Trump demands France ‘free Marine Le Pen’ (www.telegraph.co.uk)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 10:58
https://lemmy.world/post/27772921

Summary

Donald Trump condemned France’s conviction of far-right leader Marine Le Pen, calling her four-year sentence and five-year political ban a “witch hunt” and likening it to his own legal battles.

Le Pen was found guilty of embezzling EU funds and plans to appeal.

Trump claimed the charges were politically motivated, calling them a “bookkeeping error” and urging France to “FREE MARINE LE PEN!”

He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents. Le Pen’s National Rally party was fined $2 million.

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dotslashme@infosec.pub on 04 Apr 2025 11:07 next collapse

Ha, go fuck yourself cheeto (France probably).

ptz@dubvee.org on 04 Apr 2025 11:55 collapse

Not just France. Saying that in the US, too.

nulluser@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 11:13 next collapse

He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents.

Every accusation is an admission.

Litebit@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 11:27 next collapse

I rather legal system than out the window system.

zephorah@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 11:45 next collapse

What is the expulsion of students for legal protest if not that?

myrmidex@slrpnk.net on 04 Apr 2025 12:07 next collapse

Ah yes, that left-wing government with a banker president. I guess everything is regarded as left by Trump.

NABDad@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 12:37 collapse

Well, if you’re far enough to the right, everything is to your left.

Frozengyro@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 13:27 collapse

Anything he disagrees with is ‘the left’

Tryenjer@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 13:43 collapse

Just wait until he starts to call anything that disagrees with Putin and him non-human.

Frozengyro@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 18:52 next collapse

Certainly he’s done that by now?

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 06:36 collapse

he will use putins buzzwords

rammer@sopuli.xyz on 05 Apr 2025 07:56 collapse

He already does.

mat@jlai.lu on 04 Apr 2025 12:21 next collapse

Macron left wing ? Best joke I heard in a long time XD As i understood she got immediate ineligibility because she claimed being innocent despite all the proofs showing she was the main administrator of this system of embezzlement (also, she advocated for years the use of ineligibility for politics accused of something during their mandate)

skvlp@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 13:10 next collapse

Projecting, as they always do

VeryInterestingTable@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 13:24 collapse

Also I’m pretty sure actual French Left-wing are not happy and do not like the precedent it sets. So pretty much the only party that is happy this happenned is the conservatives, but he is not going to say that is he?

nulluser@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 15:59 collapse

Conservatives are happy what happened? Nothing has happened other than the orange turd making ridiculous demands.

VeryInterestingTable@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 16:44 collapse

French conservatives are fairly happy Lepen got banned yes.

sirico@feddit.uk on 04 Apr 2025 11:16 next collapse

It’s just a bit of embezzlement

Mothra@mander.xyz on 04 Apr 2025 11:56 collapse

Just some pocket change, no biggie c’mon

MelastSB@sh.itjust.works on 04 Apr 2025 11:30 next collapse

Why would Trump be helping a Putin pawn? I have absolutely no idea…

datendefekt@feddit.org on 04 Apr 2025 11:30 next collapse

How unsurprising and tiring. It’s always the same.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 11:36 next collapse

Yes Trump we know you love fascism, and that it’s easier to establish fascist systems when laws are set aside.
Now would you kindly fuck off, and preferably go shoot yourself.

BOYCOTT USA NOW!!

xc2215x@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 12:06 next collapse

Hopefully France does not.

mumblerfish@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 14:00 collapse

Hopefully France cannot. The legal system should be independent to not be even able to cave to political pressure like this.

wirebeads@lemmy.ca on 04 Apr 2025 12:18 next collapse

Trump is a cunt. Sorry that’s disrespectful.

President Trump is a cunt.

InverseParallax@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 12:22 collapse

Trump lacks the warmth and depth.

Ziggurat@jlai.lu on 04 Apr 2025 12:19 next collapse

She won’t see an actual jail unless she seriously fuck-up, most of the sentence is suspended and as the remaining time is under two years she has the right to request house arrest or any other alternative sentence.

So the remaining sentence is that she can’t run at next presidential election (provided that she doesn’t get something else in appeal before the election).

Obvious reminder that if you or I would have stole 4 millions Euro we would see an actual jail.

kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Apr 2025 12:20 next collapse

He “demands”, how cute…

ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 12:35 next collapse

He keeps calling on France to do stuff when France is the country least likely to do said stuff.

MyOpinion@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 13:07 next collapse

Hell no. Don’t let that right wing criminal free. We should have thrown our Orange Turd into jail.

boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 13:33 next collapse

Big mad at functioning countries who can hold criminals accountable.

rustydrd@sh.itjust.works on 04 Apr 2025 13:56 next collapse

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BassTurd@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 14:22 next collapse

Uh, le fuck off.

