BREAKING NEWS - Israeli media reports Supreme Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, leader of Iran, was killed inside his bunker (www.maariv.co.il)
from Luriana@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 20:10
https://sh.itjust.works/post/56071291

This is a developing story. More to follow very soon.

EDIT 1

Supreme Ayatollah Khamenei was killed a few moments ago, a senior Israeli official told journalists off the record.

Footage of Khamenei’s body was allegedly presented to Prime Minister Netanyahu a few minutes ago. No official statement has been published.

EDIT 2

Videos in Farsi published on social media show some people cheering in Tehran from their apartments.

x.com/ManotoNews/status/2027835583146463736

These videos are not authentified. They could very well be true or AI.

EDIT 3

Headline of Maariv newspaper is now “Khamenei is killed”

“After decades of absolute rule, Israel confirms that the end of Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, has come”

EDIT 4

Reuters says Khamenei has been killed according to an Israeli official.

Iran DENIES the information and says Ayatollah Khamenei is fully in command.

reuters.com/…/iran-crisis-live-explosions-tehran-…

EDIT 6

Some Iranian opposition accounts are celebrating.

Association of French-Iranian women says “YES, Finally”

x.com/femmeazadi/status/2027836456119443519

Iranian Sana Ebrahimi published video of herself dancing

x.com/__Injaneb96/status/2027841112610676910

EDIT 7

Politician Pierre Poilievre, leader of the Canadian Opposition, claims Ayatollah Khamenei is killed

x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/2027845628391526774

EDIT 8

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The IDF said several Iranian leaders are killed, including the Defense Minister and Ali Shamkhani, the closest advisor of the Ayatollah

timesofisrael.com/…/idf-confirms-killing-top-iran…

EDIT 9

Iranian Researcher Khosrol Isfahani published videos of people honking in the streets on social media

x.com/KhosroIsfahani/status/2027839875500912833

EDIT 10

Donald Trump told NBC News that he feels reports about the death of Khamenei are correct.

nbcnews.com/…/trump-responds-reports-ayatollah-de…

EDIT 11

Iran International, the largest Iranian political opposition network, says Ayatollah Khamenei have been killed according to their own sources.

x.com/IranIntl_En/status/2027846843061633455

www.iranintl.com/fa/liveblog/20260228-Iranwar

EDIT 12

A french far-left politician who was questioned by police about her support for Hamas-Hezbollah just published a burning american flag. She really mad.

EDIT 13

Farnaz Fassihi, an iranian-american journalist, says she spoke on the phone with her sources in Tehran

Many people are celebrating but she says the information is NOT confirmed.

🚨 New York Times claims Trump confirms

EDIT 14

Official statement from the White House.

IT’S OVER FOLKS !!!


#world

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clot27@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 2026 20:16 next collapse

If this is true it would make IRGC even more united and furious I hope they kill netanyahu in retaliation

PunnyName@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 20:34 next collapse

And Fascist 47 while we’re at it.

BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Feb 2026 20:36 next collapse

Everything is still kind of unverified, but it sounds like they may have got a significant portion of the IRGC leadership too.

The popular voice right now seems to be the crown prince of the former Iranian monarchy.

clot27@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 2026 20:42 next collapse

that asshole can go fuck himself

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 20:57 next collapse

Basically because there’s no obvious uniting figure, so they go with somebody irrelevant and inoffensive.

The US has opened a huge can of worms they have no interest in actually managing. This is going to be Syria but bigger and in an economically significant area.

EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:38 collapse

The issue is this is all western propaganda. We can only judge by Iran’s response, and since they’re making a cohesive military counterattack by bombing US Bases, we can see the country hasn’t lost its leadership.

Trump attacking Iran is not going to go well. I believe Iran will win and the US will have wasted resources. Most importantly, the Iranians have closed the Strait of Hormuz.

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 01 Mar 2026 06:34 next collapse

We can only judge by Iran’s response, and since they’re making a cohesive military counterattack by bombing US Bases, we can see the country hasn’t lost its leadership.

Iran has not been able to do that. So far we have seen low number of missiles attacking individual bases. Anybody including Iran knows that you want to launch as many missiles as possible at the same time against a target, so air defense can not deal with all of them. They have done that in the past, but not this time.

The other part is that Iran seems to know that a good number of Arab countries have closed their air space to the US. This includes the UAE. So there being Shahed attacks against Dubai is really really stupid from a strategic point of view. The UAE could easily allow them to actually use the air space or they even have a territorial conflict over some islands. It is not like Iran could do much, if the UAE took them back right now.

cabillaud@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 14:04 collapse

How do you know they have closed the Strait? That would mean suicide for the regime.

JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz on 28 Feb 2026 20:58 collapse

How? They don’t have a powerful secret service

BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Feb 2026 20:35 next collapse

I know there were plans in the work, but I’m not sure Iran ever finalized plans for a successor.

This might be a contender for shortest war ever, it may be difficult to figure out who they’re even fighting now.

choui4@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 2026 20:39 next collapse

You dont think the Iranian government had succession plans for their 87 year old leader?

BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Feb 2026 21:07 collapse

You’d think so, but nothing concrete anyone outside the government seems to know about. Secret succession plans are obviously kinda problematic. The ones that are written down seem like they might require people who might also be dead now.

NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 2026 23:34 next collapse

Any succession plan for a dictator is a mess. That is why they are very rarely “concrete” in the sense of being formally announced.

But a significant percentage of those who would have had a claim have likely agreed already. Allegedly this was a big effort last year.

Whether the chosen successor is any better is… very questionable. But, like with any regime change, we are either looking at ramped up atrocities or a reprieve for the populace as the successor keeps their head down for a few years.

choui4@lemmy.zip on 01 Mar 2026 23:17 collapse

I think they effectively proved they are able to retaliate against the terrorist attacks by the usa, without their leader. They had a plan

RainbowHedgehog@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 20:58 next collapse

I love your username.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 21:02 next collapse

Per the CIA (I think? Someone in the West), some hardliner will step up, Iran is not defeated.

Hubi@feddit.org on 28 Feb 2026 21:10 next collapse

Khamenei has named three people last year as possible successors. There’s supposedly some sort of council that would make the final decision.

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lnxtx@sopuli.xyz on 28 Feb 2026 20:39 next collapse

As of 2026-02-28 20:39 UTC, via AP News:

JUST IN: Israeli officials tell AP that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is dead. Neither Iran nor the US have confirmed

EDIT:
As of 2026-02-28 22:02 UTC, via AP News:

Trump says that Iran’s supreme leader is dead

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 20:59 collapse

It’s not an extraordinary claim, though. It was a decapitation strike, and the sudden timing suggests they thought they had a particularly golden opportunity.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works on 28 Feb 2026 21:19 collapse

Like what, was he watching the Spring Sing at his granddaughters’ primary school?

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 21:24 collapse

Hmm, they did hit a girl’s school, didn’t they? This says he was in a bunker, though.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 20:39 next collapse

Given the viciousness and the firepower both US and Israel can bring to bare, it’s very possible they killed him.

Also possible they’re just announcing this to further domestic unrest. If Khamenei doesn’t stick his head out to announce he’s alive, it will be that much easier to flip generals or city leaders who think they’ll need to surrender in order to survive.

Videos in Farsi published on social media show some people cheering in Tehran

“We’ll be greeted as liberators”

No shortage of people in Iran who hate the Ayatollah. But it’s unlikely you’ll find folks under active bombardment feeling in the mood to cheer at any news.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 21:01 collapse

Flip to what, though?

Iran was built to be redundant, and the protest movement is just a protest movement, to date. This isn’t going to be a clean transition to a different united regime.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:21 collapse

Flip to what, though?

Reza Pahlavi appears to be the current useful idiot of the West

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 21:27 collapse

He’s about as prepared to run Iran as I am. Well, I guess he speaks the language at least. It’s not like you get one guy people don’t hate/sorta like and just plug them in, though.

Who does have organisation and some support is the IRGC and the normal military. And probably all kinds of paramilitary movements on the peripheries. If Trump was going to send in troops and occupy it on the ground, they could try to slap together a shitty government of misfits like in Iraq, but he’s not.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 28 Feb 2026 22:35 collapse

I guess he doesn’t have to have many qualifications here. He just has to be prepared to sell all their oil to their glorious liberators at discount rates.

Then if China want any oil, they’ll have to come begging to Trump for it.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Feb 2026 22:50 collapse

It’s not about qualifications, it’s about why would anybody in Iran listen to him? This is military logic, it’s not like you take out the previous guy and then everyone listens to you; you have to make them. As it is, Trump might as well declare the guy in charge of the UK. Brits would about as motivated to give up their money when it comes time to pay him taxes.

If there were American troops on the ground they could make it meaningful, but there won’t be, and an airstrike isn’t precise enough to enforce laws.

Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 20:43 next collapse

No love for this dude, but this won’t end here.

NatakuNox@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 22:19 next collapse

Not like we’ve been here before. Surly there won’t be blowback from this.

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forwhomthecattolls@sh.itjust.works on 28 Feb 2026 23:55 collapse

yeah this has never gone wrong ever

NatakuNox@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 01:46 collapse

We just killed the dude that killed the dude we put in power after killing a fourth dude. Fucking circus of circles.

perestroika@slrpnk.net on 28 Feb 2026 22:32 next collapse

War will likely continue for now, and he has nominated his successor.

However, eventually a power struggle may start (it’s not guaranteed) and then, Iranian people may get their foot between the door and force it open.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 06:37 collapse

Hopefully there’s a focused retaliation against trump and his family/holdings personally. Take him and his spawn out, do the world a favour.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 01 Mar 2026 14:11 next collapse

How fantastic would it be if elites just assassinated each other.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 12:32 collapse

Just throw them all into a thunder dome

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 14:17 collapse

Uh… they tried that already?

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 12:32 collapse

No, a global superpower has not tried to assassinate trump

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 00:13 collapse

Iran has tried to assassinate Trump.

What should some other country should try to avenge the Ayatollah on his behalf? Guy was a piece of shit, why would anyone do that?

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2026 00:44 collapse

That piece of shit had followers, this isnt over. Expect attacks within the US now, this is gonna get ugly. Im Canadian im just mad we’re gonna take fire by proxy, the ayatollah is indeed terrible, but we’re not into policing what the other side of the planet is up to. The Americans love to do that, and when their own country is a shit show it’s a joke they’re trying to take a more stance.

