As opposed to all the other times the US removed a sovereign foreign leader? I can name more than half a dozen off the top of my head and I know there’s way fucking more than that that I’d have to look up to remember. Same as it ever was.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone
on 05 Jan 03:18
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yeah, I don’t know where all these experts have been for the last 50 to 70? years of “rule based order”, when they say rule based order do they mean the US makes the rules and everyone else plays along? in that case how is this any different
We literally did the same thing to Manuel Noriega in the 80s. But at least he was a legit narco kingpin.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 13:34
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Yup. I immediately thought of Libya when it happened, but I’m a bernie bro and most of the people I discuss politics with still deify Barack Obama, so they hadn’t considered that.
Small(er) countries have an interest in international law. Only large ones who can’t imagine themselves ever being the powerless ones want to promote lawlessness.
But in this case, it is funny, because not long ago Maduro was threatening to invade Guyana…I guess there is always a bigger dictator…
massive_bereavement@fedia.io
on 05 Jan 05:15
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If this is how it has to be then, oh Bibi, let's hope you get on the wrong plane.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 11:20
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I honestly think that this was a favor Trump did for Putin. Set the precedent that you can just kidnap leaders. Now Russia makes an attempt to capture Zelensky and no one bats an eye.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 13:47
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It also isn’t at the same time because flooding the market with Venezuelan crude and taking over a country that was allied to Putin doesn’t help him much at all.
This opinion is, I think, incorrect. Let me explain.
If any authoritarian power wanted to do such a thing, they would have done it, or tried to.
Thing is, authoritarian powers can’t really do that because in front of them are democracies usually.
China could capture Ching-Te. But even if they did, what now? Taiwan wouldn’t change much and may become even more anti-Chinese.
And even if harming the opposing dirigent might help those authoritarian powers, that doesn’t make it more easy to do. Russia tried multiple times to kill zelensky.
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Fuck every country that does not condemn him
Most that nordic countries will do is to be disappointed.
Honestly go to war with the USA.
As opposed to all the other times the US removed a sovereign foreign leader? I can name more than half a dozen off the top of my head and I know there’s way fucking more than that that I’d have to look up to remember. Same as it ever was.
yeah, I don’t know where all these experts have been for the last 50 to 70? years of “rule based order”, when they say rule based order do they mean the US makes the rules and everyone else plays along? in that case how is this any different
We literally did the same thing to Manuel Noriega in the 80s. But at least he was a legit narco kingpin.
Yup. I immediately thought of Libya when it happened, but I’m a bernie bro and most of the people I discuss politics with still deify Barack Obama, so they hadn’t considered that.
Western Journalism in a nutshell.
Forget or whitewash western history of atrocities, exaggerate others.
Obviously. Thanks donny.
No no, it HAS. why should anyone even pretend to obey international law?
Small(er) countries have an interest in international law. Only large ones who can’t imagine themselves ever being the powerless ones want to promote lawlessness.
But in this case, it is funny, because not long ago Maduro was threatening to invade Guyana…I guess there is always a bigger dictator…
If this is how it has to be then, oh Bibi, let's hope you get on the wrong plane.
Will, not could.
I honestly think that this was a favor Trump did for Putin. Set the precedent that you can just kidnap leaders. Now Russia makes an attempt to capture Zelensky and no one bats an eye.
It also isn’t at the same time because flooding the market with Venezuelan crude and taking over a country that was allied to Putin doesn’t help him much at all.
They tried to assassinate him multiple times, they just failed.
Kidnapping world leaders is now the new norm.
What happens if somehow the trump clan gets kidnapped while golfing?
Edit: I feel like I should point out that I am in no way suggesting or encouraging anyone to try this. I’m just genuinely curious.
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This opinion is, I think, incorrect. Let me explain.
If any authoritarian power wanted to do such a thing, they would have done it, or tried to.
Thing is, authoritarian powers can’t really do that because in front of them are democracies usually.
China could capture Ching-Te. But even if they did, what now? Taiwan wouldn’t change much and may become even more anti-Chinese.
And even if harming the opposing dirigent might help those authoritarian powers, that doesn’t make it more easy to do. Russia tried multiple times to kill zelensky.