Freshparsnip@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 14:40 next collapse

I guess he realizes he would be in the same boat as her if America had a functional legal system. Or maybe I’m giving him too much credit, thinking he has the self-awareness to compare his situation to hers.

Freshparsnip@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 14:44 next collapse

Since America has now set a precedent for letting criminals get away with shit if they run for office, I wanna see Luigi Mangione run for congress

gamer@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 15:11 next collapse

He just needs to start wearing a MAGA hat at his court appearances.

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 17:15 next collapse

Prez. Luigi for Prez. At least he’s actually done something for the people.

Freshparsnip@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 18:23 collapse

He’s not old enough to run for president

sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech on 04 Apr 2025 18:37 next collapse

Trump is a felon, Edward Rafael Cruz was born in Canada, and half of our Congresspeople are dementia patients. Who gives a fuck about the requirements at this point.

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 20:32 next collapse

None of those are legal barriers. Being under 35 is.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 04:49 collapse

Waging an insurrection is also a legal barrier. Does article 2 of the US constitution self execute? No? Then it can’t be enforced, just like amendment 14, section 3.

Freshparsnip@lemm.ee on 04 Apr 2025 20:37 collapse

Unfortunately, there is no constitutional requirement that says the president can’t be a felon or have dementia

BenjiRenji@feddit.org on 05 Apr 2025 05:35 collapse

There is one that you can’t be part of an insurrection and that didn’t matter either.

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 19:27 next collapse

I’ve observed that such laws are of zero consequence.

kreskin@lemmy.world on 06 Apr 2025 09:11 collapse

Nobody really cares about laws anymore, so lets just ignore that one.

Karjalan@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 02:20 collapse

Can you imagine if he turns “full on maga”, sings trumps praises, claims woke mind virus made him do it. Trump Pardons him and invites him to the white house. He 2 for 1s Trump and musk

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 03:49 next collapse

Perfection

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 04:44 collapse

Luigi wouldn’t lose any votes if he gunned someone down on avenue of the americas

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 14:51 next collapse

On behalf of France to Trump:

Va te faire foutre.

Obi@sopuli.xyz on 04 Apr 2025 18:03 collapse

I think for this one we can dust off one of my old favourites: “va te faire enculer à sec avec du gravier”.

SirMaple__@lemmy.ca on 04 Apr 2025 18:56 next collapse

Toton.

x00z@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 19:04 next collapse

How is he aware of her bookkeeping?

Was he doing it?

I wouldn’t be surprised.

loutr@sh.itjust.works on 04 Apr 2025 19:15 collapse

It’s just not a bookkeeping error, there are internal emails where they state that they wouldn’t be able to keep the lights on without paying their staff with our taxes.

TripDawkins@lemmy.studio on 04 Apr 2025 19:50 collapse

Source?

loutr@sh.itjust.works on 04 Apr 2025 20:19 collapse

Here you go. My translation of the email :

During the upcoming years we will only make it if we make substantial savings thanks to the European parliament, and if we manage to get additional subsidies.

x00z@lemmy.world on 04 Apr 2025 20:33 collapse

Well I knew it wasn’t a bookkeeping error. I believe the opposite of what the orange man says by default.

But I’m not aware about the actual fraud. They asked for more money when they already had enough money? The article you linked might translate wrong but they seem to be dismissing that email as proof.

loutr@sh.itjust.works on 04 Apr 2025 20:49 collapse

Well yeah, “they” being the VP of the FN :)

oliver@lemmy.midgardmates.com on 05 Apr 2025 04:29 next collapse

In the Orange Goblin‘s world, why should criminals be prosecuted or sentenced instead of being pardoned? He should better deal with the mess he is creating at home and manage his own affairs.

svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Apr 2025 08:53 collapse

Wilhoit’s law.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

Wanpieserino@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 05:16 next collapse

I mean, 3 million euros is literal peanuts. Do be aware that this is a politically charged witch hunt.

One that fortifies the EU and weakens Russia.

I’m all for that

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Mubelotix@jlai.lu on 05 Apr 2025 09:01 collapse

4 million euros is not peanuts when your population is 69 million

Wanpieserino@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 09:26 collapse

For a period of 12 years. Where the country generated a GDP of 32 trillion euros.

That’s 0,0000125%.

The hospital I work at requires this amount of money monthly to pay us wagies, excluding the doctors. We’re like 1300 employees.

The 200 doctors earn as much as we 1300 employees.

I’m not saying it wasn’t a misallocated fund, but the sheer amount is laughable.

A drip in the bucket.