In the end this is all a distraction from Epstein anyways

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 01:00 collapse

There already has been a mass shooting in Texas done by someone with an “Iranian themed” shirt on.

And someone shot up an Iranian owned gym in Toronto, the owner of which was an activist against the Ayatollah. No one was there, no injuries. That guy isn’t cowering in fear of the Ayatollah, so why are you?

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 04 Mar 2026 20:35 collapse

Nobody is cowering in fear dummy. In the end the biggest terrorist nation on earth is yours. And all your colonial ancestors. Im just one of the many coloured folk you tried to genocide. All this war and madness is on every single American, every American should be considered a terrorist and a criminal. And actually that guy in the gym did flee the ayatollah so…

But in the end im kinda happy. You Americans love to bring war and murder to other nations, it’s time war came to your lands

Edit: you’re last comment refers to “the Jews” and a bunch of other horrendously racist shit, followed by homophobic comments, holy fuck dude, I think your white robes are ready at the dry cleaners. I bet you refer to black people as “the blacks”

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 07 Mar 03:32 collapse

Yeah so I’m not American. You’ve spent too much time on the internet, it’s made you hate everyone that doesn’t look like you. Maybe take a break from it? Hatred doesn’t achieve anything except destruction of yourself. Choose life over hatred.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 08 Mar 12:45 collapse

Im indigenous you racist dummy. Some of us have actually suffered from direct American terrorism. Americans have always been racist terrorists to us folk who are darker. Stop acting like the world’s hatred for America isnt justified cause it is.

You may not be American but you’re cut from the same cloth “ignore the atrocities, just enjoy life!” What a dummy

RalfWausE@feddit.org on 28 Feb 2026 20:51 next collapse

Now this will get out of control

lemmylommy@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:01 next collapse

Good riddance.

piskertariot@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:03 next collapse

Including a statement from Pierre Poilievre means that the news doesn’t matter.

If you’re going to include the opinions of people who can’t even win their own seat from countries who are across an ocean from Iran, there are plenty of others who are relevant.

rozodru@piefed.world on 28 Feb 2026 22:01 collapse

the fuck is PP giving statements for? fucker still doesn’t have security clearance. He’s got about as much knowledge on what’s really going on as I do.

empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Feb 2026 21:04 next collapse

Won’t believe until corroborated by both sides.

Hubi@feddit.org on 28 Feb 2026 21:11 next collapse

Too bad, I’m sure Assad was looking forward to meeting his new roommate.

robocall@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:16 next collapse

That was the guy that was super against developing nukes.

Good thing Israel killed him. /s

Soleos@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 06:02 collapse

Yes, the supreme leader of Iran stated he was opposed to developing nuclear weapons in 2003. The supreme leader then did not proceed to authorize two decades of an Iranian nuclear weapons program, a nuclear weapons program the West has not been negotiating about with Iran under his supreme leadership, a nuclear weapons program which was not bombed out last year, because of course it didn’t exist. /Sarcasm

robocall@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 09:10 collapse

having nuclear technology and nuclear enrichment is not the same thing as a nuclear weapons program. This comment sounds like Netanyahu. What are the chances Israel has nuclear weapons?

TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:17 next collapse

So will the US and Israel wait and see what ends up filling the power vacuum they just created or will they just go right to installing a new, pro US/Israel regime themselves?

frongt@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 2026 22:42 collapse

They’re going to restore the Pahlavis.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 21:24 next collapse

I’m glad he’s dead, I’m sad how it happened. Foreign bombs against a religious and political leader don’t make for a stable transition of power, they result in decades of war between rebels in the mountains and whoever controls the cities.

Nomad@infosec.pub on 03 Mar 2026 05:45 collapse

Yeah nothing would be different of they just took him like Maduro and just took him to an island well off the coast of the us and put him out to pasture. Just drop a box of food every so often and make sure he stays there and no visits other than close family. No need for the killing and setting a perfect example how not to drop down to the same level as him.

Let him pray the day away for the rest of his life without hurting anybody.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2026 12:11 collapse

I was thinking more the full Wilhelm. A perfectly acceptable safe life where he never has to work again but with no political power ever again. Is it fair? Fuck no. But it respects national sovereignty and it works to establish a norm that tyrants can safely step down if they create a democratic republic before it turns into a war. After? Well, then you have to negotiate for your life. You have to give them an opportunity out. I hate tyranny more than tyrants.

Luriana@sh.itjust.works on 28 Feb 2026 22:01 next collapse

Personal opinion

He was instrumental in helping Bachar El Assad massacre Syrians after the 2011 Arab Spring. The Iranian military saved Bachar by slaughtering countless

He was the daddy of Hezbollah. Hezbollah assasinated countless Lebanese politicians who spoke out against the group. Khamenei urged Hezbollah to trigger two major wars against Israel (2006, 2023). The overwhelming majority of Lebanese DID NOT want these wars. The response was absolutely devastating for ordinary lebanese. Khamenei was laughing from Tehran while Lebanese paid the price.

