Capitalism failing on all 45 indicators of climate progress (www.wsws.org)
from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 15:40
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/57159222

The “State of Climate Action 2025” report from the World Resources Institute found that the world’s governments are failing on all 45 indicators of progress towards limiting global heating to 1.5 degrees. Of these, 29 indicators are “well off track”, meaning at least a twofold and for most a fourfold acceleration of progress is needed to meet end-of-decade targets.

Five indicators—the carbon intensity of steel production, the share of kilometres travelled by passenger cars, mangrove loss, share of food production lost, and public fossil fuel finance—are heading in the wrong direction.

There is not even enough data to analyse the trend for the remaining five: the rate of retrofitting buildings, the share of new buildings which are zero-carbon, peatland degradation, peatland restoration and food waste.

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DarkCloud@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 16:02 next collapse

Progress in general.

It’s fair to say Capitaliat hegemony and attempts to constrain all other human values is detrimental to quality of life, society, and is a risk to our species as a whole.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 07 Nov 16:29 collapse

Absolutely. I read the headline and thought: it fails in every way.

tanisnikana@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 16:06 next collapse

But! Imaginary number go up! Line go up!

orioler25@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 16:18 next collapse

We really have to start talking about the reality that capitalists will never concede or negotiate. The more real this becomes, the more the privleged people will convince themselves that it is too late to change and therefore it is a fight for survival. Settler-colonialism and imperialism are are very good at generating rationalities for brutal violence and genocidal narratives have emerged from far less dire circumstances. You think it’s a coincidence that doomer narratives appeared in the metropole once the effects of climate change became undeniable?

Climate change mitigation is a death threat to capitalism. There is no world where they coexist as a capitalist system will never accept the material constraints of our world and will seek to dominate any alternative in its imperative for infinite growth. Liberals will always choose a dead world over a living one because their entire way of life needs to construct the world as an object to extract from. When they lie and say they want change, they hope that it will buy them enough time for the genocide to be acceptable in metropole.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 07 Nov 19:26 collapse

Wait, what? Liberals are the capitalists now? Or is it that Liberals aren't doing anything/enough to reign in the capitalists?

orioler25@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 20:13 next collapse

What exactly do you think liberalism is?

palordrolap@fedia.io on 07 Nov 20:26 collapse

The belief that no-one is above anyone else and that everyone should be treated equally. The doesn't quite match with the dictionary definition, I grant you (I looked it up afterwards), but nonetheless I think I was nearer the mark than "capitalist = liberal".

Capitalists tend to think of themselves as more deserving than others which would seem to be at odds with that supposed equivalence.

And there's that the biggest capitalist booms of recent years have been driven by illiberal politics, by and large. Reagan wasn't a liberal. Thatcher wasn't. Today's billionaires are stumbling over themselves to swear fealty to distinctly non-liberal political parties, in power or not.

orioler25@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 22:31 collapse

Okay, what you’re misunderstanding is that what a political or social philosophy is differs from how it is colloquially referred to. It does not mean, “a person who values people” and if you knew the history of this brutal system you’d see just how insidious such an assertion is. Yes, “liberal” is an abused term in NA as it benefits liberalism (yes, capitalism is liberalism and vice versa) through the occlusion of any alternative way to understand the world. When they say that liberals are radical socialists, they are purposefully misrepresenting what socialism and social justice is. They are not talking about liberalism when they use it that way. Liberalism is fundamentally an individualist way to understand the world that emerged through the processes of European imperialism and settler-colonialism after the sixteenth century (but we really consider it recognizable once they start talking about republics and individual liberties at the turn of the nineteenth century. You’ll see why in a moment). Private property is at the center of its way of organizing and the value of individual human bodies (not beings) is built not despite of that but to facilitate it. Racism, sexism, and heteronormativity are all systemic constructions that emerged to devalue human bodies relative to their position in the hierarchy and consequently the form of exploitation they experienced in the service of white-settler-colonial reproduction. (i.e. Slavery preexisted chattel slavery and racialization. Chattel slavery was made possible through the naturalization of an othered group as deserving of generational forced labour, and so racialization emerged as a means of rationalizing that violence).