The fact that she misallocated it, shows lack of integrity, and the amount is enough for us to call her out on it.

We punish her mistakes. But the amount is nothing in the big picture.

Mubelotix@jlai.lu on 05 Apr 2025 09:32 next collapse

I get your point and she was fined a fair amount, in consideration of all this. It is important to remember though that the ineligibility isn’t a punishment, it’s a preventive measure so that she doesn’t steals more than she did

ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk on 05 Apr 2025 11:42 collapse

I was recently charged 300 quid for a balls up by the tax man. I don’t think she’s been fined nearly enough.

Wanpieserino@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 12:05 collapse

Oh for sure, guillotine her for all I care. But french folks like her 🤷🏻‍♂️ my french buddy voted for her instead of Macron.

Personally I’d vote for Macron but I’m not french. If we could vote as EU citizens, I would vote for Macron

Renohren@lemmy.today on 06 Apr 2025 09:40 collapse

EU citizens cannot vote in French presidential or parliamentary elections (They can in mayoral and EU elections though). But I get what you meant.

Wanpieserino@lemm.ee on 06 Apr 2025 10:01 collapse

I can only vote on which Belgian I want to represent me in the EU as far as I’m aware

Renohren@lemmy.today on 06 Apr 2025 16:18 collapse

Different countries give different rights for their EU residents. The required minimum is EU parliament vote, but countries may or may not extend it to other elections. The participation to local election votes is quite recent in France (about 10 years). I don’t see how we’ll make them vote in more elections though without a change in the constitution (the blocking words are usually “representative of the nation” or “national electorate”, they clearly ban foreign votes, even if they our our most trusted friends.

Vari@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 05:22 next collapse

Everything this idiot does, I look at through the eyes of the kremlin. That makes it make sense.

rammer@sopuli.xyz on 05 Apr 2025 07:52 collapse

Trump = Krasnov

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 06:35 next collapse

trump must vouch for Le penne because she is also a russian asset, and putin will be disappointed of he doesnt.

El_Azulito@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 06:54 next collapse

He so goddamn embarrassing.

tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml on 05 Apr 2025 07:20 next collapse

He and allies like Elon Musk argue left-wing governments use the legal system to silence opponents

That is a fine mental gymnastic there.

I hope I’m not erring on the side of over-simplifying reality to make it abide to my limited mental capabilities to comprehend it, but more likely it is them, “He and allies like Elon Musk”, who by doing what they normally do are using the legal system to silence themselves.

Rule of law 101

uhmbah@lemmy.ca on 05 Apr 2025 08:12 next collapse

“fine mental gymnastics”!?!?

There’s a few American law firms that need to be listed here, just for starters.

‘Fine’, my ass

Aux@feddit.uk on 05 Apr 2025 08:21 next collapse

What’s funny is that the French government is not “left-wing”.

Chipili@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 08:52 collapse

By comparison with MAGA they are.

Aux@feddit.uk on 05 Apr 2025 09:04 next collapse

By comparison with US in general Europe is living in communist utopia :)

Charlxmagne@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 13:19 collapse

In comparison with the US democrats they are.

Charlxmagne@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 13:23 collapse

They’re arguing that as if they’re not doing that exact thing themselves, as if they ain’t silencing their critics. Worst part is he’s disguising himself as a libertarian and someone who’s pro free-speech, when his ideas of libertarianism only extend to his govt. and cronies and his ideas of freedom of speech extend to his own views and his own supporters. He’s using the guise of being censored himself to censor literally anyone who opposes him.

dwzap@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 08:28 next collapse

French here. Donald, take care of your burning house before you step in ours.

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 05 Apr 2025 09:40 collapse

He’s being ordered by Putin on his behalf, le penne is putins agent

Amberskin@europe.pub on 05 Apr 2025 08:31 next collapse

Please offer her asylum in the US.

And extend that offer to Orban, Fico, Farage, Abascal, Weidel and the rest of fascist scum.

Olhonestjim@lemmy.world on 05 Apr 2025 12:25 collapse

Please please don’t. You’re setting great examples by putting them in prisons. Nobody anywhere needs American fascists getting reinforcements. It’s better for everyone that they be incarcerated, banned from public office, and their wealth seized. If they can be rehabilitated, fine. Maybe. Otherwise let them rot.

Scrollone@feddit.it on 06 Apr 2025 10:02 collapse

I think we would set a better example if more people went the Mario’s brother way.

Olhonestjim@lemmy.world on 06 Apr 2025 16:18 collapse

I don’t disagree

TomasEkeli@programming.dev on 06 Apr 2025 09:33 collapse

It was not a witch hunt, it was a bitch hunt. And it succeeded.