He was an enemy of the Ukrainian people. At the beginning of the Ukraine invasion, he gave thousands of drones to Vladimir Poutine. Drones are used to bomb Ukrainian cities

And perhaps the most sadly, he was an enemy of the Iranian people. His men slaughtered countless Iranian protesters. As for the survivors, they were tortured and raped.

theconversation.com/how-irans-government-has-weap…

www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde13/7480/2023/en/

That dude was just evil. If anyone had it coming, it was him.

Let’s hope that this bloody war ends now.

PlaidBaron@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 22:28 next collapse

“Lets hope this bloody war ends now.”

Hahahahahahah. No chance.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 16:33 collapse

Hell no, we still got more ordinance that is expiring.

Aqarius@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 06:33 collapse

Hezbollah

I… think you’re mixing him up with the other guy. Hesbollah have been around since before he was in charge.

krashmo@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 22:04 next collapse

“The bombings will continue until peace is achieved” is one of the craziest things I’ve ever heard Trump say, and that is saying a lot

LumberjackRanger@leminal.space on 01 Mar 2026 00:10 next collapse

“I’m going going to keep punching you until you stop saying ouch.”

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 14:19 collapse

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

twinnie@feddit.uk on 28 Feb 2026 22:14 next collapse

I was hoping to see the Iranians throw him off a balcony but this is good enough.

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 28 Feb 2026 22:18 next collapse

The thing about precedent is that it sets a precedent.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 28 Feb 2026 22:33 next collapse

I’m sure there will be a quick and peaceful transfer of power to a completely democratic leadership and no civilian casualties whatsoever.

Ulvain@sh.itjust.works on 28 Feb 2026 23:33 next collapse

…" And the daydreaming ends. And you realize with your dick in your hand that you’re in the bottom of an empty well.

cabillaud@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 14:07 collapse

You forgot Iranian people handing flowers to the US military :)

TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 2026 23:23 next collapse

Anyone celebrating this, you HAVE to understand that the US and Israel did NOT do this because it was what the Iranian people wanted, they did it because it was what THEY want. Whether this will actually be good or bad for the Iranian people makes absolutely no difference to the US and Israel. They don’t care about the Iranian people, they don’t respect the Iranian people. This was a selfish act on the part of the US and Israel, not a selfless one.

belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Mar 2026 00:20 next collapse

I fully understand this, yet I am happy about Khamenei getting blown to bits. Now we just have to do the same thing to Trump and Bibi ^^

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 00:28 next collapse

Khamenei was a monster. It doesn’t matter how or why he’s dead. Good riddance, may he burn in hell for an eternity.

It doesn’t matter whether a monster is killed by someone with noble intentions or a monster is killed by another monster. Either way there’s one less monster in the world.

TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 00:56 next collapse

It doesn’t matter whether a monster is killed by someone with noble intentions or a monster is killed by another monster.

It does matter. It matters. And it’s so, so important that people understand that it matters. This attitude of, “the ends justify the means,” is very dangerous. The Iranian nation has had their autonomy taken away from them, first by Khamenei and now by the US and Israel. They are powerless, subject to the whims of people more powerful than them. They don’t make their own decisions about their own nation, the decisions are made for them by people who have enough guns and strongmen to impose their will on them.

Edit: think of it like this: let’s say you’re living down the street from a family with an abusive father. The guy is just cruel to his wife and kids. So one day you decide to take matters into your own hands and you go and shoot the dad dead. That’s good, right? The cruel, abusive father is dead, so it’s good and justified, right? But you didn’t ask the wife or the kids if they wanted their father to be killed. You didn’t care what they wanted, because you didn’t do it for them. You did it for you. You did it because it was what YOU wanted. And if they get mad at you for it, you say oh they’re just ingrates. They don’t appreciate what I did for THEM. But, it wasn’t for them. It was never for them. It was for you.

Edit 2: so what would the alternative be? What could we do to stop this cruel father that doesn’t require us to take matters into our own hands? Law. We need the rule of law. What would any reasonable person in a modern society do in this situation? They’d call the police. That’s what we need: the rule of law. Not countries deciding unilaterally who lives and who dies, but laws. Laws that apply to all of us, equally.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 00:48 collapse

The Iranian nation has had their autonomy taken away from them, first by Khamenei and now by the US and Israel.

Are you saying they got their autonomy back in the last month after that asshole executed 30,000 people? Pretty sure they didn’t have autonomy for quite a few decades now. They have slim chance to take it back. The odds are the IRGC will hold onto control, but it’s ridiculous to imply they somehow lost autonomy twice. You either got it or you don’t and with the IRGC around they don’t have autonomy.

In you’re little analogy is the abusive dad always saying he wants to kill me and was handing out guns to people in the neighbourhood, telling them to take shots at me, which resulted in one of my kids getting killed? Then the abusive dad starts putting together a bazooka, all the while saying he’s going to kill me?

Your analogy kinda sucks. The abusive person is up to all kinds of shit in the neighbourhood and gets himself killed. If he was abusing his family and not going out into the neighbourhood and causing shit, he probably wouldn’t have gotten killed. But he’d still be a shitbag.

The wife and kids may or may not be upset by him getting killed, but I wouldn’t expect anyone in the neighbourhood to stick up for an abuser like you currently seem to be doing. Very bizarre to attempt of some analogy to be all “think of the children” over a guy that was such a terrible person.

TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2026 02:39 collapse

Pretty sure they didn’t have autonomy for quite a few decades now.

That’s true. The Iranian nation hasn’t had its own autonomy for some time. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise.

In you’re little analogy is the abusive dad always saying he wants to kill me and was handing out guns to people in the neighbourhood, telling them to take shots at me, which resulted in one of my kids getting killed? Then the abusive dad starts putting together a bazooka, all the while saying he’s going to kill me?

I mean, if you want to expand the analogy, let’s talk about how the neighborhood vigilante has been interfering in the affairs of the family of the abusive father, long before the abusive father was even in power. Like in 1951 when the family’s parliament voted to nationalize their oil industry and as a result the vigilante and his old friend helped carry out a coup of the family’s democratically elected prime minister (operation Ajax), and replaced him with an autocrat. Or in 1980 when the vigilante aided another abusive dad, a fella by the name of Saddam Hussein, in his invasion of the home of the abusive father and his family. An invasion and war that resulted in half a million deaths, and that Hussein guy using chemical weapons against the poor family.

It’s dishonest to talk only of the crimes of the abusive father but not acknowledge the crimes of vigilante. And that’s the thing about vigilantism: answering crimes with crimes is not a viable or moral solution. It’s lawlessness and chaos, and a self perpetuating cycle of violence.

Very bizarre to attempt of some analogy to be all “think of the children” over a guy that was such a terrible person.

Well, that terrible person is dead. Now what? You gonna take care of those kids? Or are you just going to wait until another abusive father comes and takes the places of the one you just killed?

arrow74@lemmy.zip on 01 Mar 2026 01:13 next collapse

I’m glad he’s dead, but the fear is that this creates an even worse situation.

Attempts to remove a dictator by force are usually not possible without a lengthy occupation. There’s no new government or leaders ready to form a new government that is better for the Iranian people. An occupation is also unlikely to have good results. This isn’t reforming Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, this is something else entirely. I would expect the people of Iran to not respond well to aggressors occupying their country. This is at best Afghanistan 2, but likely worse

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 14:09 collapse

For sure. It seems the thinking is the Iranian people might rise up and overthrow the regime. But that’s just throwing a dice and hoping for the best. A month ago that could have happened, but the regime has already machine gunned down so many people and executed so many more, that is that going to happen now? A lot of things would have to line up for that kind of thing to work and it’s impossible to make a movement among a population work like a military operation.

Something that seems to have gotten lost in this is the fact that Iran was enriching uranium. The Uranium Iran gets from Russia is already enriched by Russia to the level suitable to be used in their nuclear reactor. People seem to discount the Uranium enrichment as propaganda (because of the lies of W Bush) but this is science. They were enriching Uranium to 60%, if they continued you’d be in a situation where a country that calls the US “the Great Satan” and has officially said they want to “wipe Israel off the map” could have nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.

All things considered, it would have been best to have continued the agreement Obama made with Iran. The reports from IAEA indicated they were abiding by that agreement. But Trump cancelled that in his first term, which made this war all but inevitable. There is truth to the statement that we can’t have a fundamentalist regime whose goal is to be an existential threat to other counties be in the possession of nuclear weapons. What Trump doesn’t say is he cancelled the agreement that was preventing that before. Iran was unlikely to sign onto a new agreement (at least not in good faith) after Trump cancelled the old one and assassinated their top general. Trump did all of the acts of war in his first term, and only now is having the actual war.

Given the mess Trump created in hist first term, he painted himself into a corner and this war was the most likely outcome. So now there’s nothing to do but wait and see what happens next. I hope for the best for the Iranian people even though it would be a big political win for Trump if it does work out.

arrow74@lemmy.zip on 01 Mar 2026 14:14 collapse

Tbh, any nation that doesn’t have nuclear weapons should be rushing to make them. after what we saw in Ukraine and well Iran this week.

Ultimately your country can be taken over whenever by whoever unless you have nuclear weapons. That’s the way our world is now. Might = Right.

I hate it but it’s where we are now

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 03:45 collapse

Well yeah, the Iran nuclear program started when W. Bush did his axis of evil speech naming off a hit list of countries the US would be going after… Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.

But none of that negates the fact that Iran was developing nuclear weapons while stating many times their goal was to be an existential threat to another country.

Maybe if you’re making nukes don’t go on and on about how you’re going to destroy another country while doing so? If you do that, you shouldn’t be all that shocked when that country starts bombing you. The actions of the Iranian regime were really nuts when you think about it.

arrow74@lemmy.zip on 02 Mar 2026 11:44 collapse

So wait let me get this straight. The US threatened Iran’s right to exist, Iran begins to develop nuclear weapons, and now they’re the bad guy for threatening the US’s right to exist. The very country that threatened them first

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 00:10 collapse

There are no good guys and bad guys. That’s a child’s understanding of the world.

Iran was building nukes while threatening countries that have the capability of bombing them. The Iranian regime made a major miscalculation there, it’s painfully obvious to anyone that can think strategically at all. They’re incompetent, which happens when you have hateful religious zealots running a country.

