Pentagon aggressively lobbies EU against Buy European weapons push (www.politico.eu)
from breakfastmtn@piefed.ca to world@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 08:26
https://piefed.ca/c/world/p/538343/pentagon-aggressively-lobbies-eu-against-buy-european-weapons-push

In previously unreported remarks, the U.S. administration warned Brussels that it will retaliate if Europeans “strong-arm American companies out of the market.”

U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration has threatened to retaliate against European countries if the EU favors domestic weapons-makers in a drive to rearm the continent.

The U.S. Department of Defense objected to any EU effort to limit American arms-manufacturers’ access to the European market and warned that would trigger a reciprocal response.

The administration made the previously unreported remarks in a contribution to a European Commission consultation earlier this month, after the EU’s executive branch requested feedback from governments and industry on European weapons procurement rules.

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romkube@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 08:28 next collapse

«You need to become more self reliant, and take more responsibility…» «NOOO, not like that 😭»

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 20 Feb 08:32 collapse

The “… with USA arms so buy buy buy” was always strongly suggested and the whole point of the exercise.

Damage@feddit.it on 20 Feb 13:41 collapse

“you have to spend 2% of your GPD on OUR weapons!!”

kalmosUnlisted644@jlai.lu on 20 Feb 08:55 next collapse

This should just reinforce our [!BuyFromEU@lemmy.dbzer0.com motivations as European individuals !

desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone on 20 Feb 08:59 next collapse

There are five asses to suck, get at it…lol

ThisIsDys@piefed.europe.pub on 20 Feb 09:03 next collapse

Another classic case of extortion and threats from American markets.

gressen@lemmy.zip on 20 Feb 09:10 next collapse

Expect hostile reaction if you exercise your right to free choice of suppliers. /s

Fucking bullies.

Edit: also - politico bad.

r00ty@kbin.life on 20 Feb 09:21 next collapse

So let me get this straight. From the US admin we hear.

-NATO countries cannot rely on USA to help them if they need us.
-NATO countries should be ensuring they can defend themselves.

But also
-You'd also still better buy all your shit from us!

They're like the stereotypical bully.. "Stop hitting yourself"

zaphod@sopuli.xyz on 20 Feb 10:40 collapse

It’s more like “buy more stuff, also buy it from us”.

elgordino@fedia.io on 20 Feb 10:09 next collapse

No surprise. This is why they want counties to increase their military spending. To increase the money pouring into the military industrial complex.

vratajin@piefed.social on 20 Feb 10:14 collapse

Yes.

I mean it’s great if the NATO members spend equally to their abilities, but specifically Trump wanted to get his buddies from the military industry complex to benefit, that’s why he kept bringing it up constantly, to the detriment of the alliance.

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Feb 12:05 collapse

fuck you and buy my shit

Certainly is some sort of tactic

JamieDub86@piefed.social on 20 Feb 10:39 next collapse

Lol. Isnt this just capitalism?

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 21:00 collapse

If only there was some warning…

youtu.be/cyZoUfNsUl8

collectif_imaginaire@piefed.social on 20 Feb 10:40 next collapse

Well it’s time for EU to assume our decisions and not backtrack on that question.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 10:41 collapse

Okay, but a bunch of highly paid lobbyists just showed up to bribe and browbeat us into caving immediately

lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 14:10 collapse

Hopefully voters will punish any Quisling who caves to American pressure.

bufalo1973@piefed.social on 20 Feb 11:21 next collapse

Why? To have a kill switch or an inferior grade in every advanced weapon as Trump himself said?

Typhoon@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 11:56 next collapse

Isn’t this the free market they love so much?

GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip on 20 Feb 13:19 collapse

Uhm, no. The EU specifically excluding providers based on their location is very much not the free market at work.

(They can get fucked tho, euro products all the way baby)

CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 13:25 collapse

I’d argue that the Trumps implication that the US can disable many of these weapons remotely is already a perfectly valid free market reason to not buy them, I mean who wants a back door built into your self defence apparatus?

lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 14:08 next collapse

Agreed. Trump has made it clear that Europe needs weapons primarily to defend itself from the USA.

It wasn’t Iran that threatened to invade Greenland. Wasn’t russia financing Canadian separatists and threatening to annex a Nato member.

America is a gangster state. Boycotting the USA is a free-market decision, and the ONLY rational one.

GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip on 20 Feb 18:47 collapse

Thats a free market reason not to buy them, but not what is happening. The EU arming initiative stipulates specifically that x% of the procurement must be from EU producers, no? Not free market then.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 13:35 next collapse

The usa: “Buy our stuff and there may be a tween in it for you somewhere down the line! Trust us!”

Damage@feddit.it on 20 Feb 14:01 next collapse

So it’s a tribute they want

D_C@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 16:56 next collapse

“I hate you all”, said the fat orange paedo, “but, you know, buy our weapons. And tech. And food. And films. And other things…but, remember, I hate you all. BUY OUR WEAPONS THOUGH!”

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 19:26 collapse

“Fuck you money now, now money now, or I hurt you money give, smile or hurt. We friend, more money now”

aeration1217@lemmy.org on 20 Feb 20:11 next collapse

Of course they do. There will be nothing of substance attached, but of course they do, it’s staffed by fucking imbeciles.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:56 collapse

It is way past time to put the indutrial military complex to rest. We can solve our problems without blowing each other up. At this point I suspect they are the ones manufacturing conflicts.

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 21:41 collapse

Problem with arms races is you can’t end them unless everyone agrees to end them, otherwise you just forfeit.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 21:44 collapse

I think the majority agree wars/conflicts should end. It is the monied minority keeping it going. How long will we let them pit human against each other to line their pocket books?

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 21:56 collapse

Oh I agree, but as long as they can find people to buy their weapons (even on credit that depends on successfully using them) or weild them for them, they won’t be going anywhere. And automation is quickly approaching the point where they won’t even need others to choose to fight.