Israeli source of "executed children" lie admits story was untrue
(electronicintifada.net)
from juicy@lemmy.today to world@lemmy.world on 27 Mar 2024 13:38
https://lemmy.today/post/8546263
from juicy@lemmy.today to world@lemmy.world on 27 Mar 2024 13:38
https://lemmy.today/post/8546263
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Everyone knew it was bullshit when they claimed it, but even now that it’s admitted to be false, it’s not going to have any effect on governments support of their genocide in Gaza.
The propaganda isn’t for the leaders of other countries, it’s so the voters in those countries don’t replace the leaders for funding genocides.
I’d like to think no leader of a country is really dumb enough to still be believing any claims made by the Israeli government, but it’s hard to tell these days
It can have effects on public sentiment which can influence leadership’s behavior. I would argue this has already happened to a notable degree.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/electronic-intifada/
washingtonpost.com/…/biden-yet-again-says-hamas-b…
This isn’t breaking news, we’ve known it was false almost immediately.
I do agree it’s not productive to post a source as obviously biased as OP’s tho. No one is going to listen to that site except people that agree with it solely because of the name.
Reporting genocide is a bias now. Highly suggest reading Lewis Raven Wallace’s book A View From Somewhere. It discusses how “objective journalism” silences marginalized voices and forces those writers to “see both sides” of their material reality. Media Bias metric sites are not without their own inherent bias towards the status quo. Everything is political. Including being “unbiased”. Electronic Intifada is reporting from Gaza about Gazans, they are doing great work.
It's a stupid story anyway because there's enough atrocities committed by hamas that we have clear evidence of. No reason to just parrot what Netanyahu says, who clearly tries to hyperbolically one-up stories to justify his actions. It just gives the hamas apologists some sort of "gotcha" moment.
Are there Israeli claims older than 3 months that haven’t already been disproven?
Because Biden is literally still talking about this one and others that have been disproven.
So it’s pretty disappointing if he’s doing that while there’s actual evidence for other claims.
No idea. I don't really follow this much, especially not what either side claims. I've seen both do absolute heinous acts. I'm just sick and tired of people defending those atrocities because of some sort of tribalism towards their team, or against the other team.
Well, you might want to stop acting like there’s mountains of evidence if you’re self admittedly ignorant of any factual evidence…
That’s the point of “gish gallop” propaganda like Israel is using. They make a shit ton of claims that will eventually turn out to be proven false. But they’re counting on people who don’t stay informed to “feel” like there’s so much evidence some of it has to be true and not stay up to date on all the follow ups that each piece isn’t
I have eyes my dude. Just because I don't take either sides propaganda for granted doesn't mean I am ignorant about the topic. If you don't believe that hamas brutally attacked, tortured, raped, murdered and beheaded innocent civilians then you're a tool.
I’m confused, do you mean you’ve been in Gaza the last 6 months?
Or did your eyes see videos/articles, but you don’t follow the news enough to know when they turn out to be false? Where are you even seeing that stuff in the first place?
It sounds like you ignore actual journalism and just go off of social media…
What are your eyes seeing exactly that you can’t share with the class so it can be easily disproven?
And what’s the point of you just replying over and over saying there’s evidence but you just can’t show anyone?
How is that different than what Rudy Giuliani and the Pillow Crackhead have been doing the last couple years?
My dude, if you have to make shit up about things I allegedly said then at least don't go onto some rambling tantrum about all the other things I allegedly did or didn't do. It just makes you look like you have to push an agenda.
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Am I the one claiming mountains of evidence exist but refusing to ever link anything?
You’re making claims that evidence is all over and readily available, but instead of linking it, you just want to keep hurling insults.
Just link it bro.
The longer this goes on, the less likely anyone is to believe “your eyes”.
Seriously, when the best analogies for your actions is Rudy Giuliani, it’s time for some introspection
They had one false claim. I mean usually you'd expect 0 but MBFC's bias is very obvious here and in other cases. It's one guy's personal project why do we take it so seriously?
BTW from MBFC
It's not just about false claims but also general bias. And calling Biden a white supremacist is also a false claim and stupidly biased, to the point of just being ridiculous. No sane person is going to take you seriously with such a rhetoric.
I'm talking about the factuality rating. I have issues with their bias system as well, but not in this case.
Edit: Good point about the white supremacy part, though I do think it's passable-ish for an opinion piece. Also I went to fact check their fact check and
MBFC is just shoddy work all around, and from what I've seen leans slightly conservative and pro-Israel, if not directly then through its reliance on sources like the ADL.