They also happen to be evil as demonstrated by the fact they executed people by the tens of thousands in the last month. I’m not sad the Ayatollah is dead. May he burn in hell.

arrow74@lemmy.zip on 03 Mar 2026 00:37 collapse

If you’d refer to my first comment in this chain you’d see this comment wasn’t necessary

I’m glad he’s dead, but the fear is that this creates an even worse situation.

Just fishing for an argument rest of the conversation be damned

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 04:04 collapse

What would be a worse situation than someone saying they want to destroy other countries while building nuclear weapons?

And you seem to be ignoring them massacring people by the tens of thousands. If you have the stomach for it maybe read a little bit about what happened in Iran in the last few months.

Or is it because Trump might not really care about it that means you don’t care about it either? What kind of logic is that?

Why is it you see Iranians on the streets with both the pre-republic Iranian flag along with the Israeli flag? Do you think they’re so naive that they don’t know anything about Israel or Gaza? Have you considered that what they’re going through has made them so desperate they will accept help from any country with the willingness to overthrow the Ayatollah?

Just because you’re not seeing imagery of the atrocities the Iranian government has done, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Piles of bodies on the streets 30,000 people executed in a 48 hour period and you’re talking about “well things could be worse!”

Maybe you hate Trump and Netanyahu, but do you have no empathy for the Iranians killed by the Ayatollah’s regime?

arrow74@lemmy.zip on 03 Mar 2026 04:15 collapse

Right you didn’t have an issue with that statement yesterday, and now you’re making some wild assumptions and accusations about my beliefs in an attempt to further fish for an argument.

Anyway I also addressed many of you points yesterday. Here I can quote it again since you forgot.

Attempts to remove a dictator by force are usually not possible without a lengthy occupation. There’s no new government or leaders ready to form a new government that is better for the Iranian people. An occupation is also unlikely to have good results. This isn’t reforming Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, this is something else entirely. I would expect the people of Iran to not respond well to aggressors occupying their country. This is at best Afghanistan 2, but likely worse

I think this sums up my fears well. I don’t think the United States should be sending people to die, or bombing schools, to end this regime. Odds are based on the US track record it will be ineffective or worse for the Iranian people. The US has a record of replacing a dictator with even worse US friendly dictators. Not to mention if the regime doesn’t fall this will be a bloody campaign, the bombs alone can easily kill more than 30,000 Iranians.

Sorry I don’t want my country to play world police anymore. We’re bad at it, it’s expensive, and too many people die every time

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 05:24 collapse

Since yesterday, I may have spent some time listening to what Iranian people have to say about the subject. You’re assumption about it being like Afghanistan 2 is completely off.

The US has a record of replacing a dictator with even worse US friendly dictators. Not to mention if the regime doesn’t fall this will be a bloody campaign, the bombs alone can easily kill more than 30,000 Iranians.

The Israel-Hamas war lasted more than two years. Iran’s government killed about half the number killed in a two years long war in just two days. But you didn’t see too many photos of it so you pretend that a bombing campaign is going to be worse.

Why do you care so little about Iranians? If Israel killed 30,000 Palestinians in just two days would you still be “meh, don’t care, not my problem”?

phx@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 02:17 collapse

We don’t need to mourn the monster killed by monsters, but we SHOULD remember that even in this short time many innocents have also been killed in the process.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 13:16 collapse

We should also remember the many many many innocents killed by the monster that now lays dead.

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 00:40 next collapse

Who the fuck cares, Iranians finally got justice after decades of abuse and poverty

m0darn@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 00:48 next collapse

The Iranians have not gotten justice. I don’t need convincing that he was a bad dude, but his death doesn’t cement freedom, and imo the attacks reduce stability and prosperity for Iranians.

thoro@lemmy.ml on 01 Mar 2026 01:10 next collapse

Libya should demonstrate that things can in fact get worse

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 01 Mar 2026 01:38 collapse

Look to Libya and Afghanistan, they did not get better

Danitos@reddthat.com on 01 Mar 2026 00:45 next collapse

The same thing with people cheering on Maduro’s capture. People don’t care this is not a selfless act, they simply hope things finally start to get better.

sirscooter@lemmy.zip on 01 Mar 2026 01:08 next collapse

I’m hoping the Iranian people can come out of this a better country. But you are totally correct in that the US did this for the oil not the people.

in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Mar 2026 04:32 next collapse

So long as the new governance is approved by Israel and The West. They better not try to democratically elect a leftist or socialist otherwise they’re gonna get a Western backed dictator forced on them instead.

biofaust@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 09:16 collapse

Gas, mostly.

raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 01:58 next collapse

I can’t believe there are people dumb enough that this needs to be pointed out, but yes, a thousand times yes. Upvote for visibility.

Gorilladrums@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 03:40 next collapse

I think this is obvious. We’re talking about a geopolitical war here. All the parties are looking exclusively looking to advance their own interests. That being said, I think we can criticize Israel and the US for attacking Iran for the way that they did, but also celebrate the deaths of this evil bastard as well as stand with the Iranian people who want their country back.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 04:13 next collapse

Both can be true and the act does not need to be selfless to be good.

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 01 Mar 2026 05:49 next collapse

I know that Trump did do this for himself.

On the other hand, the Mullah dictatorship murdered Thousand of protesters during the last months, so they can get fcked!!!

SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml on 01 Mar 2026 15:38 next collapse

Furthermore, even if you, perhaps understandably, aren’t a big fan of the concept of a Theocratic supreme leader, your personal feelings on that fact are really beside the point.

For better or worse, Iran has been the one of only countries on the world stage to materially support Palestinian resistance, and opposed Israeli expansionism.

You can’t support the Palestinian cause and cheer on this war/the death of the Ayatollah. Certainly not before there’s a free and unified Palestine, anyway.

lechekaflan@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 18:26 collapse

they did it because it was what THEY want

  1. Oil. Iran is said to be producing the same amount as Iraq.
  2. Ensure that Yahoo would then expel all those are potential threats to his lebensraum plan. Yeah, Yahoo’s Israel is what North Korea is for Russia: the mouse that roars.
  3. Make the Christofascist supporters happy as if this offensive action is “the mandate of God”.

Now and infuriatingly Trump has achieved infamy as the worst generator of anxiety in history.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Mar 2026 00:04 next collapse

Say goodbye to a few trillion $ and any hope of a future for a few generations

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Siegfried@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 00:50 next collapse

That thing on the back has some serious MW2/3 MP vibes

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 01 Mar 2026 01:40 collapse

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in; but power always finds a place to rest its head.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 01 Mar 2026 01:42 collapse

The US just killed the leader of an entire branch of Muslims, what do they think is gonna happen

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 01:59 next collapse

they’re going back to work on Monday just like most Americans would.

right??

Gorilladrums@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 03:50 collapse

This is not true. Shia islam does NOT have a leader. It’s not like Catholicism, there’s no pope or equivalent position. Shia islam, like sunni islam, is entirely based around scriptures. The Iranian supreme leaders gave themselves the title of ayatollah to give themselves religious legitimacy, as their revolution is a religious on. However, that makes their religious title more political than religious. The vast majority of shias inside Iran, let alone around the world, don’t recognize him as the leader of the religion.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 01 Mar 2026 04:47 collapse

It doesn’t take the vast majority to cause major problems

Gorilladrums@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 16:23 collapse

Sure, but that doesn’t change the fact the supreme leader of the Iranian regime is not the religious leader of shia islam

breakfastmtn@piefed.ca on 01 Mar 2026 01:42 next collapse

Iran confirms:

Iranian state media announced early on Sunday that Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was killed. “To Allah we belong and to Him we shall return,” the news agency said. He died after U.S. and Israeli military strikes on Iran on Saturday.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/02/28/world/iran-strikes-trump/02e753fe-8b30-5272-b383-56b1659d6491?smid=url-share

Edit: Also a whole bunch of his family.

The deaths of the daughter, son-in-law and grandson of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, were confirmed, according to Iran’s semiofficial Fars News Agency on Sunday morning in Iran. One of his daughters-in-law was also killed, the news agency said.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/02/28/world/iran-strikes-trump/18b01a1c-c503-57bf-9436-38ffeaa15889?smid=url-share

duncan_bayne@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 02:00 next collapse

There had to be one upside to all the horrors.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 04:13 next collapse

Nice. Every time a dictator dies I celebrate - simple.

ieGod@lemmy.zip on 01 Mar 2026 04:59 next collapse

Can’t wait until trump is eliminated.

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net on 01 Mar 2026 05:27 next collapse

OK now who are we installing next to come back to murder in 2050?

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 14:13 collapse

Do you think the Ayatollah was installed by the US?

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net on 01 Mar 2026 15:42 next collapse

Do you think that asking a simpleton gotcha question absent any further explication isn’t a contrarian and socially erosive rhetorical tack which suggests in context that you’d implicitly support any mass murdering sovereign incursion by the US so long they’ve convinced you that their target is a bad dude?

Cause it sure comes across that way, even if that’s not the case. And yes, I’m aware that their ayatollah was a revolutionary replacement of our shah.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 03:33 collapse

If you want more than a simpleton reply, then you should refrain from making simpleton comments.

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net on 02 Mar 2026 17:19 collapse

You have complete agency over your own toxicity.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 03 Mar 2026 00:04 collapse

If you think calling someone a simpleton is toxic, maybe you should refrain from calling other people a simpleton.

Railing5132@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 16:57 collapse

Our interventionist actions (to undermine a thriving, rather progressive country, in terms of the Middle East) directly led to Komeheni’s rule and the imposition of shiara law.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 03:17 collapse

You’re talking about shit that happened before I was born and I’m guessing before you were born too. At a certain point people aren’t reacting to what an asshole did to them, they’re being assholes on their own. If you’re being a reactionary to something that happened before you were born, you’re just using history books as an excuse to be an asshole.

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 01 Mar 2026 05:47 next collapse

Celebration day for the exile Iran people living in my country… They were quite active during the last weeks and months.

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 01 Mar 2026 08:41 next collapse

If only countries targeted only the politicians and avoided killing civillians.

mrl1@jlai.lu on 01 Mar 2026 09:29 next collapse

Why is OP mentioning Rima Hassan though? French left has been criticizing every international interference illegal in regards to NATO directives.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Mar 2026 15:09 next collapse

Pedo empire doing what it does.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 2026 15:25 next collapse

Good outcome, still illegal as fuck.

AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works on 01 Mar 2026 16:32 next collapse

And of course the Trump administration/CIA already has his replacement lined up, and ready to install just like they did in Venezuela.

