Jews longing for national liberation are Nazis?

As a Jew with Zionist family in Israel and in the States, related to Holocaust survivors and victims, and student of other Holocaust survivors, I can confirm that you’re correct.

During the early days of the Palestinian genocide, I overheard the following conversation between two old men at my mom’s synagogue:

M1: They say that Israeli forces are using Nazi tactics in Palestine. Do you think that’s true? What do you think about that?
M2: It’s been a very long time since the Holocaust and there has been a lot of healing. I think it’s time to admit that Hitler may have had some good ideas.
M1: Hmmm… I wouldn’t go that far, but maybe it’s okay to learn a thing or two from the Nazis… From your enemies.

These men also cry that we’re victims of the most violence and that our tactics are just to prevent another Holocaust. But I thought “tHeRe has beEn a LoT oF heALiNG.”

You basically lose any moral high ground by calling anyone Hitler/Nazi.

Such a shit comparison. If Nazis were as benign as Zionists there wouldn’t have been a world war 2. No one would have given a fuck.

If you want to criticize effectively, be more precise.

Exactly. Zionists believe they’re entitled to Israel just like Nazis believe “Aryans” were entitled to the Rhineland.

Supporting either should be grounds for imprisonment.

There never were that many of those people. Kamala lost this one entirely on her own, with a lackluster platform and campaign. Not having an open primary of course didn’t help, either. Democrats suck right now, I’m sorry to say. Of course that’s going to depress turnout.

And don’t point fingers at me, I did what I could. But you should know shaming people into voting for your party has never ever worked.

We’ve always told you they are both the same, both shit. Just one is a lot worse. Harm reduction is the name of the game.

Say the line, Bart! OOPS, I initially misread your post, I thought you were yelling at people who voted for neither Harris nor Trump as a principled anti-Israel position, not people who voted for Trump for supposedly being the lesser pro-Israel candidate. Obviously I didn’t vote for Trump, and obviously fuck Trump and his supporters and voters.

Gonna leave the quote tho because it’s always One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This-o-clock.

But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

The excuse is the same: ‘i had no choice lolololollll’

The previous administration who kamala harris was the vice president of allowed and helped israel fascist government to perpetrate a genocide where thousand kids got murdered are still getting murdered to this day

lemmy.ml/post/42477224

reuters.com/…/israel-military-reported-accept-dea…

Israel military recently confirmed the death tool since 2023 at 70.000 casualties.

I doubt many people here on lemmy voted for trump, these who didn’t vote red or blue probably voted for third parties or did something more useful than voting to try to stop the genocide.

Why don’t democrats nominate candidates that actually care about the working class instead of lesser evil establishment puppets?

The problem is Humanity itself. The Russians did a revolution and ended up with people like Beria in power again.

Since we stopped living in small groups and stopped being able to check what each person is doing, this kind of depravity and evil has become more common, as psychopaths almost all cluster at the top. The difference between Trump and Ted Bundy is that one had millions in the bank and a network of contacts of people who had even more money.

The Israeli group this article is about, is based in Russia

No kompromat needed for Elon, he just reads the general vibe of the powerful and then parrots it in an edgy package for personal financial gain.