Killing of Mexican drug cartel boss ‘El Mencho’ triggers wave of violence (www.theguardian.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 16:09
https://lemmy.world/post/43491794

Schools close and flights suspended after military raid kills Jalisco New Generation Cartel leader Nemesio Rubén Oseguera Cervantes

Whole areas of western Mexico have been all but shut down after a surge in cartel violence sparked by a military raid that killed one of the world’s most wanted drug traffickers, known as “El Mencho”.

Schools were closed in several Mexican states, and foreign governments warned their citizens to stay inside after the drug lord, whose real name is Nemesio Rubén Oseguera Cervantes, was declared dead on Sunday.

The 59-year-old cartel leader was killed during a shootout after the Mexican military attempted to capture him in a raid supported by intelligence from Washington. The US has been pushing its southern neighbour to take more aggressive action against groups trafficking fentanyl, methamphetamine and cocaine.

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Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 16:30 next collapse

Could the US be any more incompetent? Zero planning for repercussions, just kill kill kill.

Lasherz12@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 16:41 next collapse

This was the Mexican army, not US

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 16:43 next collapse

“The US has been pushing its southern neighbour to take more aggressive action”

Carmakazi@piefed.social on 23 Feb 16:48 next collapse

Acting on US intelligence.

YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 18:32 collapse

Coerced by Trump…

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 16:48 next collapse

Zero planning for repercussions

You’re viewing the backlash as a bug rather than a feature. Vance will be back on TV in a week, arguing the US needs to intervene directly.

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Feb 17:12 next collapse

I was thinking it would be much sooner than that

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 17:27 next collapse

Fair. Did not immediately think of other ways the US could abuse its power.

KneeTitts@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 17:47 collapse

Vance will be back on TV in a week, arguing the US needs to intervene directly.

This was the plan all along

hector@lemmy.today on 23 Feb 19:56 collapse

Vance is a clown, he’s got no juice, it’s the project 2025 people calling the shots.

masterspace@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 16:54 collapse

I mean, what’s your alternative competent plan for dealing with the cartels?

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 17:00 next collapse

Make peoples lived better, so most don’t want to escape them.

meco03211@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 17:05 next collapse

But how does that benefit the shareholders?

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 17:07 collapse

They get to continue living. Pretty cushy don’t ya think.

green_red_black@slrpnk.net on 23 Feb 18:07 collapse

Unless your idea of Cushy is the national razor that sound dumb.

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 18:26 collapse

That was literally the implication. They can change their ways and become a benefit to society. Or eliminated to at least cease being a burden.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 17:42 next collapse

Do you think the Mexican government isn’t already trying to do that? They clearly don’t have the resources to pull it off.

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 17:53 collapse

I wasn’t speaking specifically of the Mexican government more as a general thing. Unfortunately, this is largely out of Mexican government control. The fascist oligarchs in the United States have made the lives of people there so miserable that they need drugs to get by. There’s not much the Mexican government can do about that. As long as that problem exists, the symptoms of cartel leaders rising up to fill that need will always happen.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 18:33 collapse

Oh, in that case I agree completely - the root cause is demand in the US.

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 18:48 next collapse

Yep. I 100% feel for the Mexican government ON THAT POINT. For every kingpin they kill 1-2 will pop up. More vicious and violent than the last. And there’s literally nothing they can do. Because its a response to an external issue they can’t address.

alonsohmtz@feddit.uk on 23 Feb 20:10 collapse

the root cause is demand in the US.

The root cause is the War on Drugs.

Montagge@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 18:45 collapse

The cartels aren’t going to allow that

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 18:54 collapse

The cartels can’t. And yes they won’t. This was more that the people complaining about them and drove the attack on them. (Fascists/trump) They are the only ones that could do anything to hurt the cartels. IE make peoples lives better so they don’t seek drugs to escape them. But they don’t care about making lives better or helping anyone but themselves. And anyone appeasing them only hurts themselves.

Montagge@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 18:58 collapse

I got ya! I misunderstood!

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Feb 19:00 collapse

No worries, it was a sort of vague statement after all.

mufasio@lemmy.ml on 23 Feb 17:10 next collapse

Legalize all drugs and dismantle the CIA

alonsohmtz@feddit.uk on 23 Feb 20:11 collapse

That would solve the issue, so we won’t do it.

KneeTitts@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 17:48 next collapse

I mean, what’s your alternative competent plan for dealing with the cartels?

Cut off demand, you’ll never kill every single drug dealer… its insane to think you can do it that way

hector@lemmy.today on 23 Feb 19:56 collapse

Hugs not Drugs! /s

troyunrau@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 17:14 collapse

Instability in a neighbour is the perfect excuse for a fascist expansionist “intervention”. Ugh. Not that I like the cartels or anything. Mexico is stuck between a rock and hard place here.

sakuraba@lemmy.ml on 23 Feb 19:20 next collapse

The people are stuck, the politicians are doing great!

alonsohmtz@feddit.uk on 23 Feb 20:08 collapse

Mexico is stuck between a rock and hard place here.

What? You don’t think Mexico can stop the cartels on their own?