Who is Reza Pahlavi? A royal in exile, Iran’s youngest pilot, and a potential successor after Khamenei’s death

A good outcome would be if we could just get rid of all authoritarians instead of being offered this fucked up scale of “how evil is your authoritarian leader,” based on raw number of protestors murdered, unfair elections, and unjustified detentions (so far).

Instead, we’re supposed to be dumb enough to believe rank on this fucked up scale “justifies” another authoritarian overthrowing a regime with zero notice to their own government and completely ignoring rules of procedure, in the name of “freedom and democracy.” Oh, and they do it in the same week we found out they’re putting together an executive order to cancel our upcoming elections that could possibly take down their regime…

It’s like having two families, each with their own mentally unstable and abusive parent, (plus your parent’s dickhead boyfriend and all of his kids he’s doing a shitty job of parenting). Your shitty parent gets in a fight with another shitty parent over who is the worse parent. Then your parent and their dickhead boyfriend, murder the other parent in front of you and all the other kids. Clearly, they have absolutely no intention of doing anything to actually help the kids of the parent they just murdered, and are planning to loot their pockets after murdering them.

But for some reason, we (as in all the kids that just witnessed exactly what happen) shouldn’t worry about what comes next, because our “rockstar” parent has already arranged for “some guy” to take the kids in the other family, whether they like it or not. You know, because “democracy.”

We’re supposed to pretend from this day forward, that our collective memory of watching our insane narcissistic parent murdering somebody with their shady boyfriend Israel, after months of hearing them threaten to do it, is that our parent was the good guy who just did what needed to be done.

Because if we don’t pretend they’re a fucking hero, our insane authoritarian parent will give us something to cry about.

BlackAura@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 16:56 collapse

The funny thing I’ve been reading / seeing is that the paralympics are still ongoing.

The Olympic truce says no one will start a war during the 7 days before the Olympics and for 7 days after the Paralympics finish.

The US and Israel should be banned by the IOC from competing at the 2028 Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games (even though the host country is the US).

It won’t happen though.

Krauerking@lemy.lol on 01 Mar 2026 15:55 next collapse

When we have a president who isn’t smart enough to consider politics and wants to “do something”

We are about to see how much might the USA’s military industrial complex has. We are up to kidnapped and sniped in a bunker for country leaders.

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 01 Mar 2026 18:08 next collapse

“one of the most evil people in history is dead” says the pedophile president.

LittleBorat3@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 2026 19:00 next collapse

Could they kill Putin inside his bunker? Would be nice 👍

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 04:12 next collapse

Wtf has happened.

The internet has become much worse. Iran is the most important thing happening. But take reddit for example. There seems to be a moderation effort to eliminate multiple discussions and funnel everyone and everything into these single chats. Does that bother anyone else?

Back in the day there would be multiple discussions so many views and opinions. Multiple conversations created momentum and insight. Each iteration improved on the last with information and then there was a single thread that could link to multiple threads. It now seems like that’s all gone. Everything is sanitized. I scrolled through some homepages even here on lemmy and it’s like

lame joke,

cat posts,

dumb meme,

angry post about Hollywood,

ww3 breaking out mega thread,

cat video,

trumps a butt head,

video game

video game.

Is this our world now. The most important thing is moderated into a drawer so we can get back to the paying a cat tax and being silly guys. What the fuck is going on. I feel like I’m losing my god damn mind.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 12:48 next collapse

You need to take some time away from online activities and stop taking the internet seriously. The Internet is not serious.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 13:30 next collapse

Saying the internet, the one technology that has the potential to spread education, spread information, transform human discourse, the way we approach politics, and generally push human civilization forward, was driven to state where it should not be taken seriously is not as reassuring as you may believe it to be.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 14:54 collapse

the one technology that has the potential to spread education, spread information, transform human discourse

JFC… This isn’t Apple in 1985, that idea failed.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 18:33 collapse

that idea failed

Yes. That’s the depressing part.

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2026 20:51 collapse

We have hit an inflection point where what you said is the crazy out of touch opinion, not mine.

sturmblast@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 13:15 collapse

You aren’t alone, but yeah, take a break

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2026 20:53 collapse

I did. For a while it only got worse and seems like the leftist i was a part of have become just really pitiful sad lumps. Like they really focused on “cat playing piano” part of the internet but ignored the rest. The rest was too confrontational for them. The leftist i left were watching liveleak videos and laughing their asses off.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 13:12 next collapse

The USA wants them to go back to the Shah 2.0. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

davepleasebehave@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 13:35 next collapse

in Brussels there was a small gathering of people with Iranian flags and Israeli flags and pictures of the shah.

Feels a bit astroturfed to me, can’t prove it though.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 2026 14:53 collapse

Exactly what the Iranians in Tehranto want. These people fled Iran with stolen billions and they want to restore the elites to Iran. They had a huge march last month chanting “King Pahlavi”, so they do not want a democracy, they want to replace one oppressive government with another.

Formfiller@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 2026 15:34 collapse

The guy who raped and killed children and possibly ate babies with his besties Jefferey Epstein and Ghisline Maxwell said that the Ayatollah was one of the most evil men in history? I’m skeptical