or all the resources going towards the war in Iran right now.

While Whitey’s on the moon

At least the crew for this mission includes a black guy and a woman, unlike the 24 white dudes who crewed the Apollo missions.

What good does colonizing the moon do? Genuinely curious.

Right, my mistake. Shitter is clogged tho. Seriously. I know how to design a clogproof shitter (you need a mashing stick) and look what they did.

Yeah, why do things! Let’s just sit on our ass and stagnate!

Stop trying, idiots, things are hard!

Im on the same page. I feel we should concentrate on discovery with probes or rovers and such and automation. trying to mine something robotically on an asteroid. if we can do that then see if we can smelt it. See if we can create fuel in space and such. I don’t think we will progress at all till we can be sourcing and manufacturing in space.

The moon is a good stopping off point for the rest of the solar system. Launching interplanetary missions from the moon is much easier assuming a moon base exists

Lucky for you, we have sent probes to the moon.

I don’t care what we call it, as long as we keep funding the science and engineering. The amount of people who don’t understand why we should do this stuff is astounding. And I’m honestly not the best at articulating why we should do it.

I’m talking about the comments section here, not the content of the article.

Its the entire reason they did a full orbit before firing the lunar injection burn, so that if something was wrong they could jettison the service module and perform a deorbit burn for an early splashdown in the pacific.

Yet another legacy sequel.

What is the reason for needing to go to the moon?

Sir, this is Lemmy. All we are allowed to do here is complain critique

I’ve said this in the past, the earth is the only place with life we actually know of. We can speculate about life elsewhere but earth is the only confirmed source of life we should do everything to preserve life on earth and the natural forces that govern it.

But this ain’t that. This lands, to me, lands more in the “we’re staking a claim to the moon and these are the first steps in that process”

I hope I’m wrong but right now I can’t get excited about this.

ESA built the service module which keeps the crew alive, and one of the Astronauts is Canadian. This is probably the most insulting response I’ve seen yet.

This has also been in the works since 2017, through three administrations. All Trump had to so was not try to cancel them like a dumbass.

Good. Fuck off.

Neither is the military. Spending on healthcare as % of GDP is higher than many countries with universal health care.

Insurance, hospitals and honestly even a lot of doctors are against it.

Still need a reliable method to convert the power gained from solar into propulsion with enough force so that it won’t take a decade to get anywhere