About 30,000 people dead or missing in Gaza: Official (aje.io)
from nekandro@lemmy.ml to world@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 2023 14:52
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girlfreddy@lemmy.ca on 29 Dec 2023 14:57 next collapse

Every day Israel continues to prove its true intentions and every day America, Canada, France and the UK show how easy it is to continue to support genocide.

crsu@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 2023 15:28 next collapse

Don’t call it a genocide it’s been here for years being ignored by your peers

girlfreddy@lemmy.ca on 29 Dec 2023 15:36 next collapse

Canada, Australia and America committed genocide on Indigenous peoples for 150+ years and it was ignored. Length of time in no way defines genocide.

forrgott@lemm.ee on 29 Dec 2023 15:55 collapse

So, keeping people from talking about your atrocities magically makes everything better? I do hope your post was a bad attempt at sarcasm, cause nothing else makes any sense.

[deleted] on 29 Dec 2023 15:45 next collapse
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SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Dec 2023 16:26 next collapse

Are you suggesting that the Palestinian people asked for this?

Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi on 29 Dec 2023 22:13 next collapse

yes

swearengen@sopuli.xyz on 30 Dec 2023 00:52 collapse

The vast majority supported the Oct 7th attack and still do months later… Did They think Israel would let it slide?

Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was “correct” given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was “incorrect”.

reuters.com/…/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-…

And saying Oct 7 attack doesn’t do it justice. Watch the videos. Read the reports. It was humanity in it’s most disgusting form:

NYT investigation: ‘Screams Without Words’: How Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence on Oct. 7

Gifted article, here’s an archive link as well.

Excerpts:

  • A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.

  • In a grainy video, you can see her, lying on her back, dress torn, legs spread, vagina exposed. Her face is burned beyond recognition and her right hand covers her eyes…Based largely on the video evidence — which was verified by The New York Times — Israeli police officials said they believed that Ms. [Gal] Abdush was raped, and she has become a symbol of the horrors visited upon Israeli women and girls during the Oct. 7 attacks.

  • The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin.

  • Sapir, a 24-year-old accountant, has become one of the Israeli police’s key witnesses. In a two-hour interview outside a cafe in southern Israel, she recounted seeing groups of heavily armed gunmen rape and kill at least five women…at 8 a.m. on Oct. 7, she was hiding under the low branches of a bushy tamarisk tree, just off Route 232, about four miles southwest of the party. She had been shot in the back…felt faint…covered herself in dry grass and lay as still as she could. About 15 meters from her hiding place she saw motorcycles, cars and trucks pulling up. She saw about 100 men, most of them dressed in military fatigues and combat boots, a few in dark sweatsuits, getting in and out of the vehicles. The men congregated along the road and passed between them assault rifles, grenades, small missiles — and badly wounded women. “It was like an assembly point.” The first victim she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back…While one terrorist raped her, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast…“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,”…the men sliced her face and then the woman fell out of view. Around the same time, she saw three other women raped and terrorists carrying the severed heads of three more women…Yura Karol, a 22-year-old security consultant, said he was hiding in the same spot, and he can be seen in one of Sapir’s photos… In an interview, Mr. Karol said he barely lifted his head to look at the road but he also described seeing a woman raped and killed

  • Raz Cohen…saw five men, wearing civilian clothes, all carrying knives and one carrying a hammer, dragging a woman across the ground. She was young, naked and screaming. “They all gather around her,” Mr. Cohen said. “She’s standing up. They start raping her. I saw the men standing in a half circle around her. One penetrates her. She screams. I still remember her voice, screams without words.” “Then one of them raises a knife,” he said, “and they just slaughtered her.” Shoam Gueta, one of Mr. Cohen’s friends and a fashion designer, said the two were hiding together in the streambed. He said he saw at least four men step out of the van and attack the woman, who ended up “between their legs.” He said that they were “talking, giggling and shouting,” and that one of them stabbed her with a knife repeatedly, “literally butchering her.” Yinon Rivlin, a member of the rave’s production team who lost two brothers in the attacks, said that after hiding from the killers, he emerged from a ditch and made his way to the parking area, east of the party,

daftwerder@lemm.ee on 30 Dec 2023 01:40 collapse

No doubt the attack on Oct 7 was horrible. But please tell us how you justify the ongoing genocide and human right violations that Israel is committing. Saying that the vast majority of innocent civilians supported it is such bullshit.

Snoozemumrik@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 2023 16:28 collapse

Those 10k+ children fucked around how?

Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi on 29 Dec 2023 22:13 collapse

yes

randon31415@lemmy.world on 29 Dec 2023 18:12 next collapse

Civilian deaths from the Iraq invasion: 220,000 out of 45.5 million = 0.5%

Civilian deaths from the Gaza invasion: 30,000 out of 778,000 = 3.8%

Iraq invasion: 9 years. Gaza invasion: 3 months.

Civilian deaths from Russian bombing of Ukraine: ~10,000 over 2 years.

Arete@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2023 06:46 collapse

The population of Iraq at the time of the invasion was ~25 million, and was spread out over a large rural area. The population of the Gaza strip is 2 million in a small urban area. Using the correct numbers, you get about 1% and 1.5%, respectively. To be honest I’m surprised the Gaza death toll is so low given the population density and sheer number of bombs dropped. With all the genocide rhetoric I would’ve thought 10%+.

randon31415@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2023 06:56 collapse

Ah, I was using Gaza city, not Gaza strip. And Iraq added 20 million people since the invasion? Wow, thought it would be less.

Arete@lemmy.world on 30 Dec 2023 07:13 collapse

To be fair to you though all of these boundaries are kind of arbitrary. Most bombing is in Gaza city, western Ukraine has been largely unaffected, etc. A better metric if we’re looking at “callous indifference to collateral damage” might be simply civilian deaths per bomb dropped, although the use of human shields in Gaza may throw that off as well.

idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org on 30 Dec 2023 07:13 collapse

It’s amazing Israel has been able to target 30,000 civilians, and not a single terrorist.

Oh wait, who reported that 30k number? Qatar-controlled Al-jazeera who also happens to have funded Hamas? Yeah - sounds like honest reporting.