“Capitalism” refers to a social order wherein capital is the primary organizing principle in society, which is to say individual pursuit of capital. It is described economically by its imperatives of profit maximization and infinite growth, both hallmarks of colonial perceptions of land and bodies as commodities. It is the economic system that settler-colonial countries grew into because it is already consistent with how they viewed the world.

Liberalism’s appropriation of “progress” and civil rights (“equality”) is how this social order effectively responded to challenge of the hierarchy. The narrative that people “earn” their rights through civil disobedience presupposes that what we imagine to be rights is in fact an absolute truth that we either restrict or permit access to. Conveniently, those rights are legally constructed in terms of pursuit of capital and private property as a metric of human fulfillment. The black Civil Rights movements of the mid-twentieth century is imagined to end when the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1968, which intentionally secures the state’s authority over the determination of inequality and redirects challenges to racism into the legal framework of the state. When Black Liberationist militant groups persisted, you get the War on Drugs and the Prison Industrial Complex (which is itself enabled through the legal end of slavery that still permitted forced labour of prisoners). There are many other examples of how this works, but slavery and racism tend to be very clear demonstrations. Message me if you want a reading list.

What you have done here is made the understandable mistake of assuming how the words are used is exactly what they mean, and yes language is fluid which is why they push these misuses in the first place. Make no mistake though, these are not distinct ways of organizing society, they are cooperative in their endeavour to reduce the living world to property. When you see this, liberal inaction at climate change is not only comprehensible, but expected.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 07 Nov 23:55 collapse

If what you're saying is true, it doesn't explain why the greatest increase in capitalism has historically occurred under governments that were not liberal (by the dictionary definition. Or my simplistic one.)

Unless, that is, that what you're saying is that all the pro-capitalist governments were liberal by your definition (or some redefinition to which you and certain others believe is, or should be, correct). That, I think, is a ridiculous way to go about things, and smacks of trying to steal the word or besmirch people who would otherwise use that word to describe themselves.

In short, I think you're being disingenuous.

orioler25@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 02:20 next collapse

Compadre, I don’t know how you could think someone would spend that much time trying to explain something to you and be completely faking.

Yes, that is what it is. It is not my definition, it’s how the people who study these topics professionally use the terms. You can take your time to live with it.

athatet@lemmy.zip on 08 Nov 05:15 collapse

You: what does this word mean?

Them: five paragraphs of explanation.

You: I dunno… seems fishy.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 08 Nov 11:03 collapse

Me: The Earth is round.

Them: Several seemingly legitimate paragraphs, patiently explaining that it's flat.

Me: ...

Someone else brought up the term "neoliberal" and I might have gone along with that. A prefix can do a lot of heavy lifting in allowing the rest of a word to mean something else entirely, even opposing the original meaning.

What I'm gathering is that economists have redefined the original word, and what I think of as liberal, they call progressive.

athatet@lemmy.zip on 08 Nov 11:06 next collapse

Liberals have never been progressive.

orioler25@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 14:04 collapse

My guy, you’re the anti-intellectual person here. I’ve been nice and here you are getting to extreme levels of arrogance.

Could you tell us all how you learned about what these words mean? Have you gone to university for it? Are there any professional educators you follow that offer free courses or lessons? Could you name any books you’ve learned from? You mentioned looking it up earlier, where?

palordrolap@fedia.io on 08 Nov 14:19 collapse

Apparently I've misunderstood the word liberal every time it's been used across my life in the same way that people think that "epitome" is pronounced "ep-i-toam" because they've only ever read it.

When I looked up liberal, one of the places I looked was https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/liberal but I did not click through to liberalism, which might have taught me a thing or two.

