Democratic leaders are failing the Mahmoud Khalil test - Trump is pushing a new McCarthyism. But Democrats helped get us here.
(www.msnbc.com)
from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 15 Mar 2025 14:44
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40037252
from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 15 Mar 2025 14:44
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40037252
President Donald Trump’s attempt to deport pro-Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil marks one of Trump’s most egregious assaults on democratic liberties since taking office. Yet too many Democrats, particularly in party leadership, are responding to Trump in the most mealymouthed way possible. But this is a problem of Democrats’ own making: Their trepidation stems from their own history of repressing speech critical of Israel — and now we’re all at risk of paying the price for it.
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If only a large amount of dem voters had tried to warn people that Israel weren’t our friends before it was too late…
How many people are still happy we didn’t hold Biden accountable when we could for violating US and international law to provide arms that would be used in a genocide?
If we can’t protest when it’s a Dem doing it because it makes them look bad to voters, and we can’t protest when it’s a Republican because this will happen…
How are we supposed to address the fact that Israel bought the leaders of both political parties long ago?
The only way we can fix the country is fixing our own party first, and one of the big steps is voting out anyone that takes AIPAC money.
Sadly, I don’t have your faith that the system will allow us to fix it. It’s not our system, it never was, and the people in power have no reason to abolish themselves and put democracy in charge.
There is no “fixing it”, the real question is how we’ll navigate the interesting times ahead.
Neoliberals are pussies and we got a solid head of the DNC that won’t blindly back incumbents and understands the Victory Funds nonsense is why Republicans have the House.
The fight over the party happened like a month ago, we won bro.
You’re not hearing about it from mainstream news, because it’s all owned by conservative billionaires.
This is the best shit we’ve had to fix the party in 30 years. Don’t throw it away because you’re a pessimist, we’ll still need all the help we can get to do it.
I’ve been burned by too many promises like that to get my hopes up for a political party, but I’ll hear about it if they start acting like they want my support.
The fact that they haven’t started kicking out DINOs and corporate financiers bodes ill for the odds that we’ll see a face-turn.
Cautiously going to say I’ll take your word for it but I’m not putting my faith in anything except my own abilities to agitate, organize, and disrupt govt functions. If there were a mechanism for creating real change able to be used by congress we wouldn’t be allowed to vote. System’s working perfectly. It lasted long enough to let a despot and his cronies infect every aspect of the system, just to tear it down and replace it with the open face nazi government the oligarchs have been demanding since 1865.
if it’s genociders vs terrorists which side is your party going to support?
It’s not really a party problem specifically - they’re more of a symptom. In reality, the FPTP winner-takes-all (with questionable SCOTUS and congression checks and balances), high risk, expensive break down then rebuild then break down then rebuild full pendulum swing incentivizes these mechanisms that result in no one winning, and a generation of setbacks every time you take a step forward.
In fairness, Trump is trying to “fix” this - you just may not agree that an authoritarian corporatocracy with him as Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic is the right solution (and, frankly, most wouldn’t).
Democrats are the greater evil in this case, Republicans are openly vocal in their intents so we know what to expect from them. Democrats vocally oppose Republican actions, but end up supporting them and throwing their hands up claiming they were defenseless. Theyve turbo changed their ratchet effect the last several years.
Was there another option?
Democrats will get nothing but grief. leftists tried to warn Democrats for decades that this is who their party is, and now that they’re in a downward spiral, they want to keep punching left at the people that told them that their party is shit. This is truly a we told you so moment.
You desired this outcome. And I hope it affects you and people you love.
Democrats refusing to listen gave us this outcome, refusing to see biden’s deficiencies and demanding a primary gave us this outcome. Accepting genocide as the ‘lesser evil’ gave us this outcome. Their selective outrage and refusing to hold their own people to the same standards they hold Republicans gave us this outcome. Refuse to accept responsibility for their failures gave us this outcome.
You got what you asked for: Trump. And, you are pleased with ever one of his actions. Now, there will be even more genocide that before! Good job!!!
Liberals gave us Trump both times and still won’t learn from their mistakes in 2028. Liberal ‘lesser evil’ gave us incremental fascism
I mean you’re not wrong, but what options were we presented with? It was always democrats or republicans for decades. The third party was always going to lose. What we needed was Bernie to win a primary, but I think we all know that was never going to be allowed.
Now we are going down the authoritarian government road China and Russia has been on for decades. Sounds like a shitty life for everyone but the rich.
Aside: My guess is Amazon announcing that Alexa would be monitoring all audio is just the start of the always-on monitoring China has with cameras in homes. I bet Trump will demand that everyone buy one, lol.
It seemed like you know very little about China.
I know plenty. It’s very public information. Also, my best friend’s wife is from China and they aren’t holding back the info. So, I’ll believe them over you any day.
Sure you do
At least China is being honest about why.
There are no government installed cameras in Chinese homes. This is US sinophobia propaganda
This is directly from a Chinese immigrant, so, I believe them over you. You’re just a paid actor, they’re willing to talk.
How would you know?
Ohh, I don’t know, maybe from the Chinese and American people that I actually know in living in China.
Are they your Internet friends while you live in the US? That makes you an expert, right?
They are friends that I met in China while I visited China, that I’ve visited several times.
Why don’t you move there if you hate your own country so much?
Spoken like a true right winger. There’s a reason we say scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
Maybe in your made up fantasy world.
Grow up.
And like a typical liberal, they love to infantalize those they disagree with.
Greater evil? One is being evil and the other is overly pragmatic.
Greater evil. Democrats are not pragmatic. They are enablers of right wing fascism and their ratchet effect ensures that it never slips back to something more progressive.
Really? Intent matters?? Bull.
If you ever opened your eyes and examined results, well…you might have something useful to say. Probably not, but maybe.
If you’ve read American history books, there is absolutely nothing new about this.
But that’s also a reason to be optimistic. It’s happened before and it didn’t last.
If it was good old trying to weed out the commies McCarthyism, I’d be all down for it. Now I ain’t because it ain’t communism that’s the enemy.
I can’t imagine you’ve read much about McCarthyism because it didn’t take long for it to be many things that aren’t communism. Labour unions and homosexuality were just a couple things that could get you on their radar, and merely being brought before a committee could get you fired. House Un-American Activities Committee sounds more like their job description and not what they were trying to stamp out.
I swear, Lemmy is EXACTLY like Reddit…one sided in every way…
Reality has a known liberal bias.
Any time you have a group of people who can’t be criticized because of their protected status, members of that group will abuse it.