Mark Carney says Alberta is 'essential' to Canada as province plans vote on separation (www.bbc.com)
from Valuy@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 23 May 11:59
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atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 23 May 12:25 next collapse

Wow. I had no idea so many Canadians wanted to do something so stupid.

Smoogs@lemmy.world on 23 May 12:53 next collapse

I wouldn’t say so many so much as a loud group of idiot assholes.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 23 May 13:13 collapse

A petition calling for separation recently gathered more than 300,000 signatures - enough needed to trigger a vote.

Windex007@lemmy.world on 23 May 15:01 next collapse

Worth noting that the ab government interceded to lower the threshold. Also that polling puts “leave” at low 20%. Also worth noting that “leave” support is actually declining as the months go by. Also worth noting that when pollsters ask a follow-up question (do you still support leaving if that means AB becomes responsible for its own defense, currency, passports, border control, etc etc etc) support drops to mid 10%. Incidentally, support from greenlanders joining the US when Trump said he needed Greenland was also mid 10%.

Polling shows that once push comes to shove, about as many albertans seriously support indepence as greenlanders want to be annexed by the USA.

Is it serious? Yes, in the sense that predatory bad-faith politics is serious. Foreign actors attempting to apply pressure on Canadian politics is very serious.

Is it serious in the sense of “is the idea of leaving Canada something that Albertans seriously support?”, no.

frongt@lemmy.zip on 23 May 16:47 collapse

Yeah. Even having enough petition signatures to go to a vote doesn’t mean much. A lot of those signatures will be “I don’t think we should, but let’s put it to a vote”.

Smoogs@lemmy.world on 23 May 15:54 collapse

“O Canada!
Our home and native land!”

it’s native land. It’s in the song in the first line as a constant reminder for these fuck wits to never forget.

PP_BOY_@lemmy.world on 23 May 13:26 collapse

Kremlin propaganda is one hell of a drug

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 May 14:24 next collapse

The separatist mouvement started before Russia was created.

Historical_General@lemmy.world on 23 May 16:38 collapse

Damn you Putin

OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip on 23 May 16:29 collapse

So they’re voting to become a landlocked country fully dependent on two other countries for access to the sea, airspace, and all goods and services?

At least with Brexit there was a history and precedent for the UK as a viable independent economy, how exactly would Alberta function?

The only way this would make any sense is if they were planning to collude with Trump to become the 51st state…

frongt@lemmy.zip on 23 May 16:48 collapse

If admitted. It’s gonna be real funny (sad) if they vote to leave and the US just ignores them.