Zelenskyy says US "knows what to do next" after Venezuela operation (www.pravda.com.ua)
from avidamoeba@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 06:52
https://lemmy.ca/post/58192330

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/41116482

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that the United States has provided a textbook example of how to deal with dictators in Venezuela and “knows what to do next”.

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Mihies@programming.dev on 07 Jan 07:04 next collapse

Help Putin and divide Ukraine?

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 07 Jan 07:43 next collapse

…but how do you know which putin to kidnap?

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 07 Jan 07:56 collapse

The one who has natural resources and labour he doesn’t want to relinquish for US corpos to exploit. 😶‍🌫️

Anbalsilfer@lemmy.ml on 07 Jan 08:26 next collapse

Difference between Russia and Venezuela? So many nukes. Too bad Ukraine got suckered into giving theirs up.

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 07 Jan 08:53 next collapse

Except he is bessie mates with Putin so he will do fuck all

Zerlyna@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 10:53 next collapse

Yes the US does except Trump cause he’s stupid.

perestroika@slrpnk.net on 07 Jan 11:52 next collapse

The comment is a bit poorly thought out.

It would be picking a fight with Putin on his terms, him being former KGB. He has a tendency to order poisonings - ask Kyrylo Budanov, he narrowly escaped eating heavy metals and his wife Marianna was poisoned. Doctors saved her, but she will likely need long-term treatment.

Russia also still has satellites in the sky, moles in US agencies and spies on US soil - so Putin would have a decent chance of knowing. Trump and Vance would not want to personally die in gruesome ways or lose family members.

Russia also has a tendency to detain foreign citizens (including but not limited to spies - businessmen also have a high risk) on various excuses, eventually exchanging them for Russian citizens detained abroad if they’re in favour. They know the game of kidnapping and exchanging people. They just do the kidnapping on their own soil.

If “what to do next” would be stopping to f**k with military assistance to Ukraine - to sell the tools they need, even if Biden gave tools for free - yes, I would agree, that would be logical. But Trump has demonstratively sabotaged assistance to Ukraine from day one. It’s a bit far fetched to imagine he would reform himself.

I don’t know if the Kremlin has leverage on Trump or Trump has delusions about the Kremlin. If they have a special relationship, it would be nice if it broke down over Venezuela, but I don’t see it happening - I see Trump threatening Greenland, Colombia, Mexico and Cuba.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 07 Jan 17:30 collapse

All that makes sense. The whole thing is a bit ironic because Putin tried to do to Zelensky what Trump did to Maduro for similar reasons. Now Zelensky is like - do this to Putin. Even though it could easily be him who gets the treatment, if Putin and Trump agree on it.

treadful@lemmy.zip on 08 Jan 03:23 collapse

It would be pretty funny.