But please note the bit at the bottom of the link where the meaning has recently split into meaning "leftist" which is a lot closer to what I thought it meant... so apparently it hasn't been just me getting it wrong, but a significant portion of the English-speaking world.

orioler25@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 14:36 collapse

Did you seriously not read my explanation and then called it disingenuous? That’s in there.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 08 Nov 14:42 next collapse

Perhaps I should reword one of my previous comments:

Me: The Earth is flat.

Them: Several paragraphs patiently explaining that it's round.

Me: ...

Sensible things look a lot like lies when you're stood on your head.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 08 Nov 14:43 collapse

Edit: This response is not showing up where I want it to. I can't tell whether my stupidity is preventing me from replying in the right place or this interface is suddenly acting screwy. @orioler25

Perhaps I should reword one of my previous comments:

Me: The Earth is flat.

Them (You): Several paragraphs patiently explaining that it's round.

Me: ...

Sensible things look a lot like lies when you're stood on your head.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 07 Nov 20:39 next collapse

Wait, what? Liberals are the capitalists now?

Now and since around the 18th Century. Private ownership of property and market economies are key liberal tenets.

BanMe@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 04:50 collapse

If you’ve ever heard of “neoliberals,” they’re not talking about Democrats, they’re talking about an economic philosophy, they’re “neo” liberals because now instead of just wanting capitalism on the national scale, they want to see it globally, which is what has happened in the past decades. China being the world’s factory, for instance, is a neoliberal greatest hit. Offload the negativities (like shitty life for labor, polluted land and water, etc) and import the positives, while netting a handy profit, what’s not to love.

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 07 Nov 16:59 next collapse

How are the non-capitalist societies doing in this front? I don't mean uncontacted indigenous tribes that are too small to make a difference. I mean large nations of millions of people that function with non-capitalist economies.

If we narrow down to only the countries who have successfully implemented democratically controlled production, what is their carbon footprint like? Then we can extrapolate from those model nations to determine how it would impact the globe as a whole.

LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net on 07 Nov 18:24 next collapse

There aren’t any.

arin@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 19:55 next collapse

Economy is a mostly capitalistic term, at least in the most commonly used calculations, it doesn’t factor in the well-being of citizens.

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 07 Nov 22:34 collapse

I amend my request to include countries which don't recognize the term "economy" as well.

Grass@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 04:31 collapse

do any truly exist?

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 08 Nov 14:51 collapse

No. But the Socialist Equality Party ensures you that when they get their chance, it's going to work this time.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social on 07 Nov 18:12 next collapse

Succeeding*

Part4@infosec.pub on 07 Nov 19:55 next collapse

2.8 my arse.

We are comprehensively losing the battle for 3c@2100 anthropogenic climate change, and so looking warily toward 4c after inevitable feedbacks.

The good news is those born then won’t know a better world. The bad news is it won’t necessarily end at 4c so they still might experience the mourning many of us are and already have gone through.

Aneb@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 14:23 collapse

Scary not to remember a time not marred by industrial revolution. Technically there was a mini cold era that sprung up in the 70s and lasted a while but the bubble broke.

thatradomguy@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 01:20 next collapse

Hey, where’s that funny guy that posted something here saying how capitalism is the best thing we can do for the human race and nothing else can do better? Please show this to him. lmao

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 05:27 next collapse

Tragedy of the commons.

killeronthecorner@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 11:51 collapse

Tragedy for the commoners

Imagine not having a bunker in new Zealand. Pleb

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 08 Nov 12:35 next collapse

Let’s extend that. Capitalism failing on a whole helluva lot more indicators than just climate change. The people in charge said they would look into it and get back to us, so it should be okay. /s

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 08 Nov 13:16 collapse

You say that decades of furiously funnelling public money to the private sector and corporations doesn’t provide jobs, housing, food, clean environment, healthcare, and security for all?? Time for a rev.