Fades@lemmy.world
on 04 Dec 2023 18:03
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Sounds about right
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net
on 04 Dec 2023 21:58
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This is fucking crazy.
I’m not optimistic that Biden is going to take any kind of principled stand on this. It seems like acting moralistic was much easier when Trump was president. Once you’re in charge, actually following through on upholding “American values” appears to be a heavier lift than expected.
Edit: I think my comment was misunderstood. What I’m saying is that acting moralistic was easier for Biden when Trump was president. Biden on the campaign trail had a much more lucid vision for seeing right and wrong.
Trump is and was a shocking moraless void. That made telling right from wrong easier for elected Democrats when they could see American policy presented by someone so nakedly honest in his cruelty. Absent that, they suffer from the blinders to injustice our leaders have long worn.
Our treatment of asylum seekers and minors at the boarder is a great example. We all wore blinders to tolerate policies Obama put in place to separate families at the boarder. I admire Obama in many ways. I think it was easier for him and for us when we believed separating families was an unfortunate necessity. I didn’t even know about it. Then Trump came in and ripped away the myth. He embraced purposeful cruelty. The press showed us pictures of kids in cages. AOC visited these American concentration camps and cried.
Then Biden won. And it turned out that without Trump’s spotlight of malice, it was easier to replace the blinders than decomission the cages.
youngGoku@lemmy.world
on 06 Dec 2023 11:02
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Lol… Which morals? Grabbing them by the pussy or taking Putin, Bolsonaro, and Kim Jong-un side?
Not to mention withholding emergency aid allocated by congress for Turkey until Erdogan bends the knee for a political favor.
Oh yeah and refusing to accept defeat in election and attempting to rile up his base to overthrow the U.S. government in seditious conspiracy.
Claiming mike pence, his own VP, should be hanged?
Those morals?
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net
on 06 Dec 2023 23:34
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I think my comment was misunderstood. I clarified it.
Sloppy, but they still succeeded in whacking one guy. The troublesome thing is, they will certainly learn from their mistakes, so subsequent operations will be more sophisticated.
And there will definitely be subsequent operations. India knows that geopolitically the West needs them on-side, no matter what kind of skullduggery they get up to.
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Sounds about right
This is fucking crazy.
I’m not optimistic that Biden is going to take any kind of principled stand on this. It seems like acting moralistic was much easier when Trump was president. Once you’re in charge, actually following through on upholding “American values” appears to be a heavier lift than expected.
Edit: I think my comment was misunderstood. What I’m saying is that acting moralistic was easier for Biden when Trump was president. Biden on the campaign trail had a much more lucid vision for seeing right and wrong.
Trump is and was a shocking moraless void. That made telling right from wrong easier for elected Democrats when they could see American policy presented by someone so nakedly honest in his cruelty. Absent that, they suffer from the blinders to injustice our leaders have long worn.
Our treatment of asylum seekers and minors at the boarder is a great example. We all wore blinders to tolerate policies Obama put in place to separate families at the boarder. I admire Obama in many ways. I think it was easier for him and for us when we believed separating families was an unfortunate necessity. I didn’t even know about it. Then Trump came in and ripped away the myth. He embraced purposeful cruelty. The press showed us pictures of kids in cages. AOC visited these American concentration camps and cried.
Then Biden won. And it turned out that without Trump’s spotlight of malice, it was easier to replace the blinders than decomission the cages.
Lol… Which morals? Grabbing them by the pussy or taking Putin, Bolsonaro, and Kim Jong-un side?
Not to mention withholding emergency aid allocated by congress for Turkey until Erdogan bends the knee for a political favor.
Oh yeah and refusing to accept defeat in election and attempting to rile up his base to overthrow the U.S. government in seditious conspiracy.
Claiming mike pence, his own VP, should be hanged?
Those morals?
I think my comment was misunderstood. I clarified it.
Sloppy, but they still succeeded in whacking one guy. The troublesome thing is, they will certainly learn from their mistakes, so subsequent operations will be more sophisticated.
And there will definitely be subsequent operations. India knows that geopolitically the West needs them on-side, no matter what kind of skullduggery they get up to.