Ukrainian journalist, 27, who chronicled Russian occupation dies in prison (www.bbc.com)
from jeffw@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 04:38
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MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 04:38 next collapse
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alquicksilver@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 05:13 next collapse

I fear her remains may not be returned with all of her organs.

I feel so sorry for her family, and for her, since they thought she was coming home alive.

Zoldyck@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 07:23 next collapse

She didn’t die. She was murdered.

rikudou@lemmings.world on 13 Oct 09:17 collapse

Murder kinda causes death usually.

Zoldyck@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 09:27 collapse

That’s not the point.

rikudou@lemmings.world on 13 Oct 11:37 collapse

I know what your point is, I just think it’s pointless. Does it matter whether she was murdered in prison specifically, died because of bad prison conditions, died because another inmate murdered her or any other reason?

The point is she was in prison she shouldn’t be in. And your “point” is just obnoxious.

lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 17:17 collapse

So… Let’s say your parents are murdered tomorrow. And the investigators and the news reports just say that they died suddenly on Monday, you know full well that they were actually murdered, they just ignored using the term ‘murdered’, you’d be totally okay with that?

Those 2 phrasings have the exact same meaning to you?

Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca on 13 Oct 18:08 collapse

It wouldn’t matter because they’d be dead. They wouldn’t be able to feel any which way about it

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lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 18:52 collapse

So… The scenario is about your parents. Does that make it any more clear to you?

abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us on 15 Oct 14:00 collapse

It's very clear - I as the living survivor would feel bad if my parents died in an unavoidable and unpredictable and unpreventable accident or say due to old age.

I'd feel much much differently if my parents were murdered.

We should call it murder because murder is the more accurate and descriptive term here.

andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works on 13 Oct 08:55 next collapse

I want to imagine she thought she does the right thing up intil the end.

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ABasilPlant@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 12:18 next collapse
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blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 15:55 next collapse

It’s sad that it takes pretty people dying to care more. The world is strange. RIP to her and Slava Ukraini.

RIP Alexei Navalny and who knows how many countless others too.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 13 Oct 17:55 collapse

Ha! The bad writing in this title suggests it’s about gamine dice - but singular - somehow related to occupation.

In all seriousness, one would hope that the person writing would have taken more care to properly delineate the sub-clause instead of using the American Ghost Comma. Someone has died here; and yet, still no care